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BarryK
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Nov 2012, 14:43    Post_subject:  Precise Puppy 5.4.3
Sub_title: Bug-fix upgrade of 5.4.2, released Dec. 17, 2012
 

Precise Puppy 5.4.3

Here is my blog announcement:
http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00070

Forum feedback starts on page 13 of this thread:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=671888#671888

Precise Puppy 5.4.2

Here is my blog announcement:
http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00049

Forum feedback in this thread starts here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=668041#668041

Precise Puppy 5.4.1
Here is my blog announcement:
http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00023

There is also a "retro" build, for those who have PAE-incapable CPUs:
http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00024

I have started this thread for feedback, and will monitor it for a little while, in case any serious bug got through.

However, longer term, working toward a next release, is up to members of the Puppy community. I will not be coordinating further releases.

For reference, the Forum feedback thread for Precise 5.4 and 5.4.1beta1 is here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=81672

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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Nov 2012, 16:04    Post_subject:  

Quick frugal install on my main Athlon XP box. No problems yet.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Precise Puppy, version 5.4.1

Chip description:
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

Driver used by Xorg:
vesa

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
1470 frames in 5.0 seconds = 293.947 FPS
2050 frames in 5.0 seconds = 409.747 FPS
2135 frames in 5.0 seconds = 426.899 FPS
2125 frames in 5.0 seconds = 424.629 FPS
2086 frames in 5.0 seconds = 417.098 FPS

Actually using "nouveau".

So, one little problem with misidentifying the video driver in use. Smile

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1034MB (164MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Fri 09 Nov 2012 02:04:46 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI nv18 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235
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James C


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Posts: 5972
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Fri 09 Nov 2012, 17:21    Post_subject:  

Precise 5.4.1 multi-session dvd on a bit newer hardware.No problems.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Precise Puppy, version 5.4.1

Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: MCP61 - mcp61-86 Chip Rev

Driver used by Xorg:
vesa

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
nvfx_screen_get_param:95 - Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 30
nvfx_screen_get_param:95 - Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 30
nvfx_screen_get_param:95 - Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 55
nvfx_screen_get_param:95 - Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 56
nvfx_screen_get_param:95 - Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 59
nvfx_screen_get_param:95 - Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 58
nvfx_screen_get_param:95 - Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 30
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
5366 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1073.077 FPS
6050 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1209.983 FPS
6059 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1211.682 FPS
6044 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1208.678 FPS
6061 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1212.165 FPS

Using "nouveau".

-Computer-
Processor : 4x AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 620 Processor
Memory : 3884MB (206MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Fri 09 Nov 2012 03:21:58 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1366x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on NV4C
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
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Billtoo


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Posts: 2185
Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Fri 09 Nov 2012, 17:28    Post_subject: Precise Puppy 5.4.1
Sub_title: precise 5.4.1 on hp desktop pc.
 

Running from live dvd with a savefile on an hp desktop pc.

Computer
Processor 2x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4500 @ 2.20GHz
Memory 4146MB (148MB used)
Display
Resolution 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer GeForce GT 220/PCIe/SSE2
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Operating System
Version
Kernel Linux 3.2.29 (i686)
Compiled #1 SMP Thu Sep 13 20:33:02 GMT-8 2012
OpenGL
Vendor NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer GeForce GT 220/PCIe/SSE2
Version 3.3.0 NVIDIA 304.64
Direct Rendering Yes

I installed vlc and lxtask using PPM.
No problems so far.
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p310don

Joined: 19 May 2009
Posts: 746
Location: Brisbane, Australia

PostPosted: Fri 09 Nov 2012, 20:29    Post_subject:  

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James C


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Posts: 5972
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Sat 10 Nov 2012, 02:59    Post_subject:  

Another frugal install of Precise 5.4.1 on another old test box. Everything working and correct on initial boot. No problems.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Precise Puppy, version 5.4.1

Chip description:
Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller

Driver used by Xorg:
vesa

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
378 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.428 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.140 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.147 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.144 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.119 FPS

Using the "intel" driver.

-Computer-
Processor : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Memory : 512MB (146MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sat 10 Nov 2012 12:58:15 AM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI Intel(R) 865G x86/MMX/SSE2
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH4 - Intel ICH5

VGA compatible controller : Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])

Ethernet controller : Intel Corporation 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controller (rev 02)
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mcewanw

Joined: 16 Aug 2007
Posts: 2350
Location: New Zealand

PostPosted: Sat 10 Nov 2012, 03:21    Post_subject:  

frugal install of Precise retro 5.4.1 on Fujitsu Amilo Pentium-M machine

Boots fine and no problems so far.

The version of pavrecord provided in Precise is the older one though (version 0.9.1). No problem with the newer pavrecord 0.9.2 (released 22 Oct) which I installed as a dotpet.

mcewanw

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tallboy


Joined: 21 Sep 2010
Posts: 454
Location: Oslo, Norway

PostPosted: Sat 10 Nov 2012, 05:13    Post_subject:  

Barry, not a big matter, but the download link http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/precise-5.4.0.90/ in the
'Precise Puppy 5.4.1beta1' release message dated 6 Nov 2012, on top of your blog, reports '404 - not found'.

This post was also incorrectly placed in the former Precise Puppy 5.4 thread, sorry about that.

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mcewanw

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Location: New Zealand

PostPosted: Sat 10 Nov 2012, 06:16    Post_subject: low frame rate from glxgears  

I don't actually know anything about glxgears but I see people providing reports using that.

I've just noticed that in Slacko-5.3.3 (frugal install) with mesa added I get a glxgears frame rate of over 200 frames/sec on my old Fujitsu Siemens Pentium-M laptop,

but on the same laptop with Precise retro 5.4.1 (frugal install) I only get a glxgears frame rate of around 60 frames/sec

I tried replacing the Precise xorg.conf with the one I had in Slacko-5.3.3 just as an experiment but that caused my Precise installation to freeze on booting.

Running report-video from Slacko-5.3.3 gives the following:

Code:

# report-video
radeon
Slacko Puppy, version 5.3.3 on Sat 10 Nov 2012

Chip description:
 0.0 VGA compatible controller
 ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] 
oem: ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600
 
X Server: Xorg
Driver used: radeon

X.Org version: 1.9.5
  dimensions:    1280x800 pixels (338x211 millimeters)
  depth of root window:    24 planes

   ...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz
# glxgears
1189 frames in 5.0 seconds = 237.657 FPS
1219 frames in 5.0 seconds = 243.653 FPS


EDIT:

When I run report-video from Puppy Precise retro 5.4.1, by default I get:

Code:

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: RetroPrecise Puppy, version 5.4.1

Chip description:
oem: ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600

Driver used by Xorg:
vesa

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution:  Depth 24  Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video


If I then run Xorgwizard from Precise retro and just let it Probe, it then automatically selects Driver used by Xorg as radeon. However, glxgears still only reports around 60 frames/sec after that:

Code:

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: RetroPrecise Puppy, version 5.4.1

Chip description:
oem: ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600

Driver used by Xorg:
radeon

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution:  Depth 24  Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
295 frames in 5.0 seconds = 58.969 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.056 FPS


One major difference I've noted is that when I run the command:

lsmod | grep radeon

On Slacko-5.3.3 I get:

Code:

radeon                741728  1
ttm                    36543  1 radeon
drm_kms_helper         17455  1 radeon
drm                   119536  4 radeon,ttm,drm_kms_helper
i2c_algo_bit            3600  1 radeon
i2c_core               12559  5 radeon,drm_kms_helper,drm,i2c_algo_bit,i2c_i801
hwmon                    965  2 radeon,thermal_sys


The same modules are listed when I do the same in Precise retro 5.4.1, but the radeon module (first line above) then comes up with a 2 at the end, not just 1. That may have nothing to do with the different glxgears frame rates I'm getting though - I have no idea...

On Precise the following idea from http://inebium.com/post/glxgears-vertical-refresh-vblank-mode gave no improvement to the result:
Code:

export vblank_mode=0
glxgears


Also on Precise I obtained the following glxinfo, but doesn't help me:

Code:

# glxinfo | grep -i render
direct rendering: Yes
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV350
    GL_EXT_vertex_array_bgra, GL_NV_conditional_render,
# glxinfo | grep -i render
direct rendering: Yes
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV350
    GL_EXT_vertex_array_bgra, GL_NV_conditional_render,


Hmmm, tried this on Precise Retro instead and glxgears frame rate report good now. I still don't understand all this, but I suspect all is well:

Code:

# export vblank_mode=1
# glxgears
ATTENTION: default value of option vblank_mode overridden by environment.
ATTENTION: default value of option vblank_mode overridden by environment.
6071 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1213.470 FPS
6251 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1249.448 FPS


Hmmm, I'm very confused about this 'cos on Slacko, if I run the same vblank_mode command as above, I get:

Code:

# export vblank_mode=1
# glxgears
1101 frames in 5.0 seconds = 220.152 FPS
1143 frames in 5.0 seconds = 228.472 FPS


Like I said, I don't understand glxgears and these confusing results. So I don't know if video frame rate performance is better of worse in Slacko-5.3.3 or Precise retro 5.4.1 on my system.

EDIT: I'm now also getting the increased glxgears frame rate in Precise retro 5.4.1 with vblank_mode=0 rather than 1 (sigh...):

Code:

# export vblank_mode=0
# glxgears
ATTENTION: default value of option vblank_mode overridden by environment.
ATTENTION: default value of option vblank_mode overridden by environment.
5877 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1173.988 FPS
5935 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1186.937 FPS
...


Can anybody explain all this?
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nubc


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PostPosted: Sat 10 Nov 2012, 06:30    Post_subject:  

Using Transmission to acquire precise-5.4.1.iso, I got an error in red:
Code:
Tracker gave an error: "Requested download is not authorized for use with this torrent."
However, I did successfully acquire this file.

I did not manage to acquire retroprecise-5.4.1.iso, probably because there were no seeders at the time (5:00AM ET Sat Nov 10). Maybe that's just as well, because precise 5.4.1 is running this Dell Dimension 3100 without any "black screen" issues. (The retroprecise torrent gave the same error as above.)
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nubc


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PostPosted: Sat 10 Nov 2012, 07:53    Post_subject:  

I have been confused more than once by the fact that the installation of vlc with dependencies requires two dialogs and two series of downloads to accomplish the installation, one for dependencies and another for vlc plus related files. If user installs dependencies by the first dialog and mistakenly closes the second dialog as a redundant error, the installation will fail, because vlc cannot be subsequently installed as a separate action.
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PostPosted: Sat 10 Nov 2012, 08:13    Post_subject:  

I tried three Gtk+ themes to correct the fact that the title bar at the top of a window does not change to a darker color when clicked, for the purpose of dragging the window. The top title bar remains white at all times, and practically indistinguishable from the Navigation Toolbar just below it. Sometimes, user has to click several times to drag a window. This is an issue for Gtk+ settings: Default, Flat-grey-rounded, and Raleigh.
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PostPosted: Sat 10 Nov 2012, 09:35    Post_subject: Mirror nluugnl needs to sync  

Our friends in the Netherlands need to sync their mirror.

Mirror aarnet looks good.

Regards
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PostPosted: Sat 10 Nov 2012, 09:38    Post_subject: Re: low frame rate from glxgears  

mcewanw wrote:


Can anybody explain all this?
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About glxgears:

http://forums.pcpitstop.com/index.php?/topic/197333-in-case-you-didnt-know/#entry1736966

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Nov 2012, 09:49    Post_subject:  

As reported, 5.4 was behaving so well that I did a FULL, intending to be permanent, as soon as a suitable machine/parts became available.
Please can someone advise whether a simple upgrade via the PUI is recommended/ liable to be successful, preferably folks with actual experience?
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