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Dear Microsoft, Thanks for Windows 8! Love, Linux
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James C


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PostPosted: Fri 26 Oct 2012, 03:49    Post subject:  Dear Microsoft, Thanks for Windows 8! Love, Linux  

http://www.internetnews.com/blog/skerner/dear-microsoft-thanks-for-windows-8-love-linux.html

Even worse than Ubuntu's Unity.......... Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri 26 Oct 2012, 07:12    Post subject:  

Laughing

..and do you know that windows-2012-server ships with metro too? Touch screen servers? Yeah.. right! Sys-admins are gonna have a ball!

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bark_bark_bark

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Oct 2012, 08:08    Post subject:  

I think Win8 is a step AHEAD of the OS industry. Why? Most people with PCs now a days are those All-in-ones, not towers. I guess the OS industry doesn't want to stay behind so MS goes ahead and advances us to a new generation of possibilities.

BUT.....

Will I upgrade... no. Why? because it is not fit for any of my PCs because Win8 is intended for touchscreen PCs, and I don't have one.

But you can upgrade if you want...
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qkall

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Oct 2012, 18:01    Post subject: Re: Dear Microsoft, Thanks for Windows 8! Love Linux  

James C wrote:

Even worse than Ubuntu's Unity.......... Laughing


not to hijack this thread or anything... but i rather like unity.
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8-bit


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PostPosted: Fri 26 Oct 2012, 18:57    Post subject:  

Does anyone remember a desktop interface that surfaced on Puppy (pun intended)?
It was a tile button type of interface that was supposedly targeted at older people.
Maybe that designer of that Puppy desktop interface could tell MS that the idea was his and collect on it! Laughing
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James C


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PostPosted: Fri 26 Oct 2012, 19:10    Post subject:  

Metro Puppy...?
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=617633#617633
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8-bit


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PostPosted: Sat 27 Oct 2012, 00:30    Post subject:  

Nope.
It was a desktop interface with big buttons that was supposed to make Puppy easier for old folks.
And the program had been around for a number of years if I remember correctly.
I cannot remember the author of it though.
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PostPosted: Sat 27 Oct 2012, 04:52    Post subject: Puppy easier for old folks  

8-bit wrote:
Nope.
It was a desktop interface with big buttons that was supposed to make Puppy easier for old folks.
And the program had been around for a number of years if I remember correctly.
I cannot remember the author of it though.

Hi 8-bit,
Your post sparked my interest & I found more than I expected, none of which I was previously aware of.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=360558&search_id=1486020992

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=1102534791&t=49117

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=1538906567&t=49281

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PostPosted: Mon 29 Oct 2012, 09:57    Post subject:  

seconded MetroPuppy
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mini-jaguar

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PostPosted: Thu 01 Nov 2012, 13:30    Post subject:  

I guess I'm out of touch with modern OSes, but I finally saw Winows 7 least week, and have to say that it looks a lot like KDE.

But mention Linux to outside people (like 95% of them) is going to make them run like hell. Really. They'd rather switch to Mac even if it takes more learning.

Speaking of Macs, it is really not impossible to install Linux to a harddrive with a GUID partition table and EFI. It can be a pain at times, but it is quite doable, and I'm sure it could be done even with the other kind of EFI everyone is worried about, as long as someone writes a decent bootloader.
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PostPosted: Fri 02 Nov 2012, 20:10    Post subject: Windows 8 Pro  

I was using Vista and discovered that setting up and exploring Windows 8 is relatively cheap and easy. You can buy five upgrade licenses for $40. The official site states that you can upgrade from XP, Vista, or Win7. I upgraded my copy of Vista which went fine and after installation I used Fatdog 64 to reinstall grub4dos so that I could boot all my linux os. It's working great, although it was time consuming because for a Vista upgrade, all extra software has to be reinstalled. Vista users should consider the upgrade, XP or Windows 7 users probably would not benefit unless they like the new look and feel of the metro desktop. I definitely prefer Windows 8 over Windows Vista.

JIm
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PostPosted: Wed 14 Nov 2012, 18:15    Post subject:  

NeoWin user sums it up
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So tired of the Win8 is bigger/just like Windows 95 talk from Microsoft.

Windows 8 is the anti-95.

Win32 programs didn't gave you the feeling that something is amiss compared to Win 3.1 applications. (with Metro you have this feeling constantly). Even the first generation Win95 programs at launch felt more capable than their 3.1 precursors (Corel Draw 6, Office 95). Notro provides the complete opposite feeling.

Windows 95 came with uncrippled winfile.exe and progman.exe (the win 3.1 GUI), and you were able to boot directly into it without even seeing 95's explorer.exe at all ("shell=progman.exe" in system.ini). (works in win 98 too) There was even an official option at the Windows 95 setup for that if you upgraded from Win3.1.

You also were able to directly boot into DOS with ease (just set bootgui=0 in msdos.sys, that also worked in Win 98.)

Windows 95 is the anti-thesis to Windows 8. The philosophies were completely different. The team had enough courage to provide all these options because it truly seemed as if they were proud and confident about the system to stand on its own. Windows 8 on the other hand comes across as coward's darling - "the users are too stupid to appreciate our beautiful hippster GUI, let's cripple the desktop as much as we can to force them to this". Windows 95 didn't need any crippling, users have chosen explorer.exe because it was better, and they had the ability to use the old GUI without compromise If they wished to do so.

Windows 95 is confidence. Windows 8 is cowardice.

Seems to me Microsoft Windows 8 Metro is going back to the 3.1 interface. Kind of like an app window and dropping the menu interface. Ah well, ten years time and a few hundred $$$ lighter, I'm sure MS users will get menu windows back hyped as the next big thing.
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Moose On The Loose


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PostPosted: Wed 14 Nov 2012, 22:34    Post subject:  

darrelljon wrote:
Ah well, ten years time and a few hundred $$$ lighter, I'm sure MS users will get menu windows back hyped as the next big thing.


Win-8 could be the "new Coke" of OSes. Coke wanted to switch to a cheaper product so they made "new Coke" taste awful so that when they brought out a new product and called it "Coke Classic" people would see it as better than the previous product and not compare it to the version before that. Win-9 in this theory will have a "Menu" button and not a "Start" button and come with fewer free things but be basically Win-7 all over again.
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PostPosted: Wed 14 Nov 2012, 23:45    Post subject:  

Very Happy Hello,
How about this?

As a pet!!!
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=664773#664773

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