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Puppy from CD sees HD but none of the data in it
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FeodorF


Joined: 07 Jul 2010
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Location: Heidelberg, Germany

PostPosted: Sun 18 Nov 2012, 15:16    Post_subject:  

Back home,

Horatio, let us try one more thing:

- boot up Puppy Linux

- open the 'Menu' choose 'System' and there 'Pdisk partition manager' and click on it to start this application.

- The window 'Pdisk drive partition manager' will open up. Choose the option 'sda' and click on it.

- Another window of 'Pdisk drive partition manager' shows up. Choose 'fdisk' and click on it.

- In the 'fdisk' window you have to enter 'p' . This will show all your drive information.

- Please make a screen shot of it and post it to the forum. Screen shot:(Menu -> Graphic -> mtPaint-snapshot screen capture)

- The last step: click on the 'fdisk' window again and enter: 'q' to quit the fdisk program.

Example of fdisk result: 'hddTrouble_02.png'
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FeodorF


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Location: Heidelberg, Germany

PostPosted: Sun 18 Nov 2012, 15:56    Post_subject: Re: Viewing hard drive contents when using Puppy  

FeodorF wrote:
Hi Horatio,

please do the following:

- now move the mouse cursor to the desktop icon 'console' and click on it

- in the 'urxvt' console you need to enter

gzip /tmp/bootkernel.log

- if you look at the folder 'tmp' now, you will see, that your file 'bootkernel.log' has been changed to:

bootkernel.log.gz

please post this file.


To post a file to the forum just go to 'Add an Attachment' and click on the 'Browse' button and use 'File Upload' or simply enter f.e. '/tmp/bootkernel.log.gz' to the line 'Filename'. Then click on 'Add Attachment'. That's all. Wink
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Horatio

Joined: 17 Nov 2012
Posts: 11

PostPosted: Sun 18 Nov 2012, 15:58    Post_subject:  

FeodorF wrote:
Back home,

Horatio, let us try one more thing:

- boot up Puppy Linux

- open the 'Menu' choose 'System' and there 'Pdisk partition manager' and click on it to start this application.

- The window 'Pdisk drive partition manager' will open up. Choose the option 'sda' and click on it.

- Another window of 'Pdisk drive partition manager' shows up. Choose 'fdisk' and click on it.

- In the 'fdisk' window you have to enter 'p' . This will show all your drive information.

- Please make a screen shot of it and post it to the forum. Screen shot:(Menu -> Graphic -> mtPaint-snapshot screen capture)

- The last step: click on the 'fdisk' window again and enter: 'q' to quit the fdisk program.

Example of fdisk result: 'hddTrouble_02.png'



Hi again, its like trying to learn to walk again Sad

Not only am I trying to get used to Windows 7 but also Linux as well

I have (I hope) attached the capture
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FeodorF


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Location: Heidelberg, Germany

PostPosted: Sun 18 Nov 2012, 16:41    Post_subject:  

Horatio,

I would suggest that you download the newest version of Puppy Linux.

In your case Precise Puppy Linux 5.4.1 'precise-5.4.1.iso' would be fine.

You can find it there:

http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/quirky/precise-5.4.1/

The reason why I'm asking for this is, that the number of heads exceed 255.
As your disk uses 'Number of Platters: 3' with 86 heads -> equals 258 heads in total.
The fdisk of Precise Puppy might display different numbers.

Please post back if you are/were able to download and try.
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Question to the forum members: W....-XP what are they using?
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Horatio

Joined: 17 Nov 2012
Posts: 11

PostPosted: Sun 18 Nov 2012, 17:53    Post_subject:  

FeodorF wrote:
Horatio,

I would suggest that you download the newest version of Puppy Linux.

In your case Precise Puppy Linux 5.4.1 'precise-5.4.1.iso' would be fine.

You can find it there:

http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/quirky/precise-5.4.1/

The reason why I'm asking for this is, that the number of heads exceed 255.
As your disk uses 'Number of Platters: 3' with 86 heads -> equals 258 heads in total.
The fdisk of Precise Puppy might display different numbers.

Please post back if you are/were able to download and try.
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Question to the forum members: W....-XP what are they using?



I am having to download using a win 7 laptop and saved the file to a thumb drive, moved to the ill PC and tried to run the file, and get an error message No run action specified, so finally found this and tried to set it but just went round in circles, what am I supposed to do please?
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FeodorF


Joined: 07 Jul 2010
Posts: 173
Location: Heidelberg, Germany

PostPosted: Sun 18 Nov 2012, 19:15    Post_subject:  

Horatio, let us try something else:

- boot up Puppy Linux

- open the 'Menu' choose 'System' and there 'Pdisk partition manager' and click on it to start this application.

- The window 'Pdisk drive partition manager' will open up. Choose the option 'sda' and click on it.

- Another window of 'Pdisk drive partition manager' shows up. Choose 'fdisk' and click on it.

- In the 'fdisk' window you have to enter 'x' . This will take you to the next level of fdisk.

- Here you enter 'd'. This will print the raw data (hexdump) of your partition table.

- Next step: enter 'p' to print the partition table. At this point take a screen shot of it, like shown in the picture below.

- To get out of this risky area of fdisk simply enter 'q' for quit.

The 'hexdump' will show if there are vital data left in the partition table or not.
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Horatio

Joined: 17 Nov 2012
Posts: 11

PostPosted: Sun 18 Nov 2012, 19:38    Post_subject:  

FeodorF wrote:
Horatio, let us try something else:

- boot up Puppy Linux

- open the 'Menu' choose 'System' and there 'Pdisk partition manager' and click on it to start this application.

- The window 'Pdisk drive partition manager' will open up. Choose the option 'sda' and click on it.

- Another window of 'Pdisk drive partition manager' shows up. Choose 'fdisk' and click on it.

- In the 'fdisk' window you have to enter 'x' . This will take you to the next level of fdisk.

- Here you enter 'd'. This will print the raw data (hexdump) of your partition table.

- Next step: enter 'p' to print the partition table. At this point take a screen shot of it, like shown in the picture below.

- To get out of this risky area of fdisk simply enter 'q' for quit.

The 'hexdump' will show if there are vital data left in the partition table or not.
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FeodorF


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Location: Heidelberg, Germany

PostPosted: Sun 18 Nov 2012, 23:03    Post_subject:  

Let's go with mathematics:

'Units=cylinders of 1290*512 bytes=660480 bytes'

660480 bytes converted into KB:

660480/1024=645 KB

86 heads*15 sectors = 1290 units *1/2KB = 645 KB

645 KB * 302885 cylinders = 195.360.825 KB (formated)

195.360.825 KB * 1.024 = 200049484800 bytes

So this part looks good!

(need a short break right now)

@Horatio:
At this point of testing I would consider contacting a windows user group to get further help on a save recovery of your personal data.

The reason why I'm saying this is: Linux uses a total different structure on storing data on hdd's. Our tools would destroy your data.

Regards Feodor

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rcrsn51


Joined: 05 Sep 2006
Posts: 9260
Location: Stratford, Ontario

PostPosted: Sun 18 Nov 2012, 23:09    Post_subject:  

@Horatio: What is the objective here - to recover data from this PC or to get it running with Puppy?
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Horatio

Joined: 17 Nov 2012
Posts: 11

PostPosted: Mon 19 Nov 2012, 05:06    Post_subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
@Horatio: What is the objective here - to recover data from this PC or to get it running with Puppy?


The main objective is to recover the data & email between my last back up and the crash
Although I have back ups it appears they are incomplete

If I can also get this PC working again all to the good as I really don't like laptops and use the desk top most of the time
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