Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

[Monsie]

Way to go, tuxtoo... some good troubleshooting there.

Your situation makes me wonder about the value of somebody starting a new thread for the Community regarding how to resolve issues for those members with new computers that have the UEFI BIOS.

Just some food for thought...
Monsie

[tuxtoo]

Monsie

Good idea, I have created a new thread on the hardware section New hardware with UEFI BIOS, older Puppy

[Puppyt]

Hi Tuxtoo,
just won myself a coupla laptops on an on-line auction. They may well be dead paperweights, as they were listed as "untested"-on account of missing ac power supplies... anyways they're of PII and PIII vintage, 128-512 MB RAM, circa1999-2001, and I realised that Puppy4 would be my best bet to replace whatever OS was there previously. Just reviewed your repository - good work with updating with Snap2 etc, thanks! Reminds me of some shortcomings in Puppy4 - what do you think of Silverpuppy's method here for "recovering after improper shutdowns" - http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=349934#349934, playdayz performance tweaks http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=33652 and bigbass' method (via shinobar) for automatic ethernet connection on bootup http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy//viewtopic.php?p=388206#388206. From my understanding, these tweaks really help to bring Puppy4 up to speed with the stability and functionality of the later kernels etc. [EDIT: on re-read this sounds like I was dis-ing Puppy4 - no, I meant more along the lines of OOTB user-friendliness/automation.] Do you think your repository audience would be interested in such "updates"? Maybe these and other tweaks presented together in a suped-up 412 ISO ?

P.S. I've been searching the wikka, using well-minded etc to try to "pinpoint" those Puppy bases best suited to the hardware I first listed. Wary is probably not going to be very successful, nor Puppy5+. Wish there was an online resource with a sliding scale of Puppy versions appropriate to given RAM, CPU type and speed (Hz, MMX etc). Do you know if there is one somewhere?

[tuxtoo]

Hi Puppyt

Thanks for the suggestions and here are my initial thoughts on them. I have briefly looked through the forum posts you refer to, and yes, I would like to include them in a kind of suped-up version of 412.

I suppose I have unintentionally started this with my puppy-4.1.2-lite.iso which I use as a base for making ISO’s for my own use and testing pet packages. Already included in this puplet is the ’Puppy-412 flash full screen fix’ plus ‘No Seamonkey, Opera flash doesn't work’ fix. Also the wallpaper setter requires either ‘fotoxx’ or ‘gpicview’ to be installed to work. There is a fix there to make the wallpaper setter work but without the preview, although installing either of the image viewers will return the wallpaper setter to fully functional. These fixes are not included in puppy-4.1.2-barebones.iso, puppy-4.1.2-barebones-retro.iso or g_pup-1.2.iso.

My reasons for using puppy-4.1.2-lite are that all the libs for the removed packages are still there and it is very easy just to use the Package manager to reinstall the missing packages. Or install the users preferred package, i.e. A word processor and spreadsheet. Just reinstall Abiword and Gnumeric from the package manager or Softmaker Office or Open Office from 412Collection or any of the other repos. The reason I like this approach is that Puppy is very easy to remaster with all your own preferred packages and settings included in the remaster.

I would like to include your suggestions in future versions of puppy-4.1.2-lite if I can, and the reason I say that is; I’m more of a Linux noob than expert and I am just a Puppy fan with some web skills able to give something back to the Puppy community. So these are just my thoughts on this and I am open to further suggestions.

As to finding a suitable Puppy version for your hardwear, I think it is a case of trial and error. Just download whatever version was released nearest to the date of the hardwear as a starting point. Sorry I can’t be more helpful.

[Puppyt]

Hi tuxtoo,
eventually I was able to get an AC transformer (mil-spec) for 2 of my 3 auction-winning laptops. I have one working (yippee!) but I haven't spent a lot of time working out which Puppy works 'BEST' with it. The working box has a P-III Coppermine CPU (500MHz) and 512MB sdram - and it also has a resistant touch screen - and I've never used touch screens before. Could you recommend something for me, driver-wise, in the 412 stable? And, how is your lite project travelling?
Cheers

EDIT: I shoulda dun sum homewerk e.g., http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=668465#668465

[Puppyt]

Hi tuxtoo,
well its pretty late here in Oz, and I'm just racing this off before I hit the sack. My Australian-made "Opentec OpenFire Series II, 461D" (?) turns out to be - thanks to rokytnji's sterling detective work - pretty much a re-badged Amrel Rocky RT686. He supplied me with the Amrel BIOS upgrade and now - I can apparently boot up via my pcmcia (pcCardbus} USB ports. Fabulous - as no HDD's were supplied with my batch, no cd-burners (cd-rom only), bootup times have been a bit prohibitive. With the old BIOS, bootup was only possible from floppy/hdd/cd-rom. (It's not equipped with touchscren after all - my mistake.) Still experimenting with various Puppies - unfortunately had no luck with your 412-lite offering but may have been a dodgy burn. Have to be pretty careful with burn speeds to make this old hardware happy, so that I can then install into USB-zip (flash drive).
I'm prattling - Legacy OS 4 is taking its sweet time with bootup - it's a bit on the 'enhanced' side and probably wringing my 512mb RAM for all its worth. The Legacy OS 2 refused to detect the usb sticks, though grudgingly saw the wifi card (bcmXXX pcmcia), I wasn't able to connect. So, here's hoping the lighter offerings you have in your repository can shed some light on the matter. Hope your remastering project is on track, too

EDIT: Legacy 4 promising to complete loading up any... second... now I just did a quick visit to see your "Farewell" notice on your 412 Collection website. That's sad news. You made a great effort there. I appreciate your diligence in bringing all those applications and bases together.
CHEERS and thanks so much!

[oligin10]

Hi Tuxtoo, sorry to see you are shutting down the Puppy 412 dedicated website. Thanks for all you have done. Rob

[tuxtoo]

Hi oligin10

Thanks to starhawk and goingnuts (forum names) I am not closing 412collection. Their encouragement and the traffic that 412collection gets has convinced me to keep it going.

Regards

tuxtoo

[oligin10]

Thanks for the update. Very glad to hear this. Rob

[Puppyt]

woo hoo! That IS good news!

Thanks very much for packaging the SoftMaker OO 2012 for 412, also.

[darry1966]

Great to have this site I use Gpup as my bread and butter workhorse system and tried many of the programs here to build my own system that frankly just works.

Tried a lot of the new Puppies which ave package Manager issues so will stay with what works.

Keep up the great work Tuxtoo.

[rokytnji]

Just in case it is relevant to this thread which I found with searching through the web.

http://macpup.org/macpup412.php

Use Link3. Link 1 seems dead.

[Colonel Panic]

I've just bookmarked this one! Thanks.

[ally]

macpup's mirrored on the puppy linux channel of archive.org

[url]ia601804.us.archive.org/28/items/Puppy_Linux_Macpup/[/url]

[tuxtoo]