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vicmz · Joined: 15 Jan 2012 Posts: 645

Sorry for the off-topic

@James C

How can I install the system details panel you have on the top-right corner of your screenshots? Is it conky? Are there any .pet packages for that?

James C · Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 4768 Location: Kentucky

vicmz · Joined: 15 Jan 2012 Posts: 645

artsown · Joined: 12 Sep 2012 Posts: 124

I ran Precise 5.4.2 for a couple of days and it seems to be solid with the
exception that it black screens on about 20% of startups and it still fails
to start up at all on one of my PCs. I post this because I've become
curious about the reason(s) all four of my various PCs having Pentium 4
cpus have problems with Pups built on 3. something kernels but have no
such problems running Pups built on earlier kernels. Why???

Art

James C · Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 4768 Location: Kentucky

davids45 · Joined: 26 Nov 2006 Posts: 581 Location: Chatswood, NSW

G'day Art,

I have slightly similar problems with virtually all PAE-enabled Puppies giving black-screens soon after running - they all start up. Retros are all fine so far.

I put this down to my particular Radeon graphics card and the drivers offered by the various Linux distributions.

Are your four computers using the same graphics cards/system?

If not, if you listed the various graphics for each computer perhaps someone could give some help for you (and for me too, come to think of it).

David S.

eps · Joined: 03 Jul 2010 Posts: 36

not see dvdrom in fullinstall
idem samsung camera
livecd and frugal works good
best whishes
thanks
eps

WB7ODYFred · Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Posts: 93 Location: Oregon & Washington

Retro Precise 5.4.2 Readme file
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/precise-5.4.2-retro/precise-5.4.2-retro-README.htm

Here is the command to create this torrent
mktorrent -a udp://tracker.publicbt.com:80/announce,udp://tracker.istole.it:80/announce,http://tracker.coppersurfer.tk:6969/announce,http://tracker.torrentbay.to:6969/announce,http://puto.me:6969/announce -c "Puppy Linux Retro Precise based on Ubuntu Precise Pangolin 12.04.1+ " -w http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/precise-5.4.2-retro/retroprecise-5.4.2.iso,http://ftp.nluug.nl/ibiblio/distributions/quirky/precise-5.4.2-retro/retroprecise-5.4.2.iso -o retroprecise-5.4.2.iso.torrent retroprecise-5.4.2.iso

http://www.datafilehost.com/download-1816ebd4.html Download Link for retroprecise-5.4.2.iso.torrent

AARF Example on creating Torrents TO SHARE
http://puppylinux.info/topic/pet-for-mktorrent-make-torrent-files-with-webseeds-and-distribute-your-files-far-and-wide

http://ftp.nluug.nl/ibiblio/distributions/quirky/precise-5.4.2-retro/ NLUUG download site
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/precise-5.4.2-retro/ Ibiblio Download Site

How To use ZIP command to create a ZIP file
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=54552&sid=10b758dc49728f40924e2005c175ca3d

Command to create a ZIP file from a torrent file.
zip retroprecise-5.4.2.iso.torrent.zip retroprecise-5.4.2.iso.torrent

artsown · Joined: 12 Sep 2012 Posts: 124

Hello davids45.

You may be right that video driver versions are the "black screen"
culprit. I began to associate the black screen problem with Pups
on 3.X kernels since slacko, racy and precise all have the problem,
at least with PAE versions. I noticed that Barry remarked that the
only other difference (precise) between PAE and Retro is video
drivers. My tests on Precise Retro also indicated no black screen
problem. But 5.4.2 Retro still freezes during startup at the line
"Recognising media devices ... optical input" on one machine.

None of my PCs have the Radeon video. Two of my PCs have some
old Nvidia and the other two have some versions of (on board)
Intel hardware. I seem to recall that forcing Vesa on one of my
tests cleared up the black screen problem. So that's one
indication that it may be a driver issue.

To be clear, "black screen" here means "mostly black" since the
toolbar at the bottom of the screen is visible and useable so
that you can select Menu-Shutdown-Restart x server to get the
full gui screen. That's another reason why I'm not so sure it's
as simple as video driver versions. Why should video work ok
once you restart x if it's a driver problem? I would expect far
worse behaviour with video driver problems.

I couldn't care less for myself about these issues. My concern
is that new users may get turned off of Puppy at the first
black screen and never return Smile

Since I'm obviously confused by all I've seen, I've been hoping
that Barry or some other expert would shed some light. I'd be
perfectly happy to do some guided testing.

Art

bigpup · Posted: Mon 03 Dec 2012, 13:18 Post_subject:

artsown,

Yes it is related to the graphics driver being used.
The driver that is trying to be used, at initial boot, is not completely compatible with your graphics hardware.

In Slacko 5.4 this is the suggested options to correct the problem.

oldyeller · Joined: 15 Nov 2011 Posts: 499 Location: Mishawaka IN

Hello,

Precise retro 5.4.2 frugal install Dell D430

It would seem that Pmusic never made it in Precise. Any one no way?

Cheers

Terryphi · Posted: Mon 03 Dec 2012, 14:56 Post_subject:

artsown · Joined: 12 Sep 2012 Posts: 124

Thanks for the input, bigpup.

Art

FeodorF · Joined: 07 Jul 2010 Posts: 71 Location: Heidelberg, Germany

Ref. /usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps

24x24 boxes aren`t RGB`s

48x48 boxes are RGB`s

BarryK · Posted: Tue 04 Dec 2012, 07:25 Post_subject: