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mavrothal


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PostPosted: Tue 04 Dec 2012, 11:30    Post subject:  

simargl wrote:
This is new udev version 175 compiled in archpup, using source from debian mirror, and without any patches.
Its working fine here so I'm uploading for you to test. Backup your save file before you begin...
To install it: First remove folder /lib/udev/rules.d, then extract package
Code:
tar -xf udev-175-1.tar.bz2

and copy content inside install folder to rootfs
Code:
cp -aRf install/* /

Everyone who had problems with wireless because firmware modules was not loading etc. please test this and report your findings. Thanks Smile


Didn't quite work for me.
Usually the files are in /lib/udev and not in /lib also libudev goes to /lib and not /usr/lib (otherwise you end up with libs in both places).
Maybe I did not manage to clear all the old udev files. I'll give it another try, but maybe is better to use consistent file location so will overwrite the preexisting ones.

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PostPosted: Tue 04 Dec 2012, 12:43    Post subject:  

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Usually the files are in /lib/udev and not in /lib also libudev goes to /lib and not /usr/lib (otherwise you end up with libs in both places).

Thanks, I fixed that recompiled and changed instructions, to make clean reinstall.
See here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=668885#668885
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mavrothal


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PostPosted: Tue 04 Dec 2012, 14:06    Post subject:  

simargl wrote:
Quote:
Usually the files are in /lib/udev and not in /lib also libudev goes to /lib and not /usr/lib (otherwise you end up with libs in both places).

Thanks, I fixed that recompiled and changed instructions, to make clean reinstall.
See here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=668885#668885


Yep. That's good. wifi is OK.
Though I still have the same problems as I had with my udev-167. ie terminal still needs /dev/pts to run.
I did not check if there are any devices in initrd, but you might need udev also there, though the kernel should be configured to support this.
Also I noticed a lot of broken kmod symlinks in archpup. Is it booting with kmod?

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PostPosted: Tue 04 Dec 2012, 14:44    Post subject:  

I see that /dev/pts is not created for me either, but terminal is still working. Its so strange because I remember that earlier it refused to work with error 'Cannot open your terminal /dev/pts'. Maybe to test with this in rc.sysinit
Code:
mkdir /dev/pts
busybox mount -t devpts devpts /dev/pts

kmod was in /usr/bin, and I moved it to /sbin, to create modules.dep on startup if needed.
Code:
mv install/usr/bin/kmod install/sbin/kmod
rm install/sbin/{depmod,modprobe}
rm install/usr/bin/{insmod,lsmod,modinfo,rmmod}
cp install/sbin/kmod install/sbin/depmod
ln -s /sbin/kmod install/sbin/modprobe
ln -s /sbin/kmod install/sbin/insmod
ln -s /sbin/kmod install/sbin/lsmod
ln -s /sbin/kmod install/sbin/modinfo
ln -s /sbin/kmod install/sbin/rmmod

Please tell me where are broken links. Did I forget something?
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Joined: 22 Feb 2009
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PostPosted: Tue 04 Dec 2012, 16:03    Post subject:  

simargl wrote:
@cinclus_cinclus: You need to remove or comment last lines in /etc/profile, inside if statement.

OK.
Quote:
(Intel-3D-driver) ... if it's not available it will then use vesa.

I'm afraid not: neither the intel nor the vesa are installed automatically.

So for the moment I got a working solution with the following configuration (in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-monitor.conf):
Code:
Section "Monitor"
    Identifier             "Monitor0"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier             "Device0"
    Driver                 "vesa" #Choose the driver used for this monitor
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier             "Screen0"  #Collapse Monitor and Device section to Screen section
    Device                 "Device0"
    Monitor                "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth           24 #Choose the depth (16||24)
    SubSection             "Display"
        Depth                24
        Modes                "1280x1024" #Choose the resolution
    EndSubSection
EndSection


I never got a problem before with an Xorg-Intel-driver on my MSI G45M Digital mobo on any other distribution (an exception was SALIX).
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PostPosted: Tue 04 Dec 2012, 17:39    Post subject:  

simargl wrote:
I see that /dev/pts is not created for me either, but terminal is still working. Its so strange because I remember that earlier it refused to work with error 'Cannot open your terminal /dev/pts'. Maybe to test with this in rc.sysinit
Code:
mkdir /dev/pts
busybox mount -t devpts devpts /dev/pts

I do that in /root/.start and works ok but then in some case like issuing 'alsamixer -V all' I get "rxvt-unicode failed to open" Confused

simargl wrote:
Please tell me where are broken links. Did I forget something?

Looks OK. I can not find it anymore in a fresh install Embarassed

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stifiling

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PostPosted: Tue 04 Dec 2012, 20:25    Post subject:  

@mavrothal

thanks for that udev pet....it fixed the issue. i think it'll be helpful to users to remaster it...as well as /lib/firmware into the next release.
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PostPosted: Tue 04 Dec 2012, 21:53    Post subject:  

Very Happy Hello,
As we can see, my efforts to Woof a fully formed Archpup were in vain..
But a base release, with much user input, will eventually produce a fully functional Pup.. Hail to all involved.. This will be a most useful Pup, a revolution... Not a bit jealous that someone else got it started... Rolling Eyes

Keep going, dont give up till this is a viable option to the Puppy world..
Awesome work... Much kudos... This could really be Puppy changing in terms of integrating pacman.. And some have already exported this to other Puppies... Aww.. Gotta love the Borg spirit in Puppy..... Feel good man..
You deserve it..... Smile

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PostPosted: Tue 04 Dec 2012, 22:12    Post subject:  

stifiling wrote:
@mavrothal

thanks for that udev pet....it fixed the issue. i think it'll be helpful to users to remaster it...as well as /lib/firmware into the next release.

Does the udev affect all wifi adapters do you think? or is it only for adapters hooked in via usb?
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PostPosted: Wed 05 Dec 2012, 00:01    Post subject:  

greengeek wrote:
Does the udev affect all wifi adapters do you think? or is it only for adapters hooked in via usb?


u know i haven't thoroughly tested it. the archpup i'm testing it on, is one that i switched the kernel to 3.2.8-ski....the saluki kernel.

so using the udev pet posted above...and the saluki kernel, my wireless is working on all my machines the same as if i was using any other puplet. usb or builtin. but with the default Archpup kernel...i cannot say.

but going off what "i think" though..."i think" it should work like it does with any other puppy....i really don't see a reason why it wouldn't. jus can't say 'for sure' yet.
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PostPosted: Wed 05 Dec 2012, 02:09    Post subject:  

simargl,
are aufs-utils included in the build? Could not find them anywhere. I could not also find aufs_type.h in the kernel headers Confused and the one in the kernel source will not do.

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PostPosted: Wed 05 Dec 2012, 04:34    Post subject:  

mavrothal wrote:
simargl,
are aufs-utils included in the build? Could not find them anywhere. I could not also find aufs_type.h in the kernel headers Confused and the one in the kernel source will not do.

It should be there:
Code:
[root@archpup src]# ls
linux  linux-3.6.8
[root@archpup src]# find linux-3.6.8 -name *aufs*
linux-3.6.8/Documentation/ABI/testing/debugfs-aufs
linux-3.6.8/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-aufs
linux-3.6.8/Documentation/filesystems/aufs
linux-3.6.8/fs/aufs
linux-3.6.8/fs/aufs/aufs.h
linux-3.6.8/fs/aufs/dbgaufs.c
linux-3.6.8/fs/aufs/dbgaufs.h
linux-3.6.8/fs/aufs/sysaufs.c
linux-3.6.8/fs/aufs/sysaufs.h
linux-3.6.8/include/config/aufs
linux-3.6.8/include/linux/aufs_type.h
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PostPosted: Wed 05 Dec 2012, 05:13    Post subject:  

So I got only one response on request for testing udev Sad. OK
See this linux-firmware-20121118.tar.xz in ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/other/linux-firmware/
It contains all linux firmware and needs only simple compressing to sfs module.
I will leave that to interested users (if any). Today will make final update to version 1204
with new udev and some other stuff.
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mavrothal


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PostPosted: Wed 05 Dec 2012, 06:52    Post subject:  

simargl wrote:
mavrothal wrote:
simargl,
are aufs-utils included in the build? Could not find them anywhere. I could not also find aufs_type.h in the kernel headers Confused and the one in the kernel source will not do.

It should be there:
Code:
[root@archpup src]# ls
linux  linux-3.6.8
[root@archpup src]# find linux-3.6.8 -name *aufs*
linux-3.6.8/Documentation/ABI/testing/debugfs-aufs
linux-3.6.8/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-aufs
linux-3.6.8/Documentation/filesystems/aufs
linux-3.6.8/fs/aufs
linux-3.6.8/fs/aufs/aufs.h
linux-3.6.8/fs/aufs/dbgaufs.c
linux-3.6.8/fs/aufs/dbgaufs.h
linux-3.6.8/fs/aufs/sysaufs.c
linux-3.6.8/fs/aufs/sysaufs.h
linux-3.6.8/include/config/aufs
linux-3.6.8/include/linux/aufs_type.h


It is in the kernel source sfs but not in /usr/include/linux where it should be. And just copying it over still fails (I do not have the compile error handy now).
What kernel headers do you have in the dev-archpup.sfs?

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PostPosted: Wed 05 Dec 2012, 07:23    Post subject:  

It is original linux-api-headers from Arch. I did not compile it, because glibc needs them and
I thought that recompiling them could create some compatibility issues. You have list of
files from that package here /var/lib/spkg/installed/linux-api-headers.
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