Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

greengeek · Last edited by greengeek on Mon 14 Oct 2013, 01:07; edited 1 time in total

Do you want to be able to shut down your usb puppy quickly? Without waiting for the final savefile update which can often take several minutes if you have a slow usb stick or lots of data waiting to be updated?

Puppy usb installs are usually set with the default setting to save all data to the savefile periodically, and that can be a useful function so that you capture whatever work you have been saving into Puppy's internal file structure. However, I don't always want to allow the final pupsave that occurs during the powerdown sequence. Sometimes I just want to shutdown quickly with a single click. no questions asked.

This might be because I am in a hurry and don't care about any new data I've just been viewing/downloading, or it might be that I am choosing to discard changes that I have just made (eg: I might have accidentally removed a critical folder and I don't want that deletion to become permanent)

I want to highlight two methods that can be used to achieve this:

1) There is a superquick way to shut down your usb puppy.
***WARNING*** This method is potentially dangerous, and there may be significant risk to your data.***WARNING***
If you want to take this risk (and sometimes I do...) the topic is here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=67084

(also another similar discussion here: )
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=89282

2) I also have another method which does NOT bypass the normal "soft" shudown procedures, it just bypasses the final pupsave procedure. You don't have to go through the normal shutdown menu, you just click a desktop icon which forces an immediate shutdown without save, but with all the normal unmounts etc. It can save you several minutes of valuable time.
Here is how to do it:
a) First we need to modify the shutdown file so that it is ready to wait for our "no_save" command:

Locate file /etc/rc.d/rc.shutdown and open it as text.
Search for "13)" and/or "snapmergepuppy" and find the paragraph that looks like the code snippet below:
Add in 3 extra lines as shown embedded here:

Pelo

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=780272280&t=78055

Same process as for the first use of the distro .

greengeek · Posted: Tue 11 Dec 2012, 13:44 Post subject:

Thanks Pelo. Does pupsaveconfig allow you to place an icon on the desktop to shutdown immediately without saving? I looked at that forum post but my french is not good I m afraid.

dejan555 · Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 2805 Location: Montenegro

I think your first post just answered my question, this Nosave flag is what I need I think
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=670536#670536

EDIT: Nope, please ignore I see you modified rc.shutdown for that flag file my bad for skimming through thread

Sylvander · Posted: Tue 11 Dec 2012, 14:07 Post subject:

What if the user wants to REBOOT without saving the session changes? Wink

Oops...
You made the following post during my edit. Embarassed

e.g. I often want to make no session saves during the session...
Then reboot into a new session without saving during the reboot.

This would typically be a banking or buying session...
Or opening multiple unusual web-pages that I don't want to save...
Then reboot into a normal session->[open at the Puppy Forums plus the PC-Guide Forums]...
During and after which I would probably again save no changes, but then again I might.

dejan555 · Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 2805 Location: Montenegro

then use wmreboot in script instead wmpoweroff Smile

Sylvander · Posted: Tue 11 Dec 2012, 14:21 Post subject:

With my present arrangement...
I can choose to either shutdown or reboot...
And THEN I'm asked whether "to save or not to save"...
"Don't save" is the default, and that's my usual choice [I just hit "Enter" to "OK" that].

Is there any way with the above method to choose the one or the other?
i.e.
REBOOT and don't save...
Or...
SHUTDOWN and don't save.

I imagine the user should make 2 shortcuts:
1 with its script using wmreboot...
The other with its script using wmpoweroff.

dejan555 · Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 2805 Location: Montenegro

Yes, there are ways to do it with one script and simple dialog box where you would have just shutdown and reboot buttons and wouldn't save session, or you could just write script to write the No_save file and then shutdown or reboot from normal menu, wmpoweroff/wmreboot is really not needed in script but then you need to click the script to make file and then regularly use menu's shutdown/reboot

greengeek · Posted: Tue 11 Dec 2012, 14:45 Post subject:

greengeek · Posted: Tue 11 Dec 2012, 14:55 Post subject:

dejan555 · Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 2805 Location: Montenegro

I'm looking at /usr/sbin/shutownconfig now it seems Barry moved some code from rc.shutdown there, the puppy version I remastered for my desk before is older so the scripts changed a lot I guess. Haven't done much scripting or modifyng for a while so I need some time to catch on things Smile

RSH · Joined: 05 Sep 2011 Posts: 2420 Location: Germany

A picture is telling more than a thousand words. Very Happy

Already done in LazY Puppy 2!

Sylvander · Posted: Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:44 Post subject:

greengeek · Posted: Tue 11 Dec 2012, 17:12 Post subject:

Barkin · Joined: 12 Aug 2011 Posts: 823

IMO the "save" and "nosave" icons above are too similar and could be mistaken for each another. They should be much more dissimilar, e.g. attached ...