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puppy_apprentice


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PostPosted: Sat 15 Dec 2012, 03:29    Post_subject:  

@nooby

"So why this instead of Proteus Linux which is the community
version of Slax?"

if you are a curious person u will try them all ;p

and i'm testing Polish version of SLAX and have Polish letters, did u tested Swedish one?
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PostPosted: Sat 15 Dec 2012, 03:49    Post_subject:  

D4P much appreciated you did that one.

So Porteus does not allow root?
That surprises I've been active on their forum
some year ago but don't remember details.

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PostPosted: Sat 15 Dec 2012, 04:20    Post_subject:  

nooby wrote:

So Porteus does not allow root?


Several months ago you were running Porteus as root.......see here
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=604564#604564

The stuff on that entire page should still work.
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PostPosted: Sat 15 Dec 2012, 04:37    Post_subject:  

Thanks, that is why I felt surprised then.
So maybe something in the set up at D4P
trigger taht it goes into some Live User default?

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PostPosted: Sun 16 Dec 2012, 00:26    Post_subject:  

@Nooby

No root access, maybe frugal install & persistent on NTFS?
or maybe I dont know how to get root?
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PostPosted: Sun 16 Dec 2012, 00:27    Post_subject:  

4m-linux is only 40 Mb.
The supported filesystems are: btrfs, ext2, ext3, ext4, FAT, HFS,
HFS+, jfs, Minix, NTFS, ReiserFS, and XFS.
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Colonel Panic


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PostPosted: Tue 18 Dec 2012, 07:22    Post_subject:  

Just installed WattOS 6, a Ubuntu variant designed for older computers.

I'm impressed for the most part as it looks good and does everything I really need, but unfortunately some of the packages are broken (a common problem with ubuntu-based distros once the version of Ubuntu they're based on gets superseded) so I can't get midnight commander or conky working.

For that reason it's unlikely to be a long term keeper but WattOS 7 will be out Feb or March with any luck. It deserves to succeed if it helps to keep a lot of old machines out of landfill (as does Puppy of course).

BTW, I'm playing Focus's 1974 album "Hamburger Concerto" on Youtube as I type this - great music.

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Dec 2012, 12:34    Post_subject:  

Heh, WattOS. WattOS is at least partially responsible for introducing me to Puppy. I know I've told this tale before, but I like to tell it, so you folks get to hear a repeat Razz

"A long time ago, on another forum, far, far away" (sorry, George, couldn't resist...) I was turning a thin client into a PC. I needed a lightweight OS because the thin client was older and the hardware specs deplorable at best. (Even brand-new thin clients are generally extraordinarily weak, compared to even most of the stuff that runs Puppy. It's by design -- they do as much as they have to, and not one bit more.) I knew Windows wasn't going to cut it, and I didn't see Ubuntu or any of its variants being nearly light enough. I'd only had experience with that one distro, but I knew there were TONS more.

So I did some asking, and some looking, and I found WattOS and a lot of people recommending this thing called Puppy Linux. I never heard of either one, and the forum had never heard of WattOS (IIRC it was brand new at the time).

I decided to give WattOS a chance first. (To this day, I've no idea why!) So I posted on WattOS' forums, "hey, I need to run a distro off a CF card on a thin client with mondo low specs, can WattOS do that?" Well, OK, the post was a lot more detailed, but that's the essence of it. A week went by and no reply -- so I posted again, spelling out for them in quite thorough detail exactly how much they had to learn about tech support and all that. I'd honestly like to think they've learned (I suspect they have, if they're up to version 6!), but I've never been back to find out.

...to make a long story, well, a little less long (!) ... I put up a post here on this very forum [EDIT: this thread right here] asking if Puppy could do what I want. Boom! Answer within an hour, and if I remember correctly, it was within a half-hour. Either way, it was along the lines of "heck yeah, we can do that!"...

...and the rest, as they say, was history.

Just curious, Colonel... how fast is WattOS compared to, say, Puplite5 or Akita? (A very slightly modified Puplite5 is what went on that thin client!) I imagine, being an Ubuntu derivative, WattOS winds up carrying at least a good percentage of the same bloat... and therefore is far more slow and pudgy than it needs to be.

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Colonel Panic


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PostPosted: Tue 18 Dec 2012, 20:11    Post_subject:  

starhawk wrote:
Heh, WattOS. WattOS is at least partially responsible for introducing me to Puppy. I know I've told this tale before, but I like to tell it, so you folks get to hear a repeat Razz

"A long time ago, on another forum, far, far away" (sorry, George, couldn't resist...) I was turning a thin client into a PC. I needed a lightweight OS because the thin client was older and the hardware specs deplorable at best. (Even brand-new thin clients are generally extraordinarily weak, compared to even most of the stuff that runs Puppy. It's by design -- they do as much as they have to, and not one bit more.) I knew Windows wasn't going to cut it, and I didn't see Ubuntu or any of its variants being nearly light enough. I'd only had experience with that one distro, but I knew there were TONS more.

So I did some asking, and some looking, and I found WattOS and a lot of people recommending this thing called Puppy Linux. I never heard of either one, and the forum had never heard of WattOS (IIRC it was brand new at the time).

I decided to give WattOS a chance first. (To this day, I've no idea why!) So I posted on WattOS' forums, "hey, I need to run a distro off a CF card on a thin client with mondo low specs, can WattOS do that?" Well, OK, the post was a lot more detailed, but that's the essence of it. A week went by and no reply -- so I posted again, spelling out for them in quite thorough detail exactly how much they had to learn about tech support and all that. I'd honestly like to think they've learned (I suspect they have, if they're up to version 6!), but I've never been back to find out.

...to make a long story, well, a little less long (!) ... I put up a post here on this very forum [EDIT: this thread right here] asking if Puppy could do what I want. Boom! Answer within an hour, and if I remember correctly, it was within a half-hour. Either way, it was along the lines of "heck yeah, we can do that!"...

...and the rest, as they say, was history.

Just curious, Colonel... how fast is WattOS compared to, say, Puplite5 or Akita? (A very slightly modified Puplite5 is what went on that thin client!) I imagine, being an Ubuntu derivative, WattOS winds up carrying at least a good percentage of the same bloat... and therefore is far more slow and pudgy than it needs to be.


Hi starhawk,

I only really notice if things are extremely fast or slow, but I'd say WattOS is fast enough for a Pentium 4 (which mine is, bearing in mind that all its apps are lightweight ones by design). Abiword opens in about three or four seconds on my machine and Gnumeric almost instantly when Abiword is open.

I haven't tried Akita on this machine but I'd guess it's about the same as WattOS. I don't know Puplite, sorry.

As I said though, at the moment it seems like several packages in WattOS are broken, which is a shame.

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Dec 2012, 21:23    Post_subject:  

One more WattOS question: are the packages broken right away, or does it try to update, fail badly, and break everything as a result?
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James C


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PostPosted: Wed 19 Dec 2012, 01:57    Post_subject:  

Just messing with Sid........

Code:
Wed Dec 19 13:57:21 CST 2012
bbq@bbq:~$ uname -r
3.7-1.towo-siduction-686
bbq@bbq:~$
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PostPosted: Wed 19 Dec 2012, 09:30    Post_subject:  

I always wanted to try Debian, but it comes on 8 DVDs. That's 8 DVDs I don't have. I never really write DVDs.
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PostPosted: Wed 19 Dec 2012, 18:45    Post_subject:  

bark_bark_bark wrote:
I always wanted to try Debian, but it comes on 8 DVDs. That's 8 DVDs I don't have. I never really write DVDs.


...Yes,..and now I read where Wheezy will be coming out on 11 DVDs!!!! ELEVEN!
I used to use Debian a lot,...and would get the DVDs ('cause I'm still on dialup). Lenny only had 4 DVDs,...and was super-nice. I peeled out the extra $$$ for the 8 Squeeze DVDs,.....but NO WAY am I gonna go for 11 DVDs.

I took an old 20 Gig hard drive I had,....and loaded it with Lenny and ALL the games that Lenny and Squeeze had on their DVDs for my grandson. I simply switch out my 160 Gig hard drive for the old 20 G ...when the grandson comes over. Now I can use whatever linux distro I want,....and he can get all his linux games he wants, as well. (Another old computer is loaded with W2k,...and about 100 or so old windows and old dos games for him).

Naw,....no more Debian for me, it seems. Too many DVDs.
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PostPosted: Wed 19 Dec 2012, 19:55    Post_subject:  

starhawk wrote:
One more WattOS question: are the packages broken right away, or does it try to update, fail badly, and break everything as a result?


Well, good news on that front. I've removed gkrellm now and the programs that weren't installing before have since installed just fine Smile

I'm still aware that I know a lot less about Debian- and Ubuntu-based distros than Slack-based ones though (how to locate and enable appropriate repos, for example). Still, it's all working now.

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PostPosted: Wed 19 Dec 2012, 21:06    Post_subject:  

James C wrote:
Just messing with Sid........

Code:
Wed Dec 19 13:57:21 CST 2012
bbq@bbq:~$ uname -r
3.7-1.towo-siduction-686
bbq@bbq:~$


Just messing with AntiX

Code:
$ uname -r
3.7.1-antix.2-amd64-smp
$ cat /etc/os-release
PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid"
NAME="Debian GNU/Linux"
ID=debian
ANSI_COLOR="1;31"


Iso was 300MB for Base. 64bit also.
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