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How to open dev options in Android 4.2
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Dave_G


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PostPosted: Thu 20 Dec 2012, 14:03    Post subject:  
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Why not just root your device and install puppy today?


Is there are Puppy port for ARM that I don't know about which runs on these devices?
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jpeps

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PostPosted: Thu 20 Dec 2012, 15:56    Post subject:  
Dave_G wrote:
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Why not just root your device and install puppy today?


Is there are Puppy port for ARM that I don't know about which runs on these devices?


http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PARM
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Dave_G


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PostPosted: Thu 20 Dec 2012, 16:27    Post subject:  
Aha, great stuff, thank you.
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sunburnt


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PostPosted: Thu 20 Dec 2012, 18:50    Post subject:  
jpeps; I like the idea of what you`ve said.
But isn`t Puppy as a mouse driven interface not really suited for a touch screen?
So much is small buttons and lists and menus to select from.
Unless the tablet was equipped with a stylus Puppy doesn`t seem compatible.

Wouldn`t a rework of Puppy`s GUIs be in order to make this a reality?
And then there`s still the Linux apps. themselves... More rework?
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jpeps

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PostPosted: Thu 20 Dec 2012, 20:12    Post subject:  
Yes, there's a lot to consider, both for the OS working with the hardware and the software adapting to it. Android programming keeps moving activities off and on the stack as different screen layouts take immediate focus. The programmer includes a number of activities (only one can be active at a time), each with their own layout (the user interface). There's also the issue of screen sizes, where the programmer uses a "fragment" class to arrange widgets based on the available screen space.

Ubuntu has an overlay that rides on top of android, but doesn't use the device's hardware. That might be the closest you'll get to running puppy on an android device.

edit: Found this regarding touchscreen support:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchscreen
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PostPosted: Fri 21 Dec 2012, 14:04    Post subject:  
jpeps wrote:
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I did an elective at my local college on Android development, and learned exactly why I don't care for android. Wink

Linux programming all the way Cool


...great, unless you want to program your android device.


You wanna program for a Symbian device Twisted Evil (no offense to Symbian users, even I am curious about the abilities it may still have)

Android as a Platform is horrific when it comes down to developing for it. It acts in ways that make me think it want's to pretend it doesn't use Java, or can use any language, but the thing is bloody java to the core, and having the GUI source in XML and strings and the like is nice if you are doing development that is cross-platform and uses multiple languages, it's just Java.

Well that's my 2 cents.
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jpeps

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PostPosted: Fri 21 Dec 2012, 17:23    Post subject:  
NeroVance wrote:


Android as a Platform is horrific when it comes down to developing for it. It acts in ways that make me think it want's to pretend it doesn't use Java, or can use any language, but the thing is bloody java to the core, and having the GUI source in XML and strings and the like is nice if you are doing development that is cross-platform and uses multiple languages, it's just Java.


Understanding java is almost essential. Fortunately, there are a ton of excellent tutorials. Here's one I like using eclipse:

http://eclipsetutorial.sourceforge.net/totalbeginner.html

NeroVance: I don't know about taking one android course at a community college. I've never taken a computer course, but I've done a lot of coding. I find it enjoyable, but there are lots of levels.
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jpeps

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PostPosted: Sun 20 Jan 2013, 22:52    Post subject:  
Amazing...there's an android AIDE app, which is basically a complete android development environment. You can write apps right on the device itself....and it works.
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PostPosted: Sun 05 May 2013, 17:33    Post subject:  
NeroVance wrote:


Android as a Platform is horrific when it comes down to developing ....


Having finished an sqlite database app with 5 layout windows that imports, exports, edits and queries anything and everything with various clickable reports (all on my cellphone), I'd have to say that the solution to every imaginable obstacle was readily available via a google search. I'm impressed at just how sophisticated and available Android is for anyone at all interested (also completely enjoyable).
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