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simargl
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PostPosted: Sun 23 Dec 2012, 05:06    Post subject: Re: Timezone  
mavrothal wrote:
simargl wrote:

/etc/localtime is text file not symlink

Is there any reason for that or just an oversight?

I just changed to CET timezone, original file is from woof-code/rootfs-skeleton/etc/localtime.
Edit:
In attachment are documentation files for next release, three text files converted to pdf format.
I will make new release 12.12-1 when (if) problem with refreshing usb drives list in Thunar is fixed,
reported this in pup-volume-monitor-0.1.10 topic, still got no response. Plan is to make next version
when new stable gcc-4.8 package is added to archlinux repository, guess that's not very soon.
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feelsub

Joined: 20 Jun 2012
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PostPosted: Sun 23 Dec 2012, 11:47    Post subject:  
Super happy if can get access to Arch repository, but where is the puppy save feature when shutting down from USB key?
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simargl
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PostPosted: Sun 23 Dec 2012, 12:19    Post subject:  
feelsub wrote:
Super happy if can get access to Arch repository, but where is the puppy save feature when shutting down from USB key?

Hi, Savefile dialog on reboot is removed, to make one go to Setup --> Make personal savefile,
as location select one of your partitions. And yes it can access to Arch repository Wink
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smil99

Joined: 18 Aug 2007
Posts: 174
PostPosted: Mon 24 Dec 2012, 00:29    Post subject:  
Downloaded archpup-12.12 and started playing with it. Very snappy and very different from the other puppies on the block. The flawless integration with arch repos is legendary. My only problem ... cant start cups Sad ... so cant do any printing. I hope the printing issues would be addressed soon.
Thanks and cheers.
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simargl
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PostPosted: Mon 24 Dec 2012, 04:10    Post subject:  
Try with this:
in /root/.start add on top: ifconfig lo up
Then change ALL: LOCAL to ALL: ALL in /etc/hosts.allow.
Reboot and see what is output of:
netstat -nlp
ps -ef | grep cups
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oui

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Location: near Woof (Germany) :-) Acer Laptop emachines 2 GB RAM AMD64. franco-/germanophone, +/- anglophone
PostPosted: Mon 24 Dec 2012, 05:13    Post subject:  
Hi simargl

As I have the same problem, my answer:

Quote:
# netstat -nlp
Active Internet connections (only servers)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State PID/Program name
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:8000 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1519/didiwiki
Active UNIX domain sockets (only servers)
Proto RefCnt Flags Type State I-Node PID/Program name Path
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 3664 1394/cupsd /var/run/cups/cups.sock
unix 2 [ ACC ] SEQPACKET LISTENING 2338 789/udevd /dev/.udev/control
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 4404 1534/menu-cached /tmp/.menu-cached-:0-root
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 3996 1487/X @/tmp/.X11-unix/X0
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 3997 1487/X /tmp/.X11-unix/X0
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 4037 1496/dbus-daemon @/tmp/dbus-ANWZd1IJXD
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 3645 1396/pup-volume-mon /tmp/pup_volume_monitor_socket
[root@archpup ~]# ps -ef | grep cups
root 1394 1 0 10:04 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/cupsd -C /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
root 1557 1554 0 10:06 pts/0 00:00:00 grep cups


what I see at line no. 4:

didiwiki is clear started (and does!) as I do it also in .start !

how does cups start?

rgds
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smil99

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PostPosted: Mon 24 Dec 2012, 07:30    Post subject:  
Hi simargl,
Thanks for the quick response. Below are the outputs requested.
Quote:
[root@archpup ~]# netstat -nlp
Active Internet connections (only servers)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State PID/Program name

unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 2683 1543/cupsd /var/run/cups/cups.sock
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 4503 1789/X /tmp/.X11-unix/X0
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 3745 1548/pup-volume-mon /tmp/pup_volume_monitor_socket
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 3963 1806/dbus-daemon @/tmp/dbus-ixHHiHU9E1
unix 2 [ ACC ] SEQPACKET LISTENING 1961 807/udevd /run/udev/control
[root@archpup ~]#

[root@archpup ~]# ps -ef | grep cups
root 1543 1 0 12:22 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/cupsd -C /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
root 1872 1870 0 12:24 pts/1 00:00:00 grep cups
[root@archpup ~]#

Hope this helps.
Cheers.
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darkcity


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Location: near here
PostPosted: Mon 24 Dec 2012, 07:58    Post subject:  
I've posted how I got Frisbee working (sort of) in Archpup1212-
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=83264
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I've updating the SFS page on wiki, includes links to tools for messing with SFSs and PETs-
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/squashfs


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Is there anyway to get pacman to install new files to a different directory other than RootFS?

Would be useful for making extra SFSs - adding packages without stuffing savefile?
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smil99

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PostPosted: Mon 24 Dec 2012, 08:21    Post subject:  
Hi darkcity,
From simargl's documentation files for next release,
Quote:
arch2sfs has the same idea and functionality (as pet2sfs). Let's assume that you installed
gnumeric with pacman -Sf gnumeric. That package is installed including its
dependencies, and downloaded packages are stored in /var/cache/pacman/pkg.
Now you can change to cache directory and run arch2sfs gnumeric.
New sfs module gnumeric.sfs is created, so you can remove gnumeric withpacman -Rs gnumeric, and load this module to avoid using space in savefile.
Pacman will recognize converted packages as installed.

Hope this helps.
Cheers.
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simargl
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PostPosted: Mon 24 Dec 2012, 08:32    Post subject:  
oui, smil99:
From your output looks like there is same problem for you both: cupd service is running but it doesn't listen on default port 631. Try to search with google, seems like its common error. This is mine netstat output:
Quote:
[root@archpup ~]# netstat -nlp
Active Internet connections (only servers)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State PID/Program name
tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:631 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1323/cupsd
Active UNIX domain sockets (only servers)
Proto RefCnt Flags Type State I-Node PID/Program name Path
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 31826 1931/menu-cached /tmp/.menu-cached-:0-root
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 17240 1774/X /tmp/.X11-unix/X0
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 17239 1774/X @/tmp/.X11-unix/X0
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 17562 1787/dbus-daemon @/tmp/dbus-ApG64L5AjV
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 2690 1331/pup-volume-mon /tmp/pup_volume_monitor_socket
unix 2 [ ACC ] SEQPACKET LISTENING 1226 722/udevd /run/udev/control
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 17358 1808/dbus-daemon @/tmp/dbus-1V9MdJSwLs
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 2709 1323/cupsd /var/run/cups/cups.sock

darkcity:To install on different root directory this works,
Code:
pacman -S leafpad -r /mnt/home/data/Downloads --dbpath /var/lib/pacman -y -v

pacman will use its existing base in /var/lib/pacman, so no need for updating with pacman -Syu,
and installed package will be listed in /var/lib/pacman/local.
If you want to try arch2sfs script it's here https://bitbucket.org/simargl/archpup/raw/5cf47acff932d1657e64d9b21db029d76da3de93/arch-tools/usr/bin/arch2sfs
First copy, or move folder /var/cache/pacman/pkg outside of you savefile, then convert
all of your installed packages to single sfs module, with
Code:
 arch2sfs modulename.sfs
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simargl
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PostPosted: Mon 24 Dec 2012, 10:58    Post subject:  
... to continue previous post and creating sfs module. It is possible to only download packages
with all needed dependencies, but not to install them, using pacman -Sw. As some test I made
xfce sfs module, and you can do it if you want to with:
Code:
pacman -Sw xfce4-panel xfce4-settings xfce4-session xfwm4 xfdesktop

Now move folder /var/cache/pacman/pkg to /mnt/home, and inside that folder open terminal
and type arch2sfs xfce.
Load module xfce.sfs, then comment all 3 lines in /root/.xinitrc and add exec xfce4-session.
Edit:
Before you start first clean pacman cache with pacman -Scc
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PostPosted: Mon 24 Dec 2012, 12:35    Post subject:  
Hi simargl, many thanks for the instructions. I will have a play around with that. Looking at something like

1. pacman to directory
2. remove bloat
3. make sfs

but now its time to take a break

have a good'un Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Mon 24 Dec 2012, 19:35    Post subject:  
simargl, oui:
Made some progress with cups.
1. I added "ifconfig lo up" to top of /root/.start and "cupsd" to the bottom.
Also changed "ALL: LOCAL" to "ALL: ALL" in "/etc/hosts.allow"
2. Renamed "cups" to "cupsd" at "/etc/init.d"
3. After reboot, "netstat -nlp" gave the following:
Code:
[root@archpup ~]# netstat -nlp
Active Internet connections (only servers)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address           Foreign Address         State       PID/Program name   
tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:631           0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      21020/cupsd         
Active UNIX domain sockets (only servers)
Proto RefCnt Flags       Type       State         I-Node   PID/Program name     Path
unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     2820     1621/pup-volume-mon  /tmp/pup_volume_monitor_socket
unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     2862     1791/X               /tmp/.X11-unix/X0
unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     82038    21322/dbus-daemon    @/tmp/dbus-uwkgCDoiQQ
unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     2861     1791/X               @/tmp/.X11-unix/X0
unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     2852     1692/cupsd           /var/run/cups/cups.sock
unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     5957     7504/dbus-daemon     @/tmp/dbus-fcZOqvne2x
unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     13147    21020/cupsd          /var/run/cups/cups.sock
unix  2      [ ACC ]     SEQPACKET  LISTENING     1955     813/udevd            /run/udev/control
[root@archpup ~]#

which means cups is listening at the default port 631. However, localhost:631 gave "page not found" error.
4. I then reinstalled/ installed the following:
[root@archpup ~]# pacman -Sfd cups avahi ghostscript gsfonts gutenprint cups-pdf
5. Rebooting again, cups webpage appears however, I am unable to access other pages except http://localhost:631/help/. All others give
Code:
Internal Server Error
message.
Hope this helps.
Cheers.
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stifiling

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PostPosted: Mon 24 Dec 2012, 22:53    Post subject:  
anybody use teamviewer in wine? wonder why it doesn't wanna work. i've tried the default teamviewer with the integrated wine, about 5 different versions of wine, crossover, the wine.sfs for puppy.....that's the only wine app that i can't get to work.
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PostPosted: Tue 25 Dec 2012, 07:04    Post subject:  
hi Simargl

is there eventually possible that cupsd doesn't because of absence of password security? I know that cups doesn't work in other distributions without acceptation of root password!

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