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#441 Post by bark_bark_bark »

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@Jejy69: where is your lego indy avatar? I too am a fan of Indiana Jones.

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Is Lxpup based on Barry's Precise or pemasu's Precise?
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#442 Post by ASRI éducation »

bark_bark_bark wrote:...
Is Lxpup based on Barry's Precise or pemasu's Precise?
It's based on Barry's precise.

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#443 Post by peebee »

ASRI éducation wrote:
bark_bark_bark wrote:...
Is Lxpup based on Barry's Precise or pemasu's Precise?
It's based on Barry's precise.
Not quite...see post #1
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Based on Precise 5.4's Pemasu, so many fix, apps added, and better kernel.
i.e Upup Precise 54x3 (I think)....which is Pemasu's rebuild of Barry's Precise

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#444 Post by smil99 »

jejy69 wrote:
I have a good new ! The next Lxpup will have "apt-get", "aptitude", and Synaptic with all precise's PPA. .... Issues for now: Only some libs ( Apt thinks some libs are already installed ). But easily installable with Synaptic.
I hope those issues have been solved. Have been checking this thread almost everyday just to try this all new lxpup :)
Cheers

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the apt-get puppy precise test iso is here - french forum

#445 Post by nancy reagan »

smil99 wrote:jejy69 wrote:
I have a good new ! The next Lxpup will have "apt-get", "aptitude", and Synaptic with all precise's PPA. .... Issues for now: Only some libs ( Apt thinks some libs are already installed ). But easily installable with Synaptic.
I hope those issues have been solved. Have been checking this thread almost everyday just to try this all new lxpup :)
Cheers.

Ismail.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=82708

This apt-get TEST iso is here

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=82708

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#446 Post by smil99 »

nancy reagan wrote:
Thanks for the pointer. Just wondering why jejy69 didn't mention it here. :wink:
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Lxpup, multi desktop.

#447 Post by Billtoo »

I did a manual frugal install to the hard drive.

VIDEO REPORT: RetroPrecise Puppy, version 5.4.2
Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF108 Board - 1071v0p1 Chip Rev
Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe
Drivers requested to be loaded: vesa nvidia nvidia
Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nvidia
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 extmod glx kbd mouse ramdac record wfb
Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 3840x1080 pixels (1049x292 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

I used synaptic to install several applications and it worked well,
vlc must be run as spot but it works fine.
Nice!
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Possible causes of silence

#448 Post by mikeslr »

Hi smil99,

A life-time ago, when I was in middle-school, it had a "Survey Foreign Languages" course. Convinced at the time I was destined for the sciences I paid attention to, and later took courses in, Latin and German. But during the French and Spanish components I paid more attention to the great sound I could get quietly drumming on my desk. Hindsight may be "best", but is of no practical value.
Slightly more valuable is Google-Translate. And the French thread Nancy Reagan noted was only one page in length. So I used google-translate to work thru the thread. Assuming that I got the gist, despite the google machine's idiotic botching of one language's idiomatic expressions into another's, the following may be the reasons for jejy69's silence.
(a) Jejy69 specifically noted he was currently devoting his time to studying for exams. We forget, he is only in his late teens.
(b) It is the Holiday Season. I'm not certain what that means in France, but my impression is that Europeans have more vacation time which they spend with family and friends, not as yet having been converted to the belief that the sole purpose of human existence is to participate in the game of economics.
(c) Despite the thread's brevity, a couple of the posters took the occasion to criticize his work either because it hadn't resulted in a perfect operating system or because it included apt-get which they hated. Regarding the latter complaint, I guess language is not the only impediment to grasping the concept "choice." Hopefully, that failure is not now endemic in the country which justifiably considers itself a progenitor of Democracy. There can be no Liberte' without choice.
As to the former, it sparked a vision of an eminently justifiable version of Hell. Two groups are at the Pearly Gates. One group enters. The other remains outside for all eternity suffering with the envy of the those within. The difference between the groups is that the first made the effort to, themselves, open the door. Vive Doacracy.

Hopefully, despite his youth, jejy69 has developed a thick-skin and will soon continue to pursue his inspiration which this Forum so greatly appreciates.

And to jejy69, and to all Puppy Linux Fans, Joyeux Noël et une Bonne Année avoir et prospère.

mikesLr

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#449 Post by playdayz »

With Lxpup Jejy69 is doing exactly what I would like to be able to do, if I could: a Puppy derivative based on one of the official Puppies, with a slightly more modern look and feel to the desktop. And then it gets really good: alternate desktops already configured--Mate, Cinnamon, XFCE, KDE3 and 4. With just Lxpup and a download people can use all or any of the major Linux desktops--and switch between them easily. Wow! Plus the web site is great. And, another thing, there is easily installable software--click and go. What a fine package. IMHO newcomers to Puppy can have a great time exploring Linux with all the advantages of small fast fun Puppy--old timers too :)

Happy Christmas everyone.

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#450 Post by peebee »

playdayz wrote:With Lxpup Jejy69 is doing exactly what I would like to be able to do, if I could: a Puppy derivative based on one of the official Puppies, with a slightly more modern look and feel to the desktop. And then it gets really good: alternate desktops already configured--Mate, Cinnamon, XFCE, KDE3 and 4. With just Lxpup and a download people can use all or any of the major Linux desktops--and switch between them easily. Wow! Plus the web site is great. And, another thing, there is easily installable software--click and go. What a fine package. IMHO newcomers to Puppy can have a great time exploring Linux with all the advantages of small fast fun Puppy--old timers too :)

Happy Christmas everyone.
Hi Larry

Great to hear from you again - I really hope your re-appearance in Puppydom means that things have settled down for the better in your personal situation.

I echo your words of wisdom - Jeyjy69 has done a great job with Lxpup and with his website - lets hope his academic priorities continue to leave a bit of time for further Puppy innovations - and for support to Lxpup.

With All Best Wishes for Christmas and a Happy, Healthy and Peaceful 2013
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#451 Post by PsyBaba »

I stumbled upon Puppy back in 2006 and since then I strugled many times to switch over and use it as my main distro. But without a desktop environment everything was so "disconnected" that I couldn't get a smooth workflow. I said I would wait until puppy "matures" to the point it will offer a lightweight desktop environment (I hoped for LXDE). And finnaly here is what I (and obviously also others) was waiting for...
a Puppy derivative based on one of the official Puppies, with a slightly more modern look and feel to the desktop.
I havent tested it thoughtfully, but as far as I've seen it has what I need :)
I really hope this derivate will be a long term update and will not vanish one day, because it's a real masterpiece!

On page 12 I already saw a request to include SpaceFM. I was wondering how hard would it be to make it the default FM, so folders would open in it by derault and MIME types would work and mounted volumes would show up like in PCmanFM? SpaceFM is a really more advanced program than PCmanFM, even if you use it as a single panel FM ;)

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#452 Post by Eyes-Only »

Hi PsyBaba,

Actually, it's not all that difficult to do really. There used to be an updated .pet around here somewhere ( perhaps in this thread? - I've been absent for 3 months so please bear with me? ) and all one needed to do was to download the file, click to install, and once that was accompplished you could go into "/root/.config/openbox" and open the file "rc.xml" in something like "geany".

Once you've done that use the search feature to find "pcmanfm" and where it sets this file manager as the default file manager. Change the parameter over to "spacefm" instead and I believe this has made SpaceFM your file manager of choice.

I went so far as to even kill the start up of pcmanfm for the desktop ( in another pup of Jejy's - "CheckMate" - essentially the same thing as "LXpup" ) and switched it over for the far-superiour SpaceFM. I just had to change a few more lines elsewhere to start SpaceFM over PCmanFM, lines which I fail to recall at this precise moment, sorry.

But I do hope this has helped in some small way PsyBaba?

Amicalement/Cheers,

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#453 Post by PsyBaba »

Thanks, pal!

I will check it out and see how far I can get.

Perhaps someone could write a script like "choose your default browser" but instead it would be "choose your default FM", that would change all the necessary settings. Or it could be bundlet into .pet file that is distributing the FM of choice, so at installation it would ask if you want to make it the default FM... just a few ideas :wink:

But as far SpaceFM is superior it could be also included as the default FM 8)

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#454 Post by playdayz »

Hello my great and good friend Eyes-Only. I also have been absent and this is only a one-off, but all the best of the season to you and your wife.

I should have known we would meet in Lxpup, eh, ever since K-Meleon we have been twins separated at birth ;-)

For anyone interested here is Google Chrome 23 for Lxpup--it is more recent and more tailored for Lxpup than the one on the Lxpup website
http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/Googl ... -Lxpup.pet
For anyone who asks why ;-) Chrome is the fastest and it is the only browser that includes the current flashplayer (as I understand it anyway). I have done my best to deactivate the "phone home features."

The Audacious on the Lxpup website does not make a menu entry, but if one edits /usr/share/applications/Audacious and changes the Categories to AudioVideo and restarts X it will make a menu entry. Thanks for the latest Audacious btw. Easy access to the latest greatest software is one reason I like Lxpup.

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#455 Post by Eyes-Only »

WOW! Howdy Playdayz!

LOL! Yes sirree! Twins separated @ birth are we, eh? :wink: :D I sure indeed had a great laugh out of that one!

In all seriousness tho my brother, it's great to be back. I missed this place so very much for the mental stimulation that it gave me and - foremost of all - the wonderful friendships I'd formed here. ( And all of you know very well just who you are of course. :) ) I truly missed you and Jejy.

Thanks for the season's well-wishes Playdayz and right back at you for this Xmas and for 2013. I likewise hope that everyone is in the very best of health possible under your roof Larry!

Cheers All,

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#456 Post by xstylezx »

Hello, great release! I've read through the whole thread and this puplet is moving along nicely. I have a few questions/concerns to ask about

Where is the puplet dev at, he seems to be missing for a bit, though it is holiday seasons? I just want to make sure this puplet is actively being updated and will be for some time.

I'm having video thumbnail issues also, but I see that's to be fixed in the next release.

This is an issue I've had with a couple of puplets, but managed to get it finally working on carolina. Installing Nvidia driver eventually appears to work and function fine, but after a reboot, or sometime within the next few reboots something corrupts from adding Nvidia driver and I can't get to desktop at all. Even after using xorgwizard and trying nouveau and the very basic driver it will just not load up xwin after the Nvidia fail.

That means I have to start fresh every time and as you can imagine that is quite a headache. I got it to work in carolina, but I'm not sure if that was luck or it was because I installed the dev sfs and kernel source sfs on carolina. After I installed the dev sfs and kernel source sfs on carolina and then used the nvidia driver pet it finally quit screwing up on me after reboots.

The Nvidia driver provided from lxpup is version wise the same I believe as the one I got to work on carolina. I checked my card and it is supported, im fairly certain. I'm on nvidia 6150 se. Not a great card but works fine using proprietary Nvidia driver with other distros and puplets as well. Is it a possibility I need the dev and kernel source sfs to get it working on lxpup as well?

If anyone has any ideas or tips to get Nvidia working for me I'm all ears?

Also, if there is a easy and fast way to back up my lxpup install so i can tinker with this Nvidia stuff without screwing up my whole install I'd love to know??

I should mention im using lxpup from a usb thumb drive. It is not installed on computer or usb though, booting from savefiles.

Thanks in advance for any and all help, it's appreciated! Also thanks for the great puplet!

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#457 Post by Jejy69 »

Hello !!

All best wishes for this year 2013 ! Image

If you want to try an apt-get Puppy, the ISO is here :http://sourceforge.net/projects/checkma ... o/download
/!\ Test only, since apt-get will not be included in the next version.

I will install all Gstreamer plugins to get thumbnails in all Desktop environments.

I do not know what to do new this time, do you have any ideas, opinions please ?

Maybe change Puppy base ? Theming ? Applications ...

Have a nice day.

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Bonne annee a toi

#458 Post by nancy reagan »

Jejy69 wrote:Hello !!

All best wishes for this year 2013 ! Image

If you want to try an apt-get Puppy, the ISO is here :http://sourceforge.net/projects/checkma ... o/download
/!\ Test only, since apt-get will not be included in the next version.

I will install all Gstreamer plugins to get thumbnails in all Desktop environments.

I do not know what to do new this time, do you have any ideas, opinions please ?

Maybe change Puppy base ? Theming ? Applications ...

Have a nice day.
Bonsoir Jejy,

Bonne annee a toi aussi.

I am not a tweaker: seulement un wannabee user.

I just wanted to go play with your apt-get iso. But first I wanted to make a few different "save files" with Shinobar's pupsaveconfig (for I don't know how to make pets out of the apt-gets) as I do not want to save -every- sessions and with BK's, once you've save a session, it will save -every- next session. However, Shino's pet does not seem te work here, and I will try to live with that.

As my French is very bad, so far I did not post in your topic, where I just stumbled by incidence. So why not post it in the other forums and or project forum.

I hope you will promote your apt-get debi installer synaptic package manager.

Even if it might not be perfect, I would think it a great loss if you dropped it. :cry:

Maybe, and therefore I am not a tweaker, programmer, I hardly understand what people here are talking about here, peut-etre il est tres difficile de faire an iso comme ca ?; que dommage.

Notamment, je suis dans ton apt-get iso. C'est a peu pres 50 ans passees que j'avait francais a l'ecole, alors me manque beaucoup des mots et expressions.

If you don't know what to do this time I cannot understand why not workout your apt-get iso ?

Neamoins je va jouer avec l'iso.

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#459 Post by xstylezx »

Jejy69 wrote:Hello !!

All best wishes for this year 2013 ! Image

If you want to try an apt-get Puppy, the ISO is here :http://sourceforge.net/projects/checkma ... o/download
/!\ Test only, since apt-get will not be included in the next version.

I will install all Gstreamer plugins to get thumbnails in all Desktop environments.

I do not know what to do new this time, do you have any ideas, opinions please ?

Maybe change Puppy base ? Theming ? Applications ...

Have a nice day.
I would love to see you keep working on apt-get and synaptic and of course the video thumbnails for lxde. I haven't had the time to test apt-get iso yet, but will asap.

Other than those items, maybe just keeping certain programs and packages up to date as possible. Like browsers and the like. I'm sure others will chime in with ideas as well :)

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#460 Post by Eyes-Only »

Hi Jejy!

I too would also hope that you would continue to work on an apt-get/synaptic LXpup. It has been the dream of MANY A DEV to be able to incorporate either of the two - or both - into Puppy Linux simply for the sheer size of the software that would then be available to us with merely a simple click of the mouse button. Imagine that Jejy! It would be much like magic, would it not?! 8)

I believe the last person to obtain any measure of sucess was the dev "sickgut"? I could be wrong. You would have to search the forums to find out. His one problem was the inability to make a certain type of file containing all the default software in Puppy - especially bothersome because of how the software changes between versions as well as between distros upon which Puppy becomes based upon, plus not to mention software that people may have added from the start of using their version of Puppy and the install of apt-get/synaptic. :(

I, however, had rather good results with his work. I was unable to use synaptic to install major things - say like - the Gnome or KDE desktop environments. Yet I did have limited sucess, if memory serves me correctly, installing such window managers as IceWM, Flux/Blackbox, and even LXDE, all without corrupting my Puppy frugal or hard drive installs. I would even have sucess with assorted programmes as well.

Unfortunately, at the moment, I can't recall exactly how I did this. I believe I was able to achieve this great feat once sickgut began "pinning" various important lib files which simply could not be over-written without risking a borked Puppy install. I think in the end this was how he managed to achieve his form of limited magic.

Still though, having a completely operational apt-get or synaptic in Puppy would be a dream come true! Then we could download a basic bare-bones Puppy with a fully functional on-board synaptic, and then truly build "the Puppy of our dreams." Regretfully, this seems to have proven as elusive as that "Fountain of Youth". :(

Toutefois mon chum: I've downloaded what you've offered here and as soon as I'm able I plan on playing around with it, d'accord? For the time being however, I'm still working on getting my computer back up to a 100% pre-September working order. Because of its sheer versatility and ease of use ( not to mention all those "made-to-order" desktop environments! ) I've decided to centre my computer around LXpup as its "Default System". You've made here a-top BarryK's Puppy the most superb Linux OS I've ever managed to use in the past 8 or more years since my coming over from Windows 98se. Congratulations! You're going to go VERY FAR in this world if you continue onward with this calibre of workmanship in your life. Trust me.

A la prochaine fois mon bon chum! Vive LXpup!

Amicalement/Cheers,

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