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greengeek

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Jan 2013, 05:38    Post_subject:  pUPnGO 2012 Plus Extras  

I have been trialling pUPnGO2012 and found it very quick and trim, and wanted to add in some extra functionality, but not too many programs all at once. I didn't want to burden goingnuts original forum topic with my remaster efforts so I will be posting them here in the first four posts.

Please note that my efforts are quite different from the efficient work done by goingnuts - I have accidentally added a lot of extra fat (even though I am trying to keep things small and fast). I just don't know how to do the gtk thing that goingnuts does. Despite that I hope you can find something useful here:

Original topic here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=78941

goingnuts made available an sns-retro pet so I have added that and uploaded the iso.

Available here:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/u90cj8sqzjib7n3/pngo2012snsretro.iso

The next 3 posts will include some other remasters of pupngo for different purposes too.
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PostPosted: Fri 04 Jan 2013, 05:40    Post_subject:  

Text, Wordprocessing and Office

Ok, my next effort is not really in the pUPnGO mould (because it is huge as a result of having the full Freeoffice2012 suite and lots of language files that I decided to leave in in case they were useful to someone), but anyway, here is an iso of pUPnGO2012 with Freeoffice2012 installed

http://www.mediafire.com/file/8pzscvv8jmimmi6/pngo2012Freeoffice.iso

Why Freeoffice2012?
- It seems really fast (productivity boost!)
- Does not need Java (security benefit). (LibreOffice seems to need Java - which I don't feel secure using)
- It can export to pdf
- It is apparently very good with Msoft formats (I have found that Abiword seems to have a buggy display so I needed a lightweight but capable alternative)
- It can read docx files, and is able to edit them, but not save in the docx format. (so if someone sends you a docx you can read and modify, but have to send back as a doc or pdf etc). If you need to save in docx format you will need the paid version of Softmaker Office 2012

Some notes:
-In order to get Freeoffice going it is necessary to give it 3 bits of information: The name that you registered with Softmaker (I guess it doesn't have to be your real name, but the program key gets generated from this name and from the email address you supply so you have to keep a record of this info), your email address, and the unique key that Softmaker generates when you register with them. (I have found them to be non-intrusive so I think it is worth registering with them in order to get the functions of Freeoffice)
- This iso has the xorg pet installed because without xorg running Freeoffice gives an "Xrender initialise" error.
- At boot time Xorg is not running so it is necessary to "shutdown to prompt", then type "xorgwizard", select xorg settings as appropriate, then type "xwin". It seemed safer to have X not starting automatically at this stage (I have to learn how best to set that up...). See notes in next posts re how to get xorg resolution corrrectly set up if you have issues.
- I've got some finetuning to do (don't know what incorrect settings I may have left in there - the desktop drive icons seem out of position)

I may make another version of this iso without the planmaker or presentations software, just to reduce size.

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Textmaker2012
This iso uses the Textmaker portion of Freeoffice2012 (not including Planmaker or Presentations).
- It has the same benefits and xorg requirements mentioned in Freeoffice post above.
- Great for creating pdfs on a lightweight machine!
- Great for reading docx.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/mg9von7dds51ps9/pngo2012+sns+xorg+TM2012.iso

(I have noticed that Textmaker runs slowly on one of my machines when running from LiveCD, so if you have that problem I recommend testing from an installed setup)

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Textmaker2002:
I have uploaded an iso containing pupngo2012 plus Textmaker2002 which is the older forerunner of the word processor used in Freeoffice. It does not require registration (it provides a "skip registration" button) and has the following attributes:
- Textmaker2002 is very quick to load and run
- Is the wordprocessor only - not the full suite like Freeoffice
- Does not require xorg (I might also make an xorg version)
- Is good with Microsoft .rtf and .doc formats which are really all I used Abiword for anyway.
- Does not understand docx.
- Does not export to pdf.

Just might be useful for some older machines that have little cpu power, or for more modern machines with impatient owners (like me).

Available here:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ua8jd5f3kx34pa6/pngo2012Textmaker2002.iso
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PostPosted: Fri 04 Jan 2013, 05:41    Post_subject:  

This is the basic pupngo2012 plus goingnuts xorg pet added in:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/3putxzj1gl6oayz/pngo2012Xorg.iso

It still is not set up to start Xorg during boot, so after boot it is necessary to shutdown to prompt, type "xorgwizard", select resolution as appropriate, then type "xwin"

If the desktop background doesnt look right at your resolution use mtpaint to open file /usr/share/images/default.png and scale it to the right size.

If the xorg wizard doesn't get the correct/best resolution for your screen Starhawk has noted a method for getting xorg to lock in the correct value(s) here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=83550&start=19

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Jan 2013, 05:41    Post_subject:  

Browsing related

I have uploaded an iso containing the basic pupngo2012 plus the sns pet, plus the "qtweb" browser. This won't be suitable for Facebooking or Youtubing, but all I wanted was something a bit more capable than Dillo, and including the ability to access https sites (ssl) so I could check my emails.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ida53dbecium4pc/pngo2012+sns+qtbrowse.iso
(does not contain xorg)

This next iso does contain xorg:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/36b3ok0fywx3xxa/pngo2012+sns+qtbrowse+xorg.iso
Please see the notes in posts above re how to get xorg started (is not set up to autostart at boot time), and for a link to starhawks note about forcing xorg to get the correct resolution setting.

Now added freeoffice to the qtbrowse version (and also included "mp" text editor to get past the gtk copy/paste issue with beaver):
http://www.mediafire.com/file/j6gv0yo4d8wdpaw/pngo2012+sns+xorg+qtbrowse+freeoffice.iso
(Have also improved the qtbrowser problem where it was displaying annoying crosses where they shouldn't be)

Note: qtweb browser seems to run pretty well, but in pupngo it has a couple of display oddities which I havent sorted yet. Hopefully I will be able to track down what is causing it, but it doesn't stop it being useful anyway.

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Jan 2013, 13:17    Post_subject:  

I'll watch this thread -- when I see an Xorg Pet (or that Xfb... thing), I'll burn a CD and unearth the CPi for testing.

Can't do much if the screen's all pink with every other line missing.

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Jan 2013, 18:19    Post_subject:  

@greengeek

your build is the 1000th puppy iso in my collection

not much of an accolade but.............!

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Jan 2013, 18:59    Post_subject:  

I see you have two with Xorg in them Very Happy

One question -- I assume FreeOffice is, er, free... that one simply has to register with Softmaker, but there is no money involved? If so, that's the one I'll try first on the CPi.

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Jan 2013, 19:09    Post_subject:  

starhawk wrote:
One question -- I assume FreeOffice is, er, free... that one simply has to register with Softmaker, but there is no money involved? If so, that's the one I'll try first on the CPi.
Yes, no cost for the Freeoffice suite. I guess their thinking is that users of the free suite might eventually purchase the Softmaker Office 2012 suite which can also save in docx format. I'm pretty happy with the Freeoffice - it reads docx and does all I want (especially the export to pdf function) and seems real quick. It'll be interesting to see if it is even lighter when I strip out the planmaker (xls) and presentations (ppt) stuff and just use it for documents.
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PostPosted: Fri 04 Jan 2013, 19:12    Post_subject:  

ally wrote:
your build is the 1000th puppy iso in my collection
not much of an accolade but.............!
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Wow, thats quite a collection! I must have 200 or so and I thought I was doing well. Being 1000th is a pretty special honour. I'll take the accolade!
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PostPosted: Fri 04 Jan 2013, 19:35    Post_subject:  

I'm somewhere around a hundred. 99 at last count but I can't remember if I've downloaded any since... IIRC this pUPnGO (FreeOffice+Xorg) will be #100 for me.

...ally, I didn't realize there WERE a thousand Puppies! I always assumed the count was somewhere around 250-300 or so...

I'm going to guess you must have some really old stuff in there, as well as (almost literally) everything that's ever been on this forum?

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Jan 2013, 21:15    Post_subject:  

hey starhawk

it started quite innocently and them became a bit of an addiction........spent WAY to long trawling and my ISP has made a few bucks from the process!

it really came to a head when I was trying to find all of the (very excellent) puppeee builds for my eeepc

had to use the wayback machine for many and a some builds like eeetiger just vanished which I thought was a shame, so, I just started collecting them for posterity

I am out of work due to a long standing illness but hope to be able to host them all in the future (if/when) I get better

attached is the current list in gnumeric for anyone interested

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ps - I am still humbled and amazed by the skills and selfishness of those that contribute - wish I had the abilities necessary
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PostPosted: Fri 04 Jan 2013, 22:10    Post_subject:  

I'm sure that's quite a list, but I'm on a closed-source OS at the moment which I don't think supports Gnumeric Embarassed I'm still only using Puppy recreationally.

Could you put that file up as a Libreoffice spreadsheet (or compatible)?

Also, pure nosiness at work here: would you mind telling what illness(es) you have?

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Jan 2013, 22:14    Post_subject:  

hey starhawk

I have CFS/ME (Myalgic Encephalopathy) and Fibromyalgia and am now having to walk with the aid of a stick (am 44)

the worst thing is my often inability to mentally process when tired and speech goes wonky

I was working in health care before having to admit defeat and some days just tying my shoelaces would be considered an achievement

it sucks



follows..............
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PostPosted: Fri 04 Jan 2013, 22:49    Post_subject:  

I'm familiar with F/CFS. See here, about 2/3 of the way down -- http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=83422&start=15

Thanks for the file, downloading now.

EDIT: [docbrown]GREAT SCOTT!![/docbrown] That's a LOT of Puppies! You've got a license for all that? Very Happy just kidding.

Here's my collection, not nearly as long... I really like jemimah's Puppeee series; if you have a bunch (I've the memory of a sieve so I can't remember from that great whacking list), AND you're in the States, I might be interested in all the ISOs you have of those on a DVD-R or two... please no +R/RW media; I don't have a drive in the house can read it.

*ahem* List attached.
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Jan 2013, 09:17    Post_subject:  

am in the uk but happy to post discs on

pm details (which builds and address)

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ps - finding extras in your list!!
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