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pemasu


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PostPosted: Sat 12 Jan 2013, 18:44    Post_subject:  Upup Precise 3.7.2 with kernel 3.7.2, no pae
Sub_title: Latest woof at the present used.
 

Upup Precise 3.7.2 has been uploaded. This Precise Puppy based, enhanced version, uses 3.7.2 kernel. It does not have pae kernel, basic i686 for compatibility with older hardware.

Usual large device support. This is first 3.7 kernel trial, so surprises are expected. It behaves with my short tests. This is the second compile of the kernel using 3.7.2 version, so it has gone through some usage.

Firmware handling, graphics and so on needs user feedback.

For LateAdopter, this kernel has msr and cpuiid support, as modules. Happy low level tuning.

SMB2 support for cifs has been included. It might have some benefit with Windows 7 shares. I dont know if the mount syntax needs any new parameters.

Otherwise this build is about same as Upup Precise 5.4.X.7, so read announcement post of that version.

Download link: http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/UpupPrecise/UpupPrecise372/

Kernel sources: http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/Kernel_sources/kernel-3.7.2-upup/

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majorfoo

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PostPosted: Sat 12 Jan 2013, 19:29    Post_subject:  

Just d/l and booted from live cd.

Auto connected to internet.

Installed firewall state using quickpet
Installed Abiword 2.90.dpup.pet - problem with abiword 2.86 - did not open to a full screen. 2.90 works much better

Looking good so far. Good job!

Computer is HP Pentium 4, 2.8 ghz cpu, 2gb memory
Intel 82865 graphics controller
Intel 82562 Ethernet card
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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Sat 12 Jan 2013, 20:03    Post_subject: Re: Upup Precise 3.7.2 with kernel 3.7.2, no pae
Sub_title: Latest woof at the present used.
 

pemasu wrote:
SMB2 support for cifs has been included. It might have some benefit with Windows 7 shares. I dont know if the mount syntax needs any new parameters.

I ran a few quick tests with YASSM and it worked fine.
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davids45


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PostPosted: Sat 12 Jan 2013, 23:19    Post_subject:  

G'day pemasu,

Another happy little Vegemite here with Upup Precise-3.7.2.

Frugal is running well with my sfss, loading .pets, and has had no graphics problem (radeon HD5450 card, 1600x900 LED monitor).

Cannot tell any difference between Precise-5.4X7pae (have this in Full and Frugal) and Precise-3.7.2 (non-pae).

Will try a Full Precise-3.7.2 next.

Thanks for all this, just before you start your "two-man working".

David S.
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sszindian


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PostPosted: Sun 13 Jan 2013, 01:48    Post_subject: Update  

The 'Update Procedure' is not working correctly for frugal installs!

3.7.2 auto updates your frugal install without a problem (and all automatically), in fact it retains all of your changes (that is great) but... after a shutdown and a reboot from the HDD, it presents you with the features (type enter to update or any key to copy to ram etc) it normally would have done this when originally booting from the 3.7.2 disk now... it won't allow you to use your new updated savefile.

Other than that (so far) 3.7.2 'does work' on an old IBM T22 Thinkpad with 256MB ram... and seems to do it very well!

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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Sun 13 Jan 2013, 01:54    Post_subject: Upup Precise 3.7.2 with kernel 3.7.2, no pae  

I did a manual frugal install to a usb 3.0 hard drive.

VIDEO REPORT: Upup Precise, version 3.7.2
Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF108 Board - 1071v1p1 Chip Rev
Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
24
24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe
Drivers requested to be loaded: nvidia fbdev vesa
Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nvidia
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 extmod glx kbd mouse ramdac record wfb
Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 3840x1080 pixels (1049x292 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes
OpenGL
Vendor NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer GeForce GT 430/PCIe/SSE2
Version 4.3.0 NVIDIA 313.09
Direct Rendering Yes
Ralink corp. RT5390 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe
I installed firefox 18 from ppm.
That's it so far, no problems.
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davids45


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PostPosted: Sun 13 Jan 2013, 04:14    Post_subject: gs version 8.64 problem
Sub_title: switched to 9.05
 

G'day pemasu,

I have a Full Upup Precise-3.7.2 running with all my usual pets and links working.

Just a small observation. I noticed this Precise has ghostscript-8.64 which has always failed for me when I try to print O-maps on my fujixerox colour laser (using wine/Ocad and any Pup).

You have an older(?) gs version in Precise-54x7 which I have found to be OK with wine printing so I did not bother replacing gs-8.64 with gs-9.05 in 54X7.

Thanks again for these very nice Pups.

David S.
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Sun 13 Jan 2013, 04:30    Post_subject:  

davids45. I should have same Barry Kauler`s ghostscript package as he uses in Precise Puppy. There is no Ubuntu Precise Pangolin ghostscript packages used in his or in mine builds:

ghostscript-8.15.4-q1.pet has been used in all these builds.

From Precise Puppy:
no||ghostscript,libgs9,ghostscript-cups,libgs-dev|exe,dev,doc,nls| #TODO needs more pkgs
yes|ghostscript||exe,dev,doc,nls

And from my DISTRO_SPECS:
no|ghostscript|ghostscript,libgs9,ghostscript-cups,libgs-dev|exe,dev,doc,nls| #TODO needs more pkgs
yes|ghostscript||exe,dev,doc,nls

Both uses puppy pet ( the same one), not ubuntu .debs.

In my tests I added one package more than Barry: ghostcript package, but I think it still had problems. So I retained to what Barry used, ie his ghostscript pet. I didnt continue the bug hunting.

If there is real need, the experimenting can continue....

The reason. Ghostscript related stuff has been splitted to several smaller packages, there is still missing stuff, and I dont know what else is absolutely needed, probably libgs9-common and probably other packages. The total size would grow much bigger than Barry`s pet provides.

The same goes with cups....

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charlie6


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PostPosted: Sun 13 Jan 2013, 04:34    Post_subject:  

Hi Pemasu,
Shocked waaaaôôôôw ... ===> no..! i can't resist ..! i must d/l and run it ...

Wink thanks Pemasu !
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James C


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PostPosted: Sun 13 Jan 2013, 05:08    Post_subject:  

Quick live run on the semi-old Athlon XP box ........ everything looks good.


# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Upup Precise, version 3.7.2

Chip description:
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1440x900
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
1370 frames in 5.0 seconds = 273.899 FPS
1922 frames in 5.0 seconds = 384.248 FPS
1941 frames in 5.0 seconds = 388.107 FPS
1960 frames in 5.0 seconds = 391.890 FPS
1966 frames in 5.0 seconds = 393.043 FPS
1914 frames in 5.0 seconds = 382.719 FPS

Using "nouveau".

VGA compatible controller : NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])

Will try on newer Nvidia and Intel a bit later....... no troubles expected.

Thanks for the non-pae build....... now there is a version of Precise I'll actually install. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun 13 Jan 2013, 05:33    Post_subject: firefox18.pet install with Seamonkey present  

Hi,
Firefox18.pet from pemasu's upup repo assumes an earlier version of firefox to already have been installed (see inside its pinstall.sh file).
Upup Precise comes standard with Seamonkey in it.
So Seamonkey keeps being installed even if Firefox's pet is installed.
If wanting to remove Seamonkey, one has to do it manually.
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Sun 13 Jan 2013, 06:10    Post_subject:  

Charlie6. I wonder what I have uploaded. The firefox-18 which was meant to be there didnt have pinstall.sh script at all. Only puninstall.sh.

That firefox pet has been created using Tman`s technique and it was provided by 666philb. I did try to upload it for compatilibity. In the future, it might be possible that quickpet uses upup repo. So...I tried to upload quickpet offerings to the upup repo, instead of need to use hosting services.

Firefox-18.pet had flaw. It didnt create firefox symlink to the /usr/bin. Fixed now. It asks if Firefox will be the defaultbrowser and updates /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser if wanted.

It does not presume that Firefox has been previously installed.

Maybe I did upload wrong Firefox pet. I just dont understand how.
Anyway....Firefox-18.pet has been updated in upup repo.

I am not much gonna use time with browser initialization setups and scripts. Browsers comes and goes. The initialization scripts...if complicated tend to fail at some time, when the script update changes to correspond the newer version fails.
There is browsers for everybodys liking. And I presume almost everybody know how to update the browser to defaultbrowser. It is about first task to do. At least about first task to learn.

But I fixed now the setup script for Firefox.

There is canonical Firefox-18 in ubuntu repos. Just use PPM. It wont autoupdate, I believe.

About removing Seamonkey. Not much use to do that. It is still there as whiteouted files. Just remove DOT.desktop file and run fixmenus and jwm -reload. And it is as much away by that manouver.

I think that removing base sfs contained stuff is useful only if you remaster the build and really remove apps.
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PostPosted: Sun 13 Jan 2013, 06:20    Post_subject:  

Hi Pemasu

All looking good here...

I've checked:

Broadcom WL
PNetHood to Puppy Samba Share
/root/Network to Puppy Samba Share
Chromium25 from sfs

all AOK

Cheers
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Sun 13 Jan 2013, 06:37    Post_subject:  

Quote:
Thanks for the non-pae build....... now there is a version of Precise I'll actually install.


Yeah. I did combine my desire to compile kernel and also offer latest kernel for non pae kernel puppy users. There has been a lot development in graphics kernel modules and also wireless drivers have gone through many bug fixes.

There has been a lot problems with both of them with 3.2.X kernel.
I dont know if this bleeding edge kernel is really any better, but there is chance that some puppy users will benefit from it.

And it is fun to experiment with newer kernel.
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James C


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PostPosted: Sun 13 Jan 2013, 06:47    Post_subject:  

I've been trying

Code:
$ uname -r 
3.7-1.towo-siduction-686


in both Testing (Wheezy) and Unstable (Sid) for a while..... seems like they made lots of improvements.
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