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puppy_apprentice


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PostPosted: Fri 11 Jan 2013, 16:20    Post_subject:  

ICPUG wrote:
won't nofstab leave it in a state where you cannot do anything with the drives? They are not just unmounted - they are unavailable to mount at a later time should you desire until you go through the process manually. I don't know - I am asking.


yep u r right, u can do it later manuall only (or maybe there is a somekind of gui app that will do it - eg. "find partitions" that will make fstab file without rebooting, but i don't know)

for nooby:
i think that there is no boot command in knopix that doesen't mount all partitions - Knoppix always works like that

why this guy don't want to have mounted partitions?
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PostPosted: Fri 11 Jan 2013, 17:52    Post_subject:  

Oh is it that hard? Much appreciated you two cared about my question
No wonder him asked around it is not easy to find a solution then
and that guy knows way more than me about linux.

Here is what he wrote
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I'm trying to run LibreOffice without being connected to anything -- internet, hard disk, etc -- for security reasons. I found a live disc distribution which allows that, Lightweight Portable Security. However, it uses an outdated version of OpenOffice.org. I would prefer a disc with a current version of LibreOffice. Lightweight Portable Security also does not work with ext4 media. I have to format all my storage as FAT32 or NTFS. Not ideal at all.

I tried disabling all hardware during the Knoppix boot but it still insists on mounting my hard disk. Knoppix does work with ext4 media, however.


End of quote so now you know.

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PostPosted: Mon 14 Jan 2013, 23:26    Post_subject:  

Just installed Vector 7 64bit xfce. Very different from Vector 7 gold . Runs good and seems fast which is unusual today except for Puppy.
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ICPUG

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Jan 2013, 09:16    Post_subject:  

Nooby,

It looks like you provided the right solution after all. I interpret the request from your correspondent as wanting to isolate himself completely from anything other than his Live CD. I do wonder where he stores his creations from LibreOffice, maybe on a USB stick.
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PostPosted: Tue 15 Jan 2013, 12:22    Post_subject:  

SolusOS 2 Alpha-6.......just released.Gnome 3 that I don't mind using. Smile

Looks very solid for an alpha release.

http://solusos.com/
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Colonel Panic


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PostPosted: Tue 15 Jan 2013, 14:35    Post_subject:  

James C wrote:
SolusOS 2 Alpha-6.......just released.Gnome 3 that I don't mind using. Smile

Looks very solid for an alpha release.

http://solusos.com/


I'm trying it too; I think Solus is one of the very best distros out there, and I agree that it looks pretty much ready for release. The only thing I don't like about it is that it uses Pulse Audio by default, which is frankly terrible on my system (and I've seen complaints about it from other people too).

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nooby

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jan 2013, 06:49    Post_subject:  

ICPUG wrote:
Nooby,

It looks like you provided the right solution after all. I interpret the request from your correspondent as wanting to isolate himself completely from anything other than his Live CD. I do wonder where he stores his creations from LibreOffice, maybe on a USB stick.


He has changed his mind so he writes

Quote:
Thanks for your suggestions about Puppy and other live discs.
I think what I'll end up doing is running a full installation of Ubuntu,

get iptables up and running on it, and simply leave it disconnected
from any networks as much as possible. Hopefully that's good enough.


Would not Linux Mint be a better choice?

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jan 2013, 06:56    Post_subject:  

Talking about other distros.

I almost always use Puppy Lupu 528-005
but have Fatdog 64 latest version installed too
and recently tested latest ArchPup from January 2013

Being as noob as I am I barely get what FatDog
and ArchPup is. I noticed that flash did not work
on one of my three distros so I must have done
something wrong there. I fail to get recording going
as it did on the small netbooks but that could be due
to me not using the analog mixer so maybe the soundcard
need the output from mixer into the line input for to record?

sorry me wordy. I mean I am too noob to even use
the possibilities have to be hand held all the time
and that is not a good way to do computing Smile

Why would somebody chose one of these three puppies
over the other. I love that Devs do what they do but
I am lagging behind. Can not catch up Smile

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jan 2013, 19:16    Post_subject:  

guys be patient with an old fool like Nooby.

Lucid Ubuntu Puppy
Slacko Slackware Puppy
ArchPup Arch Pacman Puppy

We need Smile hiding behind the corner ready to run.

We need Android Google Puppy

think of it. That would allow us to be root
and still buy those android apps that we long for.

I need that app that check up me stop to breath during sleep.
could save my life.

I could by the charming app "Honey it's me!"

What on earth do I talk about.
A puppy that is hundred percent compatible with Google Store
Android Market and still hundred percent a Puppy?

is not the later kernels already prepared to be android compatible?

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Colonel Panic


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PostPosted: Sun 20 Jan 2013, 19:39    Post_subject:  

I've reinstalled OpenSUSE 12.2 Edu-Life, and for some reason the installation seemed to work just fine this time (and it booted into KDE by default). I don't know what went wrong before. Also, I'm giving the latest version of Fuduntu a spin (2013.1) and it looks pretty good except that it absolutely forbids you to install anything closed source on it - so no Opera, for example, which I use a lot. It's probably not a "keeper" for me for that reason.
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PostPosted: Wed 30 Jan 2013, 07:34    Post_subject:  

A quick update - I've just managed to install Opera on Fuduntu, but neither of the image viewers I use were available for install (I don't really expect Portabase on a non-Debian distro, apart from Puppy of course, but that wasn't available either).
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PostPosted: Fri 01 Feb 2013, 14:07    Post_subject:  

Dedoimedo's clearly none too impressed with the latest Bodhi release;

http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/bodhi-2-2.html

Have others who've used distros which have been reviewed by this guy mostly agreed or disagreed with him? My impression from having used it in the past and elsewhere is that Bodhi is a lot more sound and competent than he's claiming here.

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PostPosted: Fri 01 Feb 2013, 16:08    Post_subject:  

Colonel Panic wrote:
Dedoimedo's clearly none too impressed with the latest Bodhi release;

http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/bodhi-2-2.html

Have others who've used distros which have been reviewed by this guy mostly agreed or disagreed with him? My impression from having used it in the past and elsewhere is that Bodhi is a lot more sound and competent than he's claiming here.


What is it with this guy and minimalism? If you want a minimalist screen in Bodhi: Choose a theme and then just right-click to remove any gadget you don't like. Remove the shelf (dock) or minimize it. Turn off the desktop image or get a picture that is all black like a paint-sample chip and there you are. This will make the desktop so minimalist, that you have to left-cIick on the desktop to find the menu. I cannot imagine what is more minimalist than a simple black screen except a computer that's turned off? When I tested this the most recent 2.XX version, I also installed XFCE. Well, Bodhi boots faster than XFCE on the same 12.04 base. It also boots faster than Bodhi on a 10.04 Ubuntu base. it opens an openoffice doc faster and it will open 0AD faster and retrieve a saved game faster than XFCE. The only reason I rejected Bodhi 2.XX is because it wanted to completely erase the existing data and configuration extant on my Lexmark printer in order to install drivers. I did not want to do this as the printer is already linked to two other OS's and computers. I went back to Bodhi 1.4 as it let me merely add the Lexmark without re-flashing the printer's setup on the printer itself.
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PostPosted: Tue 05 Feb 2013, 05:25    Post_subject:  

These guys say that they have something new and special in Linux OS?

http://www.maui-project.org/en/about/maui/

Quote:
Maui is an innovative Linux distribution currently in development that specifically targets personal computing. Maui is a fast, efficient, simple to use, easy to learn and yet powerful system for computer users of all levels. Hawaii, the desktop environment, is a lightweight, coherent and fast desktop environment that relies on Qt 5, QtQuick and Wayland and is designed to offer the best UX for the device where it is running.

Maui doesn't have the traditional packages, it offers an innovative update system with point in time recovery and lower bandwidth usage; applications are shipped as bundles (compressed images that don't need to be decompressed).


I am not clever enough to get what it is though.

the iso is less than 600 mb so that is comparably small
to the big OS iso that usually are 1G and maybe 2 or 3 GB big.

they describe how to dd the hybrid iso to a usb flash

would be cool if anybody share their thoughts on it.

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PostPosted: Sun 10 Feb 2013, 15:38    Post_subject:  

linuxbear wrote:
Colonel Panic wrote:
Dedoimedo's clearly none too impressed with the latest Bodhi release;

http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/bodhi-2-2.html

Have others who've used distros which have been reviewed by this guy mostly agreed or disagreed with him? My impression from having used it in the past and elsewhere is that Bodhi is a lot more sound and competent than he's claiming here.


What is it with this guy and minimalism? If you want a minimalist screen in Bodhi: Choose a theme and then just right-click to remove any gadget you don't like. Remove the shelf (dock) or minimize it. Turn off the desktop image or get a picture that is all black like a paint-sample chip and there you are. This will make the desktop so minimalist, that you have to left-cIick on the desktop to find the menu. I cannot imagine what is more minimalist than a simple black screen except a computer that's turned off? When I tested this the most recent 2.XX version, I also installed XFCE. Well, Bodhi boots faster than XFCE on the same 12.04 base. It also boots faster than Bodhi on a 10.04 Ubuntu base. it opens an openoffice doc faster and it will open 0AD faster and retrieve a saved game faster than XFCE. The only reason I rejected Bodhi 2.XX is because it wanted to completely erase the existing data and configuration extant on my Lexmark printer in order to install drivers. I did not want to do this as the printer is already linked to two other OS's and computers. I went back to Bodhi 1.4 as it let me merely add the Lexmark without re-flashing the printer's setup on the printer itself.


Thanks for the advice. As it was I tried Parsix 4 (rc) instead on the assumption that it would be faster than a Ubuntu-based distro since it is based on raw Debian instead - so far it's fast enough but it won't install Opera (I think the Parsix people are free software types and wouldn't support it) or Iceape, which I'd have thought it would support. So unfortunately it seems too limited to be a "keeper" on my system.

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