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[simargl]

Latest version: 12.12.2 http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=83064
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Here I will add my To-do list, changes compared to stable version and other future plans related to ArchPup development:
29 Jan
Just to add some more information regarding /etc/rc.conf. Following line is new:
# LOCALIZATION
LOCALE="C"
That means changing system language requires only to change one line in one file, but off course only after
you enable desired locale in /etc/locale.gen. Now, that's simple and easy
Second - important information: With this major version change creating new save file is required.
Here is my advice: First backup your /root folder to some location outside your save file, then rename save file
to archpup.2fs.bak (just in case ), reboot and make new savefile. Then finally you can move original /root folder
back in its place. This way you settings will be saved and you can continue to use them in new version.

21 Jan
In attempt to centralize system configuration in one file like in good old Arch Linux , here is
list of current variables inside /etc/rc.conf
X_AUTOLOGIN="yes"
AUTOMOUNT_VOLUMES="no"
SAVEFILE_DIALOG_FORCE="no"
DAEMONS="metalog alsa cups messagebus dhcpcd rc.pcmcia rsync Pwireless2_service"
MODULES="" Add modules you want to run on startup. After this change /etc/MODULESCONFIG is removed.
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spacefm replaces thunar as default file manager
It is much more customizable than thunar, has image preview, right click create and extract archive..
Problems with mounting are now fixed!
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use latest kernel from 3.4 series
split and simplify build script

I was thinking what is the best way to distribute next version, so here is final decision for version 132, that will be based on
packages from 1st February 2013:
- First there will be archpup-132-alpha, iso with only archpup.sfs and adrv.sfs size around 80 Mb.
- After some period of testing and probably fixing this alpha version, next iso will be archpup.sfs+adrv.sfs+archapps.sfs
and around 150 Mb size. I will no longer make this minimal 80 MB iso, because everyone can remove archapps.sfs and still
OS would be functional.
- In archapps will be included pacmanxg4, but not yaourt. Instead for managing packages from AUR there will be packer in
another sfs - archdev. Reason is simple, you need development sfs to compile packages from AUR, so packer is moved to
that module.
- Evince will be removed, and as new pdf viewer there will be qpdfview
- Under system menu new entry is added "Update package databases", easier for beginners no need for manual pacman -Sy.
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[bark_bark_bark]

You should add that a more stable and well-compiled kernel.

[stifiling]

those plans for the new ArchPup are sounding GREAT!!

with PACMAN the complete package manager? even 'better' than apt-get?? this is AMAZING!! now those hard to install apps that puppy has so much trouble with, will be a BREEZE. easily install KDE, Mate, Unity, Compiz etc...just by typing the command 'pacman -S mate'....absolutely amazing.

i think the ydrv idea and keeping the wm.sfs separate is also a good idea.

[mavrothal]

simargl,
good start.

Would you mind clarifying your goals on:
kernel,
aufs-utils,
udev,
Wireless connectivity,
Arch version (12.12 again?)
Maximum size of the iso
Possibility of 3 SFSs (base - X drivers/video libs, DM, WM - Apps).
The answers might avoid useless discussions and save us some time.

Regarding Qt devel files in apps/adrv SFS, is it an sfs-building issue or a functionality issue that can not be moved to archdev?

[simargl]

bark_bark_bark:
Could you explain what you mean with 'more stable' 'well-compiled kernel'. This kernel ( 3.6.8 ) for me
is perfectly stable, I think you meant older kernel that better supports your hardware. And , for compiling
kernel there are rules - list of commands that everyone is following, I did not add some crazy patch that would
make it unstable, so what is well-compiled kernel and why is this bad-compiled kernel?

mavrothal:
Thanks, this topic is just for (mostly useless ) talk. I'm not against adding 3 SFSs but this is important problem -
Qt or any devel files from adrv sfs must stay there, otherwise if someone replaces adrv, gcc would still see qt as
installed, and pacman -S qt would refuse to overwrite those files.

[darkcity]

Great to hear the next version is being developed. Is it going to be possible to add Puppy style apps, for example startmount or pburn. Most of them just need gtkdialog and a few scripts. It would also be good to improve the USB drive support.

[mavrothal]

[simargl]

mavrothal
I forgot to answer about kernel version for next release. First I thought to use latest kernel from
3.7 series or eventually 3.6.11. But at http://www.kernel.org/ 3.6.11 is labeled as end of
life (EOL), so maybe I will use 3.4.25 or latest from that series, it was updated 2013-01-1.
I made rc.conf with this content

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[bark_bark_bark]

[cinclus_cinclus]

[stifiling]

Here's the media player nightingale (fork of the media player songbird) running on ArchPup:


I simply compiled it from the AUR which is easily accomplished using ArchPup. Still trying to decide if i like it more than clementine, but here it is if anyone wants to check it out:

Download:
nightingale-git-20130116-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz

easily install the package using:

[bark_bark_bark]

[simargl]

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