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01micko

Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 7037 Location: qld
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Posted: Sun 30 Dec 2012, 07:15 Post subject:
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| jamesbond wrote: | | Check the version of ntfs-3g used inside initrd (that is, part of woof) | It's old:
| Code: | ./ntfs-3g --help
ntfs-3g 2010.1.16 integrated FUSE 27 - Third Generation NTFS Driver
XATTRS are on, POSIX ACLS are off
Copyright (C) 2005-2007 Yura Pakhuchiy
Copyright (C) 2006-2009 Szabolcs Szakacsits
Copyright (C) 2007-2009 Jean-Pierre Andre
Copyright (C) 2009 Erik Larsson
Usage: ntfs-3g [-o option[,...]] <device|image_file> <mount_point>
Options: ro (read-only mount), remove_hiberfile, uid=, gid=,
umask=, fmask=, dmask=, streams_interface=.
Please see the details in the manual (type: man ntfs-3g).
Example: ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows
Ntfs-3g news, support and information: http://ntfs-3g.org
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It's a static compile by Barry. I have no idea how to update it. Little help?
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pemasu

Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 5175 Location: Finland
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Posted: Sun 30 Dec 2012, 07:24 Post subject:
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Barry`s post how he did it.
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01316
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01micko

Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 7037 Location: qld
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Posted: Sun 30 Dec 2012, 07:34 Post subject:
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Ha, was just about to search that, downloading the uClibc filesystem now, but it's old! (2005). We'll see if it works, I'll grab the latest ntfs-3g sources. (edit, found an image from 2008, had to expand it to make room for the compile resize2fs root_fs_i386.ext2 150M then mount it, copy the ntfs-3g source, chroot, compile)
- Later...
ok, I got it compiled, the binary is 420k stripped, Barry's is 391k, so that's not too bad considering there would be natural bloat from bugfixes, extra features etc. I didn't test it as I don't have any compressed ntfs drives.
To test, unpack and add the binary to your PATH (suggest /root/my-applicatins/bin or /usr/local/bin) and move (or rename) the original (usually /bin/ntfs-3g) then try to mount an compressed ntfs partition | Code: | mkdir -p /mnt/ntfs-test
mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /mnt/ntfs-test | replacing sda2 with whatever your target partition is. That should mount it rw. (That's the code on the ntfs-3g site).
Don't forget to unmount when you've finished testing.. umount /mnt/ntfs-test
If it works you can just click on your initrd.gz in a frugal and it should unpack in /root. Replace the ntfs-3g file in /bin then repack the initrd.gz. Remaster. See what happens!
NO WARRANTY
EDIT: if it works, there is no need to recompile in your distro as it's completely static. Wouldn't matter what distro you built it in.. (x86 32 bit of course)
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L18L
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 1802 Location: Burghaslach, Germany
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Posted: Sun 30 Dec 2012, 09:40 Post subject:
This Save-session file problem exist with ALL modern PUPs Subject description: woof build :?: :?: :?: |
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| gcmartin wrote: | | Here's more info from tests done with Carolina, for it seems to help hint at where to look for the save-session problems in Woof build PUPs. ... |
| about pupsaveconfig BarryK wrote: | | Excellent work, but I never put that into Woof, as I wanted to do it a bit differently. |
see http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02489
So please forget the term "ALL modern PUPs"
(I prefer the official ones )
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rcrsn51

Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 7834 Location: Stratford, Ontario
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Posted: Sun 30 Dec 2012, 10:27 Post subject:
Re: More evidence of problem happening at save-session Shutdown |
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| gcmartin wrote: | | Hope this gives clear, repeatable evidence .. |
Not really. You haven't stated whether you are still dealing with COMPRESSED NTFS partitions.
As a test, I booted Carolina 005 off its Live CD.
I applied the rc.shutdown patch as described in the Slacko 5.4 thread.
I made a save file on an UNcompressed NTFS flash drive.
I rebooted. The save file was detected. Everything worked correctly.
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jamesbond
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 1573 Location: The Blue Marble
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Posted: Sun 30 Dec 2012, 19:43 Post subject:
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| 01micko wrote: | | Code: | ./ntfs-3g --help
ntfs-3g 2010.1.16 integrated FUSE 27 - Third Generation NTFS Driver
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No wonder it's not working. See http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-advanced/data-compression/ - it says compressed NTFS is only fully supported after 2010.8.8.
| Quote: | | It's a static compile by Barry. I have no idea how to update it. Little help? |
Well I can see you don't need that already
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01micko

Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 7037 Location: qld
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Posted: Sun 30 Dec 2012, 19:55 Post subject:
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| jamesbond wrote: |
Well I can see you don't need that already  |
Yeah, was surprisingly easy. . Yet to hear a report if it works though, but no reason it shouldn't.
BTW: works just fine to mount a normal ntfs partition using my above instructions, except I called with full path to binary, that way you don't need to whack it in PATH or move your existing ntfs-3g binary, creating unnecessary whiteout files.
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gcmartin
Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 2693 Location: Earth
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Posted: Mon 31 Dec 2012, 07:19 Post subject:
Test with01Micko's new module |
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Thanks for the newer module. Here what I did and found
On the NTFs partition, I have a folder where I've put boot directories for Slacko, Pemasu's Precise, Barry's Precise. and Carolina. GRUB4DOS was set up as a Boot Manager with entries to boot each distro.
Using Pemasu's Precise,
- I downloaded 01Micko's NTFS fix
- double-clicked each directory's "initrd.gz" file which opened to allow /bin/ntfs-3g file to be replaced with 01Micko's entry of ntfs-3g
Next,- I booted each distro - no problem
- made FirstRUN changes in each distro - no problems
- Started a "reboot plus save-session" for each distro
Here what I found
- Carolina, no problem in reboot. Carolina found and used the save-session that was there
- Pemasu's Precise, no problem in reboot. Pemasu's Precise found and used the save-session that was there
- Barry's Precise ran into boot-time issues with Messages "uncompression error" and "System halted"
- Slacko, indicated I/O errors in shutdown processing. On reboot, it failed as soon as it touched the save-session file.
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BarryK
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Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 6874 Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Posted: Tue 29 Jan 2013, 10:14 Post subject:
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gcmartin,
Just to eliminate them, could you test these, make sure that they are correctly identifying your (compressed) ntfs partition...
For example, say it is /dev/sda1:
# guess_fstype /dev/sda1
# blkid /dev/sda1
# disktype /dev/sda1
# fdisk -l /dev/sda1
This is assuming that you are using the recent ntfs-3g that supports compressed ntfs.
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gcmartin
Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 2693 Location: Earth
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Posted: Tue 29 Jan 2013, 13:46 Post subject:
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| BarryK wrote: | gcmartin,
Just to eliminate them, could you test these, make sure that they are correctly identifying your (compressed) ntfs partition...
For example, say it is /dev/sda1:
# guess_fstype /dev/sda1
# blkid /dev/sda1
# disktype /dev/sda1
# fdisk -l /dev/sda1
This is assuming that you are using the recent ntfs-3g that supports compressed ntfs. | I wouldn't have any problem doing this. But, I would like someone to recommend a distro which either has the latest in its REPO or built-into the base distro. (I would prefer providing feedback from any distro with this in the base).
Thanks in advance for any recommendation(s).
Edited: .Both of Pemasu's latest Upup versions have ntfs-3g updated version through woof.
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gcmartin
Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 2693 Location: Earth
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Posted: Wed 30 Jan 2013, 13:14 Post subject:
NTFS resolution FOUND. Works both compressed & non-compress |
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Pemasu's uPUP 54X7 with the NTFS fix works fine. No errs at Shutdown, as system acknowledges save-session. System, on reboot, starts; finding and using the save-session file as expected. At desktop, the customization from last session exist as expected.
The results asked for | Code: | # guess_fstype /dev/sda5
ntfs
# blkid /dev/sda5
/dev/sda5: LABEL="Compressed" UUID="E2B45070B4504965" TYPE="ntfs"
# disktype /dev/sda5
--- /dev/sda5
Block device, size 18.95 GiB (20345406464 bytes)
Windows NTLDR boot loader
NTFS file system
Volume size 18.95 GiB (20345405952 bytes, 39737121 sectors)
# fdisk -l /dev/sda
Disk /dev/sda: 60.0 GB, 60011642880 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7296 cylinders, total 117210240 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x41ab2316
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 63 112454 56196 de Dell Utility
/dev/sda2 112455 61552639 30720092+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda3 61552640 109883391 24165376 5 Extended
/dev/sda4 109884600 117210239 3662820 1c Hidden W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sda5 61552703 101289824 19868561 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda6 101292032 109883391 4295680 82 Linux swap / Solaris | Here to help
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