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greengeek

Joined: 20 Jul 2010
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Location: New Zealand
PostPosted: Wed 30 Jan 2013, 08:37    Post subject:  
jrb wrote:
Here's the one I've been using, MPlayer-svn-gtk2-0.4.pet It's a conversion from a TinyCore .tce and so far has played everything I've asked it to Very Happy with no deps other than gtk.
Excellent, thanks! That works really well. I initially got a message saying "New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)" so I had to go into X11 fonts and copy/rename one of the dejaVu sans ones as New_Face, then go into the Mplayer settings and browse to it - then all was ok.
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jrb


Joined: 11 Dec 2007
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Location: Smithers, BC, Canada
PostPosted: Wed 30 Jan 2013, 09:14    Post subject:  
dWLkR wrote:
nice work!

what about flash-videos on this machine? does it work without stuttering?

could you please try to watch this video (in fullscreen) from the german site rtlnow.de?

ty!

Sorry dWLkR, This puppy doesn't come with browser or flashplayer, you have to set that up yourself. As for the link you posted I'm not in to soap operas and definitely not pay-per-veiw. Laughing

Thanks anyway, J
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jrb


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PostPosted: Wed 30 Jan 2013, 09:20    Post subject:  
greengeek wrote:
I initially got a message saying "New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)" so I had to go into X11 fonts and copy/rename one of the dejaVu sans ones as New_Face, then go into the Mplayer settings and browse to it - then all was ok.

Nice going greengeek. Cool I forgot about that. I got that message too and symlinked /usr/share/fonts/default/TTF/DejaVuSans.ttf into /root/.mplayer/ and renamed the symlink to subfont.ttf
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jrb


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PostPosted: Wed 30 Jan 2013, 14:27    Post subject: Networking in BareBones  
Just a note here about networking with YASSM and pnethood. They both install from the PPM but it doesn't seem to pick up on their deps. Sad

YASSM - needs mpscan from wary file_sharing-curlftpfs-mpscan-0.2-0.9.1-0.1.0.pet

Pnethood - needs nbtscan from wary file nbtscan-1.5.1a-james-patched|nbtscan.pet

They can both be downloaded from PPM. You only need one or the other, not both.
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jrb


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PostPosted: Thu 31 Jan 2013, 12:13    Post subject:  
I just uploaded MPlayer-svn-gtk2-0.5.pet which fixes the bug mentioned by greengeek above.
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greengeek

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PostPosted: Fri 01 Feb 2013, 05:25    Post subject:  
..and do you have a recommended lightweight mp3/wav player? (no fancy features required - although the ability to add new files to the currently playing stack while the first one is playing would be handy). Thx!
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jrb


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PostPosted: Fri 01 Feb 2013, 09:39    Post subject:  
greengeek wrote:
..and do you have a recommended lightweight mp3/wav player? (no fancy features required - although the ability to add new files to the currently playing stack while the first one is playing would be handy). Thx!
Yeah, Very Happy I've just uploaded my configured version of tempestuous' xhippo-3.5-gtk2, xhippo-3.5-gtk2-jrb-0.2.pet. Definitely not fancy but it plays mp3's, wav's, mid's and au's in the BareBones Puppies. If you want ogg's, flacs, or anything else you'll have to add a command line player for those and then change /usr/local/etc/xhippo.config. Easy to do and obvious once you open the file.

I've also set it up in the .pet to be the defaultaudioplayer.

You can drag a folder full of audio files into the play area and it will play them all, either sequentially of randomly, your pick. You can also drag a new song into the play area while another is playing and it will be played as soon as the first song is done.

At 128K installed its very lightweight.
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sheldonisaac

Joined: 21 Jun 2009
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
PostPosted: Fri 01 Feb 2013, 11:22    Post subject: Re: BareBones Puppies & BABYies
Subject description: Stripped versions		  
(much snipping)
jrb wrote:
.. I just uploaded racy-5.3-BABYbarebones.iso
This one comes in at 68MB thanks to the magic of BK's babybuild and XZ compression which I forgot to use before. As above it may not run on your hardware (although it runs on all of mine).

Thanks a lot, jrb!
My first time with any racy. Having a "depression mentality" (born in 1934), I like small. This is a new (to me, as of last year) Dell Latitude D610, from about 2005.
So far all I've done is frugal install, 256MB savefile, Opera 12.02 by way of bootmanager sfs file.

Coming from a Lucid Puppy 5.2.8 background, I appreciated the familar JWM interface.

I'm looking forward to follow up on some of the information in this thread.

Thanks again,
Sheldon
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sheldonisaac

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Location: Philadelphia, PA
PostPosted: Fri 01 Feb 2013, 16:05    Post subject: libavdevice.so.53  
I tried to run Pmusic 3.12, but there's no sound when I click an mp3 file.

I did ffmpeg --version and got
Quote:
fmpeg: error while loading shared libraries: libavdevice.so.53: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

How can I fix this problem?

Thanks,
Sheldon
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greengeek

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PostPosted: Fri 01 Feb 2013, 20:17    Post subject:  
jrb wrote:
I've just uploaded my configured version of tempestuous' xhippo-3.5-gtk2, xhippo-3.5-gtk2-jrb-0.2.pet

Thanks, tidy little mp3 player. I just click on a song and xhippo opens up without any delay - nice! Unfortunately drag 'n drop didn't work for me though on WaryBABYbones (EDIT: silly me - its actually RacyBABYbones that I'm using) but not a biggy as it lets me right click the play area and add songs or a folder that way.
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jrb


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PostPosted: Fri 01 Feb 2013, 23:21    Post subject: Re: libavdevice.so.53  
sheldonisaac wrote:
I tried to run Pmusic 3.12, but there's no sound when I click an mp3 file.

I did ffmpeg --version and got
Quote:
fmpeg: error while loading shared libraries: libavdevice.so.53: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

How can I fix this problem?

Thanks,
Sheldon

Hi Sheldon,
Glad to see you're open to new ideas. Unfortunately in the world of Linux things change fast. Shocked As you know Puppy is always based on other distros packages, ubuntu, slackware, etc. Racy and Wary are based on T2 packages which are very efficiently put together allowing very small size. This is good but T2 isn't updated very often which means sometimes they fall quite a bit behind the other linux distros. This is the case here. When I try to install Pmusic312 and run it from the command line this is what I get
Code:
# pmusic
grep: /root/.pmusic/pmusicrc: No such file or directory
/usr/local/pmusic/func_config: line 35: /root/.pmusic/tmp/window_title: No such file or directory
xwininfo: error: No window with name "" exists!
xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default



aplay: playback:2297: read error
/usr/local/pmusic/pmusic: line 459: 13043 Aborted                 $GTKDIALOG -f $WORKDIR/xml_pmusic${XML_SUFFIX} -G +"$X"+"$Y" 2>$STDERR

Gtkdialog failed to run the pMusic frontend
Please execute 'pmusic -D' to check all dependencies.

Killed
# pmusic -D
  R E Q U I R E D                           
    bash                                      [OK]
    coreutils, awk, sed, diff                 [OK]
    gtkdialog                        >= 0.8.3 [MISSING]
    ffmpeg                           >= 0.11  [??]
    aplay  (alsa)                             [OK]

  R E C O M M E N D E D                     
    streamripper (extended radio-rip/play)    [MISSING]
    cdda2wav     (play/rip audio-CD)          [OK]
    wget         (connection to www)          [OK]

  O P T I O N A L                           
    pBurn        (burning audio-CD)           [OK]
    pFilesearch  (File-search engine) >= 1.28 [OK]
    pSchedule    (podcast managing)   >= 1.12 [MISSING]
    pEqualizer   (10 band equalizer)          [MISSING]

# gtkdialog -v 
gtkdialog version 0.8.0 (C) 2003-2007 Laszlo Pere, 2011 Thunor


gtkdialog >= 0.8.3 [MISSING] is the big one. It means we aren't going to run Pmusic312 in this version of Racy. Time to uninstall

However after updating the file lists in PPM, I see that pmusic267 is available ( I also checked the Pmusic thread on the forum). After installing and running at commandline I get:
Code:
pmusic -D
  R E Q U I R E D                           
    bash                                      [OK]
    coreutils, awk, sed, diff                 [OK]
    gtkdialog                        >= 0.8.0 [OK]
    ffmpeg                           >= 0.8   [??]
    aplay  (alsa)                             [OK]

  R E C O M M E N D E D                     
    streamripper (extended radio-rip/play)    [MISSING]
    cdda2wav     (play/rip audio-CD)          [OK]
    wget         (connection to www)          [OK]

  O P T I O N A L                           
    Pburn        (burning audio-CD)           [OK]
    pFilesearch  (File-search engine) >= 1.28 [OK]
    Pschedule    (podcast managing)           [OK]
    pEqualizer   (10 band equalizer)          [MISSING]


This is better since we have gtkdialog version 0.8.0. After installing ffmpeg-20111002-w5c.pet from the package manager we find that we still need lame-398-2-w5c.pet to run. With these installed it works.

Whew! I'm afraid the PuppyPackageManager isn't always good about listing dependencies. This is partly because there are so many different versions and so many different contributors. Oh well, makes life interesting. Laughing

Cheers, J
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sheldonisaac

Joined: 21 Jun 2009
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
PostPosted: Sat 02 Feb 2013, 09:25    Post subject: Re: libavdevice.so.53 etc  
Many thanks, jrb. I've bookmarked your message to read more thoroughly.

Meanwhile, I tip my hat to you for working on this.

There's a lot that you developers know and do that we users don't, plainly!
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jrb


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PostPosted: Sun 03 Feb 2013, 17:43    Post subject:  
I just appended some notes to the end of first post about Printing and PDF files.
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anikin

Joined: 10 May 2012
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PostPosted: Wed 06 Feb 2013, 06:23    Post subject:  
Hi jrb,

Racy babybarebones fails to boot. It 'pauses' saying 'can't find puppy_racy_5.3.sfs'. Frugal install on an ext4 sd card, pfix=ram.
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PostPosted: Wed 06 Feb 2013, 07:49    Post subject:  
These version are very useful. I've added a note on the WIki
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Barebones
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