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rcrsn51

Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 7754 Location: Stratford, Ontario
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Posted: Wed 06 Feb 2013, 17:42 Post subject:
Re: copy / move errors ntfs? |
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| SFR wrote: | Another workaround:
| http://linux.die.net/man/8/ntfs-3g wrote: | no_def_opts
By default ntfs-3g acts as if "silent" (ignore errors on chmod and chown), "allow_other" (allow any user to access files) and "nonempty" (allow mounting on non-empty directories) were set, and "no_def_opts" cancels these default options. |
Removing this option in init script (lines 239 & 249) disables these copy/move errors caused by newer ntfs-3g, but the question is - if that option is really needed for something or if it can be thrown away safely..?
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I can confirm the problem in Slacko 5402 when copying to an NTFS-formatted /mnt/home. And I can confirm that putting the old ntfs-3g 2010.1.16 in the init fixes it.
However, if you copy to an external NTFS drive, there is no problem. In that scenario, you are now using the new /bin/ntfs-3g. If you check "mount", the NTFS partition has "allow_other". But /mnt/home has "default_permissions".
I'm guessing that the definition of "default_permissions" has changed in the new ntfs-3g,
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SFR

Joined: 26 Oct 2011 Posts: 571
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Posted: Wed 06 Feb 2013, 17:55 Post subject:
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Yep, it seems that the problem concerns only .../dev_save
Just created small sda2 NTFS partition and no errors while copying files there...
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01micko

Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 7019 Location: qld
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Posted: Wed 06 Feb 2013, 18:08 Post subject:
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Frankly, I don't care about the rox ntfs error. You install to ntfs at your peril. I don't do it, it's only a "warning" type error and the real fix is to patch rox. Removing "no_def_opts" shouldn't be a problem though.
I do realise rcrsn51, you use flash drives formatted as ntfs, in that case then I see an issue, but that's not supported in universal installer and hardly any "new user" would know about or do that.
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peebee

Joined: 21 Sep 2008 Posts: 911 Location: Malvern, Worcs, UK
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Posted: Wed 06 Feb 2013, 18:17 Post subject:
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| 01micko wrote: | | Frankly, I don't care about the rox ntfs error. |
Hi Mick
Surely many new Puppy users will be trying Puppy by doing frugal installs on top of and beside an existing Windows system with an ntfs formatted disk - that's certainly how I started.....
Having red fail errors popup when you move or copy files is likely to put new users off completely.
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James C

Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 4742 Location: Kentucky
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Posted: Thu 07 Feb 2013, 03:15 Post subject:
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The always enjoyable experience of Adobe Flash.........
No problems on this Athlon XP box with 10.3r183.
EDIT:
Just checked, I'm also using 10.3r183 on the install on the P4 with no problems.
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Sage
Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 4623 Location: GB
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Posted: Thu 07 Feb 2013, 03:57 Post subject:
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If Only:
Folks would listen to the great advice from mick and James !
Folks would grasp the nettle and finally, once and for all delete everything NTFS, short of nuking Redmond !
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8-bit

Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Posts: 3012 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Thu 07 Feb 2013, 05:21 Post subject:
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Deleting everything NTFS from Puppy would in fact make it unusable as a rescue CD for use on a Windows system.
Of course, one still has to work around the secure boot shit from Microsoft.
And I have used it myself to get rid of a persistent file that was scareware in that it would pop up a window when one tried to run any application saying it was infected and to install their anti-virus software at a cost.
That one took me a while to track down.
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01micko

Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 7019 Location: qld
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Posted: Thu 07 Feb 2013, 06:07 Post subject:
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The rox "error" is a storm in a tea cup. People are free to do what they choose, including installing to ntfs. Rox is correct in reporting the permissions have changed and probably due to the file signature being changed (speculation) reports that it failed to copy/move. It's a simple rox bug, nothing more. I will not screw with the init or roll back ntfs-3g.
EDIT: looks like rox wont be patched without a lot of work. Rox in this case relies on the output of cp or mv. If no output it's all good, if there is then rox spits the dummy. It's actually a bug in the old ntfs-3g binary that rox didn't spit the dummy.
The only way to suppress the error is to change the init call from | Code: | | ntfs-3g $MNT_DEV $MNT_DIR -o umask=0,no_def_opts,noatime,rw | to | Code: | | ntfs-3g $MNT_DEV $MNT_DIR -o umask=0,noatime,rw | as suggested by SFR.
I'll leave that up to BK. This is as far as I am caring.
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tlchost
Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 1486 Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA
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Posted: Thu 07 Feb 2013, 09:57 Post subject:
Re: getlibre is broken |
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| 01micko wrote: | | tlchost wrote: | | get libreoffice is now broken with bootable usb drive...tells me it does not support DVD or low ram installs....works fine in the non-beta versions of Slacko. |
This is strange, but I guess there is some conflict. I'll resolve it soon
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Fails not only on the desktop with 16 gig of ram,but also on the laptop with
4 gig.
Works fine with the non-beta version of Slacko.
Just as a test,,,,what do I need to delete in the getlibreoffice script to disable the memory check and the usb check? I'm willing to test it with each one disabled if that would help you isolate the problem.
Thom
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Billtoo
Joined: 07 Apr 2009 Posts: 1496 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Thu 07 Feb 2013, 11:13 Post subject:
Slacko 5.4.1 Beta |
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Manual frugal install to an ext4 formatted SDHC card on AAO netbook
(11.6" screen)
video-info-glx 1.5.1 Thu7Feb2013 on Slacko Puppy 5.4.0.2 Linux 3.4.28-PAE i686
5.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI TechnologiesIncM880G[MobilityRadeonHD4200]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RS880M 01.00
X Server: Xorg Driver: fglrx
X.Org version: 1.12.3
dimensions: 1024x600 pixels (270x158 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: ATI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series
OpenGL version string: 3.3.11672 Compatibility Profile Context
AMD Athlon(tm) II Neo K125 Processor
Core 0: @1700 MHz
# glxgears
8573 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1714.574 FPS
8716 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1743.173 FPS
Network controller Broadcom Corporation BCM43225 802.11b/g/n (rev 01)
It's working well but installing qt-482 from ppm took a long time.
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rodin.s
Joined: 22 Sep 2010 Posts: 323 Location: Ukraine
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Posted: Thu 07 Feb 2013, 12:11 Post subject:
updates_mgr gettext, opera 50%CPU |
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There is an error in line 214 of /usr/bin/updates_mgr. Variable shouldn't be a parameter to gettext. It works but it's not detected by xgettext. I have changed it like this and have also added gettext to line 216:
| Code: | <text><label>'$(gettext "Your last update was on")' '$LASTUPDATE'</label></text>
<tree>
<label>'$(gettext 'Package|Version|Description')'</label> |
Something in Opera consumes 50%CPU with only two tabs opened.
| Code: | Mem: 479436K used, 25016K free, 0K shrd, 70940K buff, 286836K cached
CPU: 65% usr 20% sys 0% nic 14% idle 0% io 0% irq 0% sirq
Load average: 3.01 2.01 2.23 2/77 3320
PID PPID USER STAT VSZ %VSZ CPU %CPU COMMAND
7112 6626 root R 57392 11% 0 47% {opera:libflashp} /usr/lib/opera/pluginwrapper/operapluginwrapper
3779 3778 root S < 154m 31% 0 8% X :0 -br -nolisten tcp
6626 5229 root S 128m 26% 0 4% /usr/lib/opera/opera
5306 1 root S 21504 4% 0 1% /root/Startup/parcellite
5390 1 root S 19392 4% 0 1% /usr/local/firewallstate/firewallstate |
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Volhout

Joined: 28 Dec 2008 Posts: 242
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Posted: Thu 07 Feb 2013, 15:01 Post subject:
Dutch translation |
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Hi 01Micko,
Any idea how to change 5.4 into a dutch puppy ???
Regards,
Volhout
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01micko

Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 7019 Location: qld
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Posted: Thu 07 Feb 2013, 18:06 Post subject:
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Chromium is uploaded.
chromium-24.0.1312.56-i486-s14.pet 43 M (should be at nluug and other mirrors soon)
This I compiled myself in Slackware-14.0 so should be very compatible with slacko. It is the latest in the ~24 line, built with slackbuild.
I built in a unique feature. If you create the file /root/.chromium_dir ($HOME/.chromium_dir, hidden file, note the preceding DOT) with a path to your user-data-dir | Code: | | USER_DATA_DIR=/path/to/my-data-dir | the chromium.sh starter script will detect it and use the path, you can selct the path in /mnt/home if you wish (you may already have settings for google-chrome/chromium in /mnt/home).
You might need to update flash-player. I think I better update the one in the iso to the latest in the ~10 series.
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Billtoo
Joined: 07 Apr 2009 Posts: 1496 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Thu 07 Feb 2013, 22:04 Post subject:
Slacko 5.4.1 Beta |
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Manual frugal install to an ext4 formatted SDHC card on an Acer laptop.
video-info-glx 1.5.1 Thu7Feb2013 on Slacko Puppy 5.4.0.2 Linux 3.4.28-PAE i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Manhattan
[Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: PARK 01.00
X Server: Xorg Driver: fglrx
X.Org version: 1.12.3
dimensions: 1600x900 pixels (423x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: ATI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series
OpenGL version string: 4.2.12002 Compatibility Profile Context 9.012
# glxgears
23054 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4610.689 FPS
22873 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4574.458 FPS
23384 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4676.722 FPS
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 430 @ 2.27GHz
Core 0: @1199 1: @1199 2: @1199 3: @1199 MHz
Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express)
(rev 01)
After testing (stuff that I use) on computers with intel,nvidia,and
ati graphics I give 5.4.0.2 a thumbs up No problems here.
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dennis-slacko531

Joined: 18 Jan 2012 Posts: 75 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Fri 08 Feb 2013, 04:55 Post subject:
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Got my girlfriends laptop setup w/Slacko 5.4.1 Beta. It has win7 on it too.
I hope the splash screen clears up when I grub4dos it in a momemt.
Because I also installed ArchPup it's making her beloved win7 harder to find
due to the advanced menu (kind of a grub thing, right?).
I like your Slacko's because they work excellent on this budget laptop.
HP G60-441 (3 1/2 years old)
Everything works with little or no interventions.
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