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artsown

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PostPosted: Wed 06 Feb 2013, 17:38    Post subject:  

3.5.2.3 works well on my old pentium 4 desktops. Very fast! I was impressed that the
repo supplied me with a working Sylpheed with no hassles. First pup I've ever tried
that has no email app (that I could find).

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pemasu


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PostPosted: Wed 06 Feb 2013, 17:42    Post subject:  

Artsown. I havent provided email app with most of my builds. It started with Snow Puppy. You can check my thoughts about preinstalled email app in that thread, first post. Since then I havent much provided it. And yes....Sylpheed works oob, what I tested from debian repo. And it does not need gtk3 !!! as in Precise Puppy. I use Thunderbird...symlinked from /mnt/home, some uses Simple Mail addon with Firefox, most uses Gmail or other webmail and so on. So many preferences.

I am going to provide quite little of preinstalled apps. Not gonna grow the build as I have done with Dpup Exprimo. The debian repo provides so much good stuff. Just use it. And Puppy apps can be found from the murga-linux forum.
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James C


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PostPosted: Wed 06 Feb 2013, 17:56    Post subject:  

pemasu wrote:
Okay. Peebee has been busy. He has posted to the Slacko thread and to the Barry`s blog.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=683035#683035
So...the fix can be done by downgrading the initrd ntfs-3g, which means that savefile problem comes back with compressed ntfs. So many of us really need and use compressed ntfs with Puppy. Right ?


When not to use NTFS compression
http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kbase/WindowsTips/WindowsServer2008/AdminTips/Miscellaneous/WhennottouseNTFScompression.html

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NTFS compression can cause performance degradation since a compressed NTFS file is first decompressed, then copied, and finally recompressed as a new file. In addition, compression can increase the fragmentation of your drive if frequent writes are involved.

As a result, you should only use NTFS compression on clients and not on servers. The only types of servers where it might be ok to use compression would be those where files are read but rarely written, such as Web servers serving up static pages to clients.

As a caveat, even on clients it's not usually a good idea to compress operating system files such as the system32 folder. Compress your data folder instead, but only if your data is relatively static. Or better yet, add more hard drive space since large hard drives are increasingly affordable.


I regretfully still use Windows every day....... but I don't even consider using compressed NTFS. Bigger hard drives are cheap. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed 06 Feb 2013, 18:01    Post subject:  

James C. I have lived in the era when things were opposite. Our first server in my previous company had 100 Mb massive hdd. At home hdd was about 10 Mb. And this was needed. Even companies used it to preserve precious hdd space.
http://www.quickerwit.com/product.cfm?p1=3002&p2=1&p3=3

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James C


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PostPosted: Wed 06 Feb 2013, 18:13    Post subject:  

I only go back to the 5 1/4 -inch floppy era...... Smile

One more...

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/251186

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While NTFS file system compression can save disk space, compressing data can adversely affect performance.
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PostPosted: Wed 06 Feb 2013, 18:16    Post subject:  

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I only go back to the 5 1/4 -inch floppy era......

Heh. I stored my gradu statistical analysis to that kind floppy -89-90. The statistical app and comp were really fascinating pieces.
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James C


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PostPosted: Wed 06 Feb 2013, 18:26    Post subject:  

pemasu wrote:
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I only go back to the 5 1/4 -inch floppy era......

Heh. I stored my gradu statistical analysis to that kind floppy -89-90. The statistical app and comp were really fascinating pieces.


We probably should change the subject before people start thinking we're old.... Laughing

Time for a nap. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed 06 Feb 2013, 18:34    Post subject:  

http://globalgeeknews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Floppy-Disk-Car.jpg
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artsown

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PostPosted: Wed 06 Feb 2013, 20:29    Post subject:  

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg/wheezy.png

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Feb 2013, 01:04    Post subject: 3.5.2.3  

Really coming together for you pemasu! I knew you had what it takes Wink

Only thing I notice on 3.5.2.3 is that NASA thing still jumping back and forth between the video and pupTelly main menu...
Yea, those fly's are a real pest on the monitor, always makes extra dots in the code Smile Smile Smile

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Feb 2013, 03:30    Post subject:  

http://smokey01.com/pemasu/DpupWheezy/DpupWheezy3522/

says it can not find it so I stripped off to this
http://smokey01.com/pemasu/
and that worked and there one could find the iso
http://smokey01.com/pemasu/DpupWheezy/DpupWheezy3522/

Surprise is that they look same one work the other does not so odd.
I click on the first page link it fails then I go manually
and it works and that is same link so what could that be about?

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pemasu


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PostPosted: Thu 07 Feb 2013, 09:49    Post subject:  

Download link in the first post has been fixed. I have removed a lot stuff from my repository, granted by Smokey01. The host server needed freeing up the disk space so...I have removed several Gb`s of old stuff.
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artsown

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Feb 2013, 10:19    Post subject:  

Failed to get a working Conky from the repos. It wasn't clear to me which Conky to
install from the default repo and I wound up installing all three. No luck. Missing dependency
and lib. So I uninstalled all three and tried tried Conky-all from debian-wheezy-contrib (system)
and still no luck. Searched all repos for the missing files with no hits.

If I copied correctly, the missing files are libcurl-gnutils.so.4 and libtiff43.9.5-3~libxft22.1.1

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anikin

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Feb 2013, 12:39    Post subject: Re: Dpup Wheezy. Woof2 built debian wheezy packages based Puppy
Subject description: Kernel 3.5.2, recent woof used, debian wheezy packages repos
 

pemasu wrote:
Dpup Wheezy

Here is the latest announcement of Dpup Wheezy 3.5.2.3 : http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=682794#682794

Hi pemasu,

I'm really sorry to bother you with this one, but I badly need that 'eee fan control' to be able to test this new release. Using my netbook without it becomes torture.

Thank you in advance for all your good work.

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Feb 2013, 15:32    Post subject:  

Anikin. This is the previous patched eee.ko module, compiled for this kernel.
eee_fan_cpu-k3.5.2.pet
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