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Archpup 13.2 info
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mavrothal


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PostPosted: Thu 07 Feb 2013, 08:54    Post subject:  
cinclus_cinclus wrote:
Did someone try to set keyboard mapping by /etc/locale.gen and locale-gen in 13.2?

In my case I have uncommented the german settings in /etc/locale.ben but then locale-gen says it cannot find /usr/bin/localedef - though that program exists.[

Yes, I had this problem with localdef and locale (when I was trying to get quicksetup going). There is something wrong with the ones in the build.
I _think_ that it does work after you have a savefile but not on first boot. (I have to verify that but I do have an Archpup-13.2 system that I know it works and I also know that on a pfix=ram it does not)
What wories me is that locale/localefef is part of the glibc package... Confused


cinclus_cinclus wrote:
Second question: what is the root password for archpup?

Is in the included documentation Wink
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Feb 2013, 12:42    Post subject: Re: Quickset for Archpup 13.2  
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Feb 2013, 15:22    Post subject:  
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simargl8

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Feb 2013, 04:32    Post subject:  
@cinclus_cinclus: I've tested changing language settings, and it works - just follow instructions in the Help file Wink
Also paka script that converts Arch packages now has support for having more than one locale
saved in main iso. Earlier all non-english /usr/share/locale files were remove, now I could leave some more in (like Serbian Cool )
Here's screenshot:
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PostPosted: Fri 08 Feb 2013, 06:29    Post subject:  
simargl,
can you please have a look at my issue as well?
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rameshiyer

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Feb 2013, 06:41    Post subject: Pet package Installation
Subject description: Trouble in installation		  
Mavrotha


I have tried to install some of the PET after installing your pet installer. However, showing error, hence not installed anything through your application.
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mavrothal


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PostPosted: Fri 08 Feb 2013, 07:58    Post subject: Re: Pet package Installation
Subject description: Trouble in installation		  
rameshiyer wrote:
Mavrotha


I have tried to install some of the PET after installing your pet installer. However, showing error, hence not installed anything through your application.


If you tell me the "error" I might be able to say something...
(My magician powers are limited)
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PostPosted: Fri 08 Feb 2013, 08:06    Post subject:  
simargl8 wrote:

Also paka script that converts Arch packages now has support for having more than one locale
saved in main iso. Earlier all non-english /usr/share/locale files were remove, now I could leave some more in (like Serbian Cool )
Here's screenshot:


Language support is very important, but can really inflate the SFS. Ideally paka will split the languages out and than could be offered as add-on packages.
So one could install only the language of interest (puppy does that but has support for only a handful of languages)
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PostPosted: Fri 08 Feb 2013, 09:12    Post subject:  
marvothol, thanks for the packages.

Unpet is missing /usr/share/pixmaps/ sqashfs-image.png for the uninstall sfs button, the package manager button opens the same window and remove built in packages doesn't apply to Archpup. I got rid of the last and changed ppm to open inpet (nice job on that by the way, should be very handy)

Quickset is a nice one to have, although I am having a hell of a time getting Archpup to show the right time and date after reboot. Hwclock=localtime, and cmos is correct as well. Anyway, I only had to comment out 1 line to get set-time-for puppy to work so a least I can easily change to the correct date/time.

Below is a tar.gz with the files in the proper folders for set-time-for-puppy. Maybe someone could make an arch package for it, I haven't figured that out yet.
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PostPosted: Fri 08 Feb 2013, 10:11    Post subject:  
anikin wrote:
simargl,
can you please have a look at my issue as well?

Xorg :0 -configure will not work if Xorg is active.
Comment this in /etc/profile
Code:
else
  if [ $X_AUTOLOGIN == "yes" ]; then exec archpupx; fi

then logout
Type X -configure, and copy /root/xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
Check if archpupx works.
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PostPosted: Fri 08 Feb 2013, 11:39    Post subject:  
rg66 wrote:

Unpet is missing /usr/share/pixmaps/ sqashfs-image.png for the uninstall sfs button, the package manager button opens the same window and remove built in packages doesn't apply to Archpup. I got rid of the last and changed ppm to open inpet (nice job on that by the way, should be very handy)


Thanks.
Fixed in v0.2 above

rg66 wrote:
Maybe someone could make an arch package for it, I haven't figured that out yet.


You do it! Actually once you have the tarbal uploaded somewhere (ie above Wink ) and you do not need to compile anything, in a folder you have a file named "PKGBUILD" that looks like this.

Code:
# This is an example PKGBUILD file.

#Maintainer:
pkgname=petmanager_archpup # should be the same as your tar.gz file
pkgver=0.2  # should be the same as your tar.gz file
pkgrel=1
epoch=
pkgdesc="Install and uninstall puppy linux pet packages in Archpup"
arch=('i686' 'x86_64')
url="http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=674495#674495" # some info page on the program
license=('GPL2')
groups=()
depends=()
makedepends=()
checkdepends=('pupmessaging')
optdepends=()
provides=('petget' 'inpet.sh' 'unpet.sh')
conflicts=()
replaces=()
backup=()
options=()
install='petmanager_archpup.install' # Use only if your pet has a p(un)install.sh
changelog=
source=("$pkgname-$pkgver.tar.gz::http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=64362") # This is the download link in the forum
noextract=()
md5sums=('a0f8201f4bad9c6b4aa193a8706165e9') #this is for the tar.gz that you'll download


package() {
  cd "$srcdir/$pkgname-$pkgver"
  rm -f pet.specs pinstall.sh puninstall.sh
  mv * "$pkgdir/"
}

# vim:set ts=2 sw=2 et:


If the pet has a pinstall you also need a file named "package_name.install" and there you put the "body of the pinstall.sh script in the "post_install" function. It looks like this.
Code:

post_install() {
   [ ! -d /root/.packages ] && mkdir root/.packages
   touch root/.packages/Packages-puppy-fake
   cat << EOF >> root/.packages/INFO
This folder contains information for the installed pets and the files
in each pet you installed.
If you uninstall petmanager_archpup without uninstalling all the pets
you may have installed, can help you to remove the files.
EOF
 
}


You can also have a "post_uninstall" function if your pet has a puninstall.sh.
Where it becomes tricky is if your pet has a /root/Startup file. In this case you post_install function should also have some sed command to add starting of the program in /root/.start. Something like
Code:
sed -i 's/volumeicon \&/volumeicon \& \
exec \/root\/Startup\/app_to_start/' /root/.start


When your PKGBUILD and your Packgename.install (if needed) files are ready just type
Code:
makepkg --asroot


There!
Now lets have the package Smile
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PostPosted: Fri 08 Feb 2013, 13:09    Post subject:  
Good to see everything progressing with ArchPup

Still in love with it
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PostPosted: Fri 08 Feb 2013, 17:29    Post subject: Re: Pet package Installation
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rameshiyer wrote:

I have tried to install some of the PET after installing your pet installer. However, showing error, hence not installed anything through your application.


The truncate version af Archpup 13.2 is incompatible with find_cat.
Try version 0.4 above.
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PostPosted: Fri 08 Feb 2013, 23:44    Post subject:  
@mavrothal

Wow, u've got a lot of 'coolness' going on in here.

The tools though, and pretty much the whole project is a lil scattered all over the place. Don't you think we should set up a webpage of some sort. that links to the custom packages, and desktops, and ISOs?

Also explaining the tips and tricks and neat features the system has? The info is spread out over about 6 threads. funny as it may sound, i just started using 'makesfs' today. i've been doing in the hard way. primarily due to a lack of knowledge.

I made a post over on Arch Linux forums, and linked them to Puppy Projects to learn more about the distro. which really isn't an ideal location. There's really nowhere that is. Nowhere to tell someone, "Hey go check out ArchPup." and link them to a clean location, that illustrates exactly how to use it and also to download it.
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PostPosted: Sat 09 Feb 2013, 01:29    Post subject:  
stifiling wrote:

The tools though, and pretty much the whole project is a lil scattered all over the place. Don't you think we should set up a webpage of some sort. that links to the custom packages, and desktops, and ISOs?


I would agree about the scattering, but I'm not sure about the consolidation simply because there are different ideas about it.
Sinisa is developing the system trying to find the right mix of things, without a lot of consideration of bug squashing and polishing.
That is understandably since the next version may be different enough not to have these issues, and also the rolling nature of Arch.

You appear more interested in a modern fully fledged desktop and functionality, regardless of size and speed, targeting newer bigger desktop and laptops.

I (my target machines) would like Archpup to keep the better aspects of puppy. ie the apps and scripts and wizards that provide a fully functional system for almost for any hardware, at ~150MB. Currently archpup to do the same needs 250MB+, thus my efforts for puppyfication.
(Case in point compare Saluki to the XFCE-Archoup. Almost twice the size and still without any office apps)

Add Sinisa's temporary "disappearance" Shocked and scattering is in full blow.

Regarding a new site then. Archpup has a site, Sourceforge. It is up to Sinisa (or someone willing to help and Sinisa willing to grand access Wink ) to beef it up.
Archpup also has a wiki page that could be polished, beefed-up and serve as an entry point.

Of course could have its own new site (LXpup has a nice one for example), but if it is going to be more than an entry point, needs whoever is producing the ISOs to be on top of it.
I'll contribute if I can.

Edit: typos.
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