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mavrothal


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PostPosted: Mon 11 Feb 2013, 23:39    Post subject:  

stifiling wrote:
mavrothal wrote:
I also noticed that some of the directories in your SFSs have 777 permissions!


i resolved this on the xfce and lxde desktops. i temporarily disabled the link on the kde one until i repair it.


Almost. But I'm guessing with a crude shortcut ("find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;" or something...)
Now ALL the folders are 755 including /tmp that should be 777.
On the other hand ALL the files remain 777.
I'm afraid rebuilding the SFSs is the way to go here

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 01:49    Post subject:  

mavrothal wrote:
Almost but I'm guessing with a crude shortcut!
Now ALL the folders are 755 including /tmp that should be 777.
On the other hand ALL the files remain 777.
I'm afraid rebuilding the SFSs is the way to go here


ok, so the folders should be 755, files 755, and /tmp 777?

or folders 755, files 777 and /tmp 777?
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 01:59    Post subject:  

stifiling wrote:
mavrothal wrote:
Almost but I'm guessing with a crude shortcut!
Now ALL the folders are 755 including /tmp that should be 777.
On the other hand ALL the files remain 777.
I'm afraid rebuilding the SFSs is the way to go here


ok, so the folders should be 755, files 755, and /tmp 777?

or folders 755, files 777 and /tmp 777?


folders: 755, /tmp: 777, files whatever is needed from 400 to 777.
Executables are usually 755, other files 644 or 664, symlinks 777 but there are more cases and files with other "sticky bits" etc. (crash course here Very Happy )
That's why I said "rebuild", starting from the arch packages and arch2sfs

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 04:58    Post subject:  

So that was causing wrong file permissions someone reported. It thought
problematic was some crappy pet package and mavrothal's script, and we
almost start a fight about this... Surprised

Someone could say "who cares for file/folder permission?" in root only system,
on the other side I very much disagree. It is major problem and big
annoyance, although it's easier to fix in Archpup than in a standard full install
linux, Stifiling please correct that, when you find time.

Not just NTFS, also FAT32 formatted disk sets all permissions to 777, but
this wouldn't have happened if you recreated sfs inside your savefile.
I would recommend resizing NTFS and making new ext4 partition, that would
be the best option. BTW, correct permissions for /tmp are 1777.
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 05:54    Post subject:  

simargl wrote:
BTW, correct permissions for /tmp are 1777.

It is in the link I provided but sticky bits is the least of the problem and in a single user, root system, almost irrelevant.

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 06:03    Post subject:  

You forget about unprivileged user called arch Wink , but np mav I know what you mean
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 06:23    Post subject:  

i just uploaded an updated xfce.sfs. could you guys give it a quick test drive, so i can be certain it's on par with the rest of the system...

i totally reinstalled all the packages, this time working from an ext3 partition.
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 06:53    Post subject:  

Can not for the next few hours.
If you want mount it and
Code:
ls -lR /initrd/pup_a/* > dir_tree.txt
and attach it here or in a PM to take a look.
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 07:03    Post subject:  

mavrothal wrote:
Can not for the next few hours.
If you want mount it and
Code:
ls -lR /initrd/pup_a/* > dir_tree.txt
and attach it here or in a PM to take a look.


the file is abt 1mb. had to use datafilehost..

dir_tree.txt
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 07:25    Post subject:  

I think it's fine now. To make sure just install some random package, and then remove it. If something is wrong pacman will complain.
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 07:49    Post subject:  

stifiling wrote:
Can not for the next few hours.
If you want mount it and
Code:
ls -lR /initrd/pup_a/* > dir_tree.txt
and attach it here or in a PM to take a look.


There are some minor issues (I think from older files you added) like desktop directories, images in the themes, filemnt, freememapplet_tray, rc.local some udev rules, xdg menus etc. The most important is /usr/bin/thunar. Should be 755.

stifiling wrote:
the file is abt 1mb. had to use datafilehost..

dir_tree.txt

Gzipped is only 128K Wink

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 08:01    Post subject:  

mavrothal wrote:
There are some minor issues (I think from older files you added) like desktop directories, images in the themes, filemnt, freememapplet_tray, rc.local some udev rules, xdg menus etc. The most important is /usr/bin/thunar. Should be 755.


should all the ones you've listed/all the ones i've manually added...be 755? how do you know what's suppose to be what? i looked at the page you linked to...but that's like an 'essay' worth of information.
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 08:10    Post subject:  

How did you manage to check all that so fast? I'm now on xp uploading
smaller (80Mb) iso image, so I just quickly looked and it seemed ok.

I like your attention to details, actually you're the reason why I returned to
this forum and released 13.2.1 version (planned to quit after 13.2)

New plan is, I'll make it until it's fun. And fun is to discover something where
mav was wrong like 1777 on /tmp, makes me feel good Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 08:14    Post subject:  

simargl wrote:
And fun is to discover something where
mav was wrong like 1777 on /tmp, makes me feel good Laughing Laughing


lol..it's a rare occasion. i guess enjoy it while u've got the chance.
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 08:25    Post subject:  

I'm just fooling around while this thing uploads. mav is cool guy, do you know
where is he from, i thought first usa but he's name is greek. although maybe he wants to stay anonymous.
And stif where are you from, you cand send Pm if you want to
OMG upload crashed at 70% WITHOUT any reason Evil or Very Mad Mad .
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