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pemasu


Joined: 08 Jul 2009
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Location: Finland

PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 02:10    Post subject:  

OscarTalks. That repo is Debian multimedia main repo. And yeah....it has newer versions of same apps and those apps uses newer libs so it offers them. I had to narrow the real name. It should download from there if you select different download location, if I remember right, it was multimedia. I am atm in experimental Barrys 3.8 rc kernel Precise Puppy, because I really need to know what 3.8 kernel offers. I have spent last evening reading about 3.8 kernel. It sure has some improvements. So...I cant write things exactly how they work in dpup wheezy.

That multimedia repo also has multimedia apps which are not in those main repos.

Sure it is confusing....but there are really good stuff also and that repo will be updated with new stuff also.

Not sure yet if it will brake existing apps. If I download newer libx264, the previous one is not overwritten. Okay libx264.so will point tho the newer one...but I believe ffmpeg still finds the older real one.

To download from there an app. Yeah....it needs understanding that the base libs might come first from debian main repo and then you need to click the multimedia repo when the PPM asks from where to download all those dmo packages. Usually the suffix dmo tells that okay....these are from multimedia repo.

So....you need to swap the download location during downloading if you want to download stuff which needs stuff from main and multimedia repo.

I have had multimedia main repo long time in dpup exprimo. It is there so that people have opportunity to have extra stuff from there.

And...previously....with squeeze...some multimedia libs are only in multimedia main repo. When I compiled multimedia apps, I had to have access to that repo. I havent investigated what is the status now. At least the base distro didnt use them at all.

Anyway....just disable the repo if it has side effects. Of course at this stage of the build....I would more likely to hear what it brakes if you download apps from there.

Updating process of the database files. It sure is confusing. PPM notices that I have distro which might have update repos and asks if you want to download from them...if you click yes....it tries to download from there...but with debian wheezy....there arent any update repos available and at least multimedia update repo trial brakes the script. I would not like to try to hack Barrys PPM system.

You can check inside /root/.packages/Packages-debian-wheezy-mmd_main database file to see all those packages the debian multimedia repo offers. It has some useful multimedia apps there...and that repo also will be updated all the time with newer versions. So....not sure if it should be disabled.
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artsown

Joined: 12 Sep 2012
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 11:02    Post subject:  

Pemasu, I did a frugal of Barry's precise 5.4.91 on k3.8rc7 and
wlan0 power management is ON by default. It has the wireless
bug. I had difficulty connecting, download speeds were low, and
it lost connection. My fix took care of it ok.

This precise and kernel allow me to use the Linux rt2500pci
driver, unlike your 3.7.2 where I had to use my Windows driver.
Maybe it was this that perhaps fooled me into believing that
the 3.7.2 kernel is free of the bug. Maybe it just affects the
Linux driver ??? IOW, why would the bug return on a later kernel?
But then why would power management be OFF by default
with 3.7.2 simply because I had to use the Windows driver?

Maybe you can make more sense of what I've seen than I can.

Art
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pemasu


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Location: Finland

PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 11:13    Post subject:  

Artsown. Good to hear that rt2500pci works better with 3.8 rc kernel, I mean that you able to use it.
About that power management. I think it is because of your usage of windows driver. You use it with ndiswrapper, which unloads possibly loaded linux drivers. Power management probably does not count on windows driver.

Anyway....it looks like that rt2500pci power management feature is still not fixed but the driver at least is usable.

Posting this from Precise Puppy with 3.8 rc kernel. Working fine for me.
There are some new wireless drivers included also. Like realtek rtl8723ae, but Barry didnt include the needed firmwares for it. I have hunted those down now and have them in repository, lol.

# modinfo rtl8723ae
firmware: rtlwifi/rtl8723aefw_B.bin
firmware: rtlwifi/rtl8723aefw.bin
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artsown

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 12:42    Post subject:  

Well, pemasu, I've learned the hard way to not make a quick judgement
about a particular pup. But so far Barry's 5.4.91 is looking very good
on my old pentium 4 desktop. I've played with changing the screen res.
and selecting the video driver and that went ok. I've rebooted several
times and installed some pets, and also used PPM to d/l and install
Firefox 18.02.

There are now so many pups that work well (and fast!) on my old PCs
that it's difficult to choose a "best".

Art
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 12:54    Post subject:  

Artsown. Heh. Why you should choose best ?
You can have kennel of best Puppies easily.
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RoDoN

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PostPosted: Wed 13 Feb 2013, 08:06    Post subject:  

In distro Dpup Wheezy 3.5.2.4 is modesetting driver, but it doesn't work with the videocard GMA 500, it is possible because there is no file /etc/X11/xorg.conf-poulsbo.
If to start xorgwizard, then X is not loaded.

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01micko


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PostPosted: Wed 13 Feb 2013, 08:13    Post subject:  

RoDoN wrote:
In distro Dpup Wheezy 3.5.2.4 is modesetting driver, but it doesn't work with the videocard GMA 500, it is possible because there is no file /etc/X11/xorg.conf-poulsbo.
If to start xorgwizard, then X is not loaded.

@ pemasu, see this package for insight to RoDoN's issue..
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet_packages-slacko14/z_xorg-130203.pet
.. but be aware it's not the latest and is still under development.

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OscarTalks

Joined: 05 Feb 2012
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Location: London, England

PostPosted: Wed 13 Feb 2013, 09:46    Post subject:  

Here is Linphone 3.5.2 with all the extra audio and video codec plugins included and the assistant wizard working. Compiled in Wheezy 3.5.2.4

Signing up for a sip account is easy, but it works without. Go through the preferences, I recommend disabling the speex 32000 ultra-wideband audio codec and the VP8 video codec, both of which are at the top of the lists.

Call to "sip:9877@qxip.net" (without the quotes) for the H264 codec video echo test.

With datafilehost you want the smaller "download" button.
The larger "download now" thing is an ad.

Linphone 3.5.2 Wheezy.pet
download = http://www.datafilehost.com/download-d28f5ae0.html
md5sum = b509b6f584b81d3473812e8688c8f78a

Pemasu,

Just a couple of observations / suggestions

Compiling v4l-utils source creates v4l1, v4l2 and v4lconvert libs together.

Consider including v4lconvert.so.0 and the v4lconvert.so symlink

Compiling speex source creates libspeex and libspeexdsp together.

Consider including libspeexdsp with symlinks.

Oh, and please consider upgrading pClock to latest 0.7.1

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Xtanova


Joined: 06 Oct 2012
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Location: Egypt

PostPosted: Thu 14 Feb 2013, 21:08    Post subject: skype 4.1 dependencies  

Hi Pemasu:

I used to be able to use skype 4.1 dynamic on dpup squeeze by loading the Qt4 SFS I had from your repository, with some other gstreamer libs it requests, and I'd downloaded them manually from the debian repository .

On dpup wheezy it didn't work as it keeps requesting the Qt and pulse audio libs despite i had installed them.

I attached the skype dependency sheet, because i don't understand the structure change in the wheezy build, and how can I get skype to find the installed Qt libs.
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Thu 14 Feb 2013, 21:54    Post subject:  

Xtanova.
First I installed this: skype-ubuntu-lucid_4.1.0.20-1_i386.deb and this works also:
Code:
wget -O skype-install.deb http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb

Then I used PPM. It seems that I had to update the debian main repo using configuration button.
After that I installed these using PPM:
libqt4-xml_4.8.2+dfsg-11
libqtcore4_4.8.2+dfsg-11
libqtdbus4_4.8.2+dfsg-11
qdbus_4.8.2+dfsg-11|qdbus
libqt4-dbus_4.8.2+dfsg-11
iso-codes_3.40-1
libaudio2_1.9.3-5
libgstreamer0.10-0_0.10.36-1.1
libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0_0.10.36-1
libqt4-network_4.8.2+dfsg-11
libqtgui4_4.8.2+dfsg-11
libqtwebkit4_2.2.1-5|
libqt4-webkit_4.8.2+dfsg-11

skype launched and sound worked. It complained in console about pulseaudio, well it should because there is not working pulsesaudio system in dpup wheezy. Side effects of the libpulse includement.

Cheers.
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Xtanova


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PostPosted: Fri 15 Feb 2013, 01:01    Post subject:  

Appreciate your help Pemasu .. adding libs from Sid repo fixed the issue. Laughing
No need i guess to blacklist libpulse and install pulseaudio ..thanks for the advice.
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Sat 16 Feb 2013, 17:21    Post subject:  

Dpup Wheezy 3.5.2.5 has been uploaded. I have used latest woof.

Debian main repo with PPM should work now without updating the databases.
Bbe binary has been added so that PPM fixes the root user problem for example with vlc.
Pulseaudio problem fixed ....so that skype does not pollute xerrs.log with error messages. It needed /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf.d directory removal of pulse files. I found the tip from the net.
I have added the support files for intel atom poulsbo graphics, from 01micko`s pet.
And all the fixes included by using latest woof.

So this build is bug fix release for smoother using.

Download link: http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/DpupWheezy/DpupWheezy3525/
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James C


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PostPosted: Sun 17 Feb 2013, 02:54    Post subject:  

Fresh frugal install of 3.5.2.5 on the Athlon XP box...... all looking good so far.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Dpup Wheezy, version 3.5.2.5

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1440x900
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb fbdevhw glx kbd mouse record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#
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James C


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PostPosted: Sun 17 Feb 2013, 03:02    Post subject:  

Did a manual frugal upgrade to 3.5.2.5 on this old P4....... same results....... all looking good.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Dpup Wheezy, version 3.5.2.5

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): intel
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 extmod fb fbdevhw glx kbd mouse record

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video


Code:
# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       2592684       802136      1790548            0        66080
-/+ buffers:             736056      1856628
Swap:      4198396            0      4198396
#
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Joined: 07 Apr 2009
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Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Sun 17 Feb 2013, 03:43    Post subject: Dpup Wheezy. Woof2 built debian wheezy packages based Puppy  

Manual frugal install to a SDHC card.
VIDEO REPORT: Dpup Wheezy, version 3.5.2.5

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G84 [GeForce 8600 GT] (rev a1)
Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416)
Video Decoder (rev 01)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
24
24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe
Drivers requested to be loaded: nvidia fbdev vesa

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nvidia
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 extmod glx kbd mouse ramdac record wfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1440x900 pixels (373x231 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

It didn't see my ethernet at first, SNS seems to work better than
Network manager.
Ethernet controller Intel Corporation 82566DC-2 Gigabit Network Connection
Pets made in Upup precise wouldn't work so I made a few in wheezy
(xfe and mc) both compiled without problems.
I installed lxterminal in ppm.
That's it so far.
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