Precise Puppy 5.5 Release Candidate

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5.4.91-K3.8rc7

#81 Post by sszindian »

Precise-5.4.91-K3.8rc7

Been running this most of the day, installed same programs I did in 5.4.90. Everything went smooth without problem one!

Linksys-AE1000 using the rt2800ubs installed on the first shot and is remaining rock-solid through Internet usage and reboots (have to admit, this is the FIRST time it installed on the first try, even 5.4.90 took TWO tries to get it going.)

It used to be that running certain programs you could tell which puppy performed the best and run the fastest... with all the new puppy builds that have recently come on stage (non PAE)... it is hard, very hard indeed to say which is now superior... so, I run them all :)

This build (5.4.91+) is indeed very, very nice and the latest kernel... can't really say what it does better than the previous 3.+ ones but for sure there has to be advantages somewhere?

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#82 Post by linuxcbon »

Precise puppy 5.4.90 :
- /dev/dri should belong to "video" group. Same for /dev/dvb , /dev/fw* , /dev/vbi* and /dev/video*
- /dev/console should belong to group "tty"
- sda16 has device numbers 259,0 but should not exist, device documentation says limit to sda15. Same for sdb16 sdc16 etc.
- /dev/ram should be a link to /dev/ram1 ?
- /etc/host.conf could have line "nospoof on" for security
- /etc/group can be simplified to 19 groups or less
- weird thing, takes a long time to boot, to load kernel in RAM.
- new big files are there (LLVM, ICU, Seamonkey).
- In general a better puppy with less bugs.

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Re: Problem with report-video

#83 Post by BarryK »

ETP wrote:
BarryK wrote:
ETP wrote:Currently picks up my pci DVB-T card details rather than my graphics card.
ETP,
Would you mind running these two, and post them here (this forum thread):

# scanpci | gzip - > scanpci.log.gz
# lspci | gzip - > lspci.log.gz
Barry,

Logs are attached from 5.4.91 which has the same issue.
Thanks, I have fixed the "Chip description" part of report-video.
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Re: Drive icon issue with SD cards.

#84 Post by BarryK »

ETP wrote:I am curious as to why these are only ever displayed as USB icons rather than card icons.
Is this a hardware issue or a bug? - It seems to afflict Slacko as well as Precise.
It applies regardless of the theme being used. Here is an example:

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sh-3.00# probedisk2
/dev/sda|drive|ATA SAMSUNG SSD 830 
/dev/sdb|usbdrv|Generic Flash HS-CF 
/dev/sdc|usbdrv|Generic Flash HS-MS/SD 
/dev/sdd|usbdrv|Generic Flash HS-SM 
/dev/sr0|optical|SONY DVD RW DW-G120A 
sh-3.00# blkid
/dev/loop1: UUID="f50f62c8-576a-4489-9b81-b520b97e44d3" TYPE="ext3"
/dev/sda1: UUID="9AD88DCED88DA8D9" TYPE="ntfs"
/dev/sdc1: LABEL="SD-CARD" UUID="225A-B7FE" TYPE="vfat"
sh-3.00# 
It's a hardware issue, but not a bug.

1.
If the card slot is internal to the computer, your computer interfaces the card slot to a usb channel.

2.
Or, if using a usb card-reader, then from Puppy's point of view it will look like a usb device. This is effectively the same situation as 1.

My current laptop has situation 1. My older laptop had a proper card reader interfaced to the pci bus, so Puppy recognised the card as a card.
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#85 Post by BarryK »

zigbert wrote:Alsa
I have 2 soundcards, and the one I want to use is hw:1 (default is hw:0 set). So I run 'Multiple sound card wizard'. It fails in the last stage since retvol doesn't change to hw:1. This has been fixed for Slacko 5.4 by 01micko.
I am puzzled by this. Multiple Sound Card Wizard is the 'mscw' PET, but I can't see any such PET in the slacko repos.
Or was retrovol modified? -- but there is no upgraded 'retrovol' PET in the slacko repos either.

So, what was modified?
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#86 Post by 01micko »

Sorry about that Barry, it's likely in my z_base_hacks pet, I'll need to check if I uploaded the latest though. However it was in slacko-5.4 so should be there. (edit, confirmed it is there)

The cool thing is that you don't need the reboot, it "just works" , though volume settings may be out.
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#87 Post by don570 »

right click package should work for precise

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#88 Post by vicmz »

zigbert wrote:As I wrote in the Slacko thread:
Puppy has a very aggressive mouse pointer. Its default acceleration is set to 2 with a threshold of 4. This will give me inflammation in my mouse arm, so in all these Puppy years I have set it to 1.2 (acceleration) and 13 (threshold). Well, I will not state what is correct, but how can a newbie find the setting? Is pupX set properties of X informative? - Doubt it. And I think it would be good with a link in the mouse/keyboard wizard. I wouldn't be surprised if that is the place a newbie would look.
Thanks so much for this! I have an old, sensitive mouse that is driving me crazy. Until I buy a new one, this and the Xorg keys will do.
zigbert wrote:Talking about menu descriptions, it may be worth to rethink 'JWM configuration' as well.
I agree.
Or at least put a scrollbar in the JWM theme chooser, so that having many themes won't expand the GUI from roof to floor -- at times I think the Exit button will reach China. :lol: The same happens in the Icon Set Chooser GUI, a scrollbar for that one would be great, too. :D
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#89 Post by slenkar »

Ive been using precise 5.4.3 every day for a few weeks, i needed to reformat my partition to get a swap file
so I installed this latest one and it seems fine so far
thanks!

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#90 Post by feelsub »

it would be good to hear your thoughts about this. It is basically NOT a problem to support both, but they are not equal, so the backend I use daily will be the only well tested solution. Atm, I am developing on Slacko which uses ffmpeg. As I see it, there are 3 temporary ways out of it.
1). Precise use libav and find another player.
2.) Precise use ffmpeg and use pMusic.
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Under win7 I use FFMpeg 1.1 64bits (and report bugs since 0.10)
Ubuntu is stucked with branch 0.8 for some intestine quarrel...
Try always to use latest ffmpeg build (being so complex(so many codecs) and powerfull(filters, etc.) it constantly fixes bugs in a branch).

Now also, ntfs-3g has released a new one:
http://www.tuxera.com/community/release-history/

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#91 Post by BarryK »

vicmz wrote:
zigbert wrote:As I wrote in the Slacko thread:
Puppy has a very aggressive mouse pointer. Its default acceleration is set to 2 with a threshold of 4. This will give me inflammation in my mouse arm, so in all these Puppy years I have set it to 1.2 (acceleration) and 13 (threshold). Well, I will not state what is correct, but how can a newbie find the setting? Is pupX set properties of X informative? - Doubt it. And I think it would be good with a link in the mouse/keyboard wizard. I wouldn't be surprised if that is the place a newbie would look.
Thanks so much for this! I have an old, sensitive mouse that is driving me crazy. Until I buy a new one, this and the Xorg keys will do.
zigbert wrote:Talking about menu descriptions, it may be worth to rethink 'JWM configuration' as well.
I agree.
Or at least put a scrollbar in the JWM theme chooser, so that having many themes won't expand the GUI from roof to floor -- at times I think the Exit button will reach China. :lol: The same happens in the Icon Set Chooser GUI, a scrollbar for that one would be great, too. :D
Well, on the topic of adjusting mouse sensitivity, yes, good idea to add a button -- this is added in script 'input-wizard'.
Done in Woof, will be uploaded soon.
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#92 Post by LateAdopter »

Hello BarryK

I see from your blog that you a planning to compile 3.8 with an updated configuration.

If possible could you also configure CPUID and MSR kernel modules in your DOTconfig, please?

Thanks.

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#93 Post by pemasu »

Barry. 3.8 kernel. For enabling brcmsmac driver you need to add bcma support as module and also under wireless, the bcma support for broadcom, then you will see brcmsmac as tickable option.
Proprietary wl.ko though is the only supporting driver for many chips. brcmsmac and brcmfmac does not cover them all.

New wireless realtek driver rtl8723ae.ko was in your 3.8 rc kernel. It needs 2 supporting firmwares. I cant show modinfo for the driver (not in 3.8 kernel puppy now), but the attached firmwares should be the right ones.
They can be placed to the all-firmware/rtlwifi folder....if you wish. And according firmware.dep editing. There are already in linux world posts about need for that driver and questions how to get it to work with chips which needs it. So...seems reasonable to include the firmwares also.
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#94 Post by pemasu »

3.8 kernel woes continues. rtl8192de.ko module has needed firmware included but firmware.dep misses the definition.
With above new rtl8723ae.ko firmware included the row changes from:
rtlwifi:rtl8192ce.ko,rtl8192cu.ko,rtl8192se.ko,r8712u.ko
to:
rtlwifi:rtl8192ce.ko,rtl8192cu.ko,rtl8192de.ko,rtl8192se.ko,r8712u.ko,rtl8723ae.ko

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#95 Post by don570 »

I have warned Barry Kauler that Abispell dictionaries don't work in
Precise (as far as I can tell).

I did a test in Slacko and they did work!! Here's the test...

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 566#685566

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#96 Post by OscarTalks »

Regarding Multiple Sound Card Wizard as mentioned in BarryK's blog.

Is the issue of the random allocation of index numbers at each boot now fixed?

I have several multiple sound card computers here and from my observations this wizard would change the default from index 0 to index 1, but this does not lock things down if the allocation of index numbers to the different detected devices at each boot is random.

Does MSCW now write anything to /ect/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf because normally I have to edit that file manually to resolve this issue?
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Re: 5.4.90 (5.5alpha1)

#97 Post by 01micko »

sszindian wrote:5.4.90

Multimedia

pupRadio/pupTelly streaming media

When NASA is selected in pupTelly... the program 'bounces' back and forth between the pupTelly dialog-box and the video media... stays on NASA about 7-seconds... stays on pupTelly dialog box about 11-seconds, this continually repeats.
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#98 Post by Sage »

The pre-occupation with multiple sound cards seriously misdirects the valuable intellectual challenges facing our developers. Probably count the number of folks who need this facility on one finger (no, not that finger, madam!). Those confronting conflicts with onboard sound have merely to write out the onboard unit in BIOS, assuming they aren't using a cr*p proprietary BIOS on an even more cr*ppy Intel board. [But even these can be over-ridden using a serious BIOS interception utility.]
Those mounting two independent sound cards might try making one of them an old ISA card and using an earlier Puppy variant that has been extensively worked over such as those by TaZoc, ttuuxx and johnbiles.
Generations ago, and also on another Forum that I moderated, I advocated slicing the Vcc line of troublesome onboard sound chips with a scalpel - still and equally valid solution.
Once we can stop people buying Intel and put that worthless organisation into liquidation, many of the world's IT problems will cease. It might also achieve that other most desirable goal of closing down the devil's OS.

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#99 Post by OscarTalks »

Sage,

Sorry, but I don't agree with your assertion that resolving multiple sound card issues is not important.

I often see people on here reporting problems of loss of sound and I believe this may be one of the causes.

Other devices such as modems get detected as sound cards. Common hardware such as webcams plugged into USB ports also becomes detected as additional sound cards on the system in many cases. The percentage of computers which will have more than one is not as small as you suggest.

For those of us who do install additional PCI or USB sound cards because we want the functionality of more than one audio input and output (in order to be able to route audio to and from different places), it would defeat the object to disable one of those cards in the BIOS. The Operating System should be able to detect the sound cards and handle them properly and consistently and I thank those who work to ensure that this is the case in Puppy.
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#100 Post by Sage »

If modems, webcams & co. are detected as sound cards that's an error of detection suggesting an appropriate remedy.
Folks wanting to run two or more sound cards from one PC, and I disagree - it must be an infinitessimal number, would be better advised running two or more old boxes, especially to avoid routing even more cables to other rooms, presuming they're not listening to jazz in one ear and pop in the other. Messing with unnecessary complications in SW is, as I said, severely distracting. Sound, per se, is not intrinsically difficult to achieve on any old junk. Indeed, broken record, the best results can be had from a board with an ISA slot and a genuine SB128. There are also a plethora of modern digital sound devices available from discrete separates and, most probably, your own telly. Most municipal dumps harbour entirely adequate hi-fi boxes.
It is important to define clearly what objectives are required to be met. Suggesting that there are two separate and, implicitly, different sound generators running off one machine in the same room is just silly. Anyone so severely constrained can PM me and I'll send them an old board, gratis.

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