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xstylezx

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Feb 2013, 18:04    Post_subject:  

Congrats on the new release simargl!

Speaking of the graphics drivers, my nvidia 6150se runs great on latest lxpup slacko with nvidia driver 304.64 as shown in nvidia x server settings. I can run games like assaultcube reloaded and 0ad and similar games just fine. Nothing real intensive graphics wise, but they do run great. Personally id be happy getting nouveau working myself. I'm going to try a few things mentioned in this thread when I get a chance, been busy lately. Will try the new version soon as well! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Feb 2013, 14:20    Post_subject: Hi  

Hi

mavrothal

you are making a good thing a little «kaput»

the initial ArchPup was really something new, as a Puppy with the freshness of the initial Puppy's (witch you did probably not know). sigmarl make this time exactly the same error as Barry Kauler itself:

BK did invent the thing with the «save file», a terrible thing, easy to copy, unprotected or as well...

and sigmarl did build this UGGLY ficture in his concept... WRRRRRRRR.H!

sigmarl did build the first "modern" Puppy after years, without save file, without little windows killing the time, and you a few guy's did turn him so, that he did reintroduce the UGGLY FILE and more and more little windows killing the time of the user!

good luck: «You have the distribution on the conscience» (Sie haben die Distribution auf dem Gewissen)!

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nooby

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PostPosted: Wed 20 Feb 2013, 14:58    Post_subject:  

oui interesting what you write here
"sigmarl did build the first "modern" Puppy
after years, without save file"

which iso are you talking about+ Can it still be downloaded?

Maybe you could start a new thread about the good and bad
about having save files? No criticism but this thread is about ArchPup
so will be split up if we start to talk about savefile good and bad on that one.

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PostPosted: Wed 20 Feb 2013, 15:55    Post_subject:  

Hi nooby

which one? this one of course



I am using it daily with Icecat as you can see on the bar...

no smudge windows, no artifice, all best, small, fast and safe at the user side!

Kind regards
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Feb 2013, 18:07    Post_subject:  

oops sorry it is the picture at the http://sourceforge.net/projects/archpup/
http://c.fsdn.com/con/app/proj/archpup/screenshots/archpup-12.12-1.jpg

kernel 3.6.8 but which version of Archpup is it? Maybe this one
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=83064

ArchPup 12.12.2 archpup-12.12.2.iso
I actually have that one by accident Smile

But I do use a savefile so maybe you
did a remaster so you don't need that one.

I need it to do Swedish like åäö and to get keyboard right .

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Feb 2013, 10:32    Post_subject:  

I tried to set Swedish keyboard on Archpup
version 12.12 and the only way I found out was
to go into terminal and do setxkbmap se

is there any other way?

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stifiling

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Feb 2013, 12:51    Post_subject:  

nooby wrote:
I tried to set Swedish keyboard on Archpup
version 12.12 and the only way I found out was
to go into terminal and do setxkbmap se

is there any other way?


nooby,

was wondering why you prefer using the older 12.12 over the new 13.2.2 archpup? the new archpup has the archlocale_132.sfs.
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Feb 2013, 12:59    Post_subject:  

Sim,

I tried putting together a 64 bit version and couldn't get any further than a 'Kernel Panic'. I know u said earlier that you would be unable to test a 64 bit archpup...but if you happen to have a gap of free time, and wanted to put forth a 'good try' in building one from the 32 bit system.....i'd be interested in testing it out. who knows? using the same scripts, but the x86_64 repos and a 64 bit kernel....it just might work.
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Feb 2013, 14:34    Post_subject:  

I'm now in process of moving to gtk3, next version will be completely different - without qt, and with minimal gtk2 applications (only sfs-load and lxappearance)

Main sfs will have only gtk2 libraries stored in /opt/gtk2/lib, not the full package..
gtk2 is version 2.24.10 and it is converted from Slitaz Shocked package (saves 500 KB and works perfectly Cool )

Latest gpicview development version from git can be compiled to use gtk3, and it's done

If someone wants this package, let me know I will upload it
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nooby

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Feb 2013, 15:06    Post_subject:  

" the new archpup has the archlocale_132.sfs"

thanks. I am not that good at computers.
so would that sfs work with the old or do i need a new iso?

My take on the word locale is that it make everything Swedish.
Menu and texts translated and so on.

My locale is always English but keyboard Swedish.
then I change that the time zone is Stockholm.

Is that possible with that archlocale_132.sfs ?

What could Oui have done that he does not need a Savefile?

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Feb 2013, 06:19    Post_subject:  

In next version there will be new text editor based on gtk3 - l3afpad http://l3afpad.blogspot.com/ and geany is moved to archdev

Items in menu that required geany, like help files will now call /usr/bin/text-editor and that will execute text editor from specified list.

First on that list is geany, and after come l3afpad, mousepad, gedit... That means default text editor in main sfs is l3afpad,
but after archdev is loaded geany becomes the default.
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Smithy


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PostPosted: Sun 24 Feb 2013, 07:40    Post_subject:  

Just downloaded the Minimal Arch.

Will it do Jack pet, wineasio, rcrn51 canon printers? Green Dome Wines?
Just wondering if there is some special repository for apps, or whether the puppy pets will work with it.
Thanks.

EDIT: Well it looks nice and shiny, but how do you install things, clicked on a pet and it just did a copy of itself onto the hard drive.. I guess it won't do pets, or menu entries. Obviously it is a big departure from the standard puppy way of doing things, could do with a start bar with all the menu entries so you can get there quickly.
i.e Internet Connection, Firewall, Sound Setup, Video Setup. Printer Setup.
Looks very good tho'!

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Feb 2013, 08:49    Post_subject: forum  

The new version 13.2.2 was recently announced together with a new forum. When I registered there, I could not use "raffy" as username, and the forum says
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FYI, thanks.

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Feb 2013, 13:29    Post_subject:  

Smithy,
in standard iso there is pacman GUI application for installing packages, but for minimal version
you'll have to use console. That is also easy Razz, and this guide might be helpful http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=686162#686162

raffy, Ok thanks for that information wi'll try to fix the problem.
I made that forum yesterday as a replacement for sourceforge forum - that one felt too rudimentary.

oui wrote:
sigmarl did build the first "modern" Puppy after years, without save file, without little windows killing the time, and you a few guy's did turn him so, that he did reintroduce the UGGLY FILE and more and more little windows killing the time of the user!

good luck: «You have the distribution on the conscience» (Sie haben die Distribution auf dem Gewissen)!

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Smithy


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PostPosted: Sun 24 Feb 2013, 17:00    Post_subject:  

Thanks for the link Simargl, I must admit I've only used Fdisk and format C:
in a console (and a few Puppy tricks when I had to) and much prefer watching the console in those 70's films Wink
But the archpup has got a nice clean look and feel about it from navigating with the mouse.
Will just keep watching how it develops for now.
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