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CD/DVD burner can see a DVD but not a CD
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beekster

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Feb 2013, 16:46    Post subject:  CD/DVD burner can see a DVD but not a CD  

This discussion got started on another forum thread, how to clear personal storage. The DVD RW / CD Rom drive works fine with DVDs which is great, and there is no audio problem, but the computer can't detect a CD in the drive, so why is that? It would be cool to figure that out. So far, with help (lots of it since I'm a beginner Very Happy ) I've been getting into the console as follows: (BTW, my breed of puppy is Wary5.3)

dmesg > demesg.txt >>
gzip dmesg.txt >>
dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/dev/null bs=2048

At one point, I was able to get a rise out of the drive (lights blinking disc spinning up.)
The drive is a problem, but maybe not as big a problem as the user Laughing
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Semme

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Feb 2013, 16:55    Post subject:  

OK, GOOD! Now- where's this da*n dmesg.txt.gz!

OK, OK.. in your shiny new console: dmesg > dmesg.txt

Open that *file* thing on your desktop.

Find dmesg.txt >> open >> highlight >> copy >> & paste here.

Between co~ nevermind..
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Semme

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Feb 2013, 18:39    Post subject:  

Great! Move it to this thread though- where it belongs.
Code:
scsi 2:0:0:0: CD-ROM            LITE-ON  DVDRW SOHW-1693S KS0B PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 62x/62x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
sr 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0

Done!
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Semme

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Feb 2013, 20:27    Post subject:  

Say, ah.. could you gzip'n upload a copy of your modules.conf?

Yes.. Yet another Laughing exercise in running Pup. Good practice..
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beekster

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Feb 2013, 20:32    Post subject:  

As long as you understand I'm up to my eyeballs in galoshes I'll stumble along! Confused In other words, I don't know how to do that.
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beekster

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Feb 2013, 20:50    Post subject:  

Or I should say I don't know what modules.config is. I have this huge file which is the one in question. Is that what you need to see?
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Semme

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Feb 2013, 21:16    Post subject:  

Menu >> filesystem > Pfind.

Toggle system >> NOT personal.

Load: modules.conf

It's where?

I put it this way so you get to see the utilities Pup has to offer.

Easy copy = two ROX open.

One where you'll find modules.conf..

The other >> possibly your home folder >> /root.

Drag'n drop >> copy.

Now you can rt-clk in a blank area..

Select: window >> terminal here.

Now: gzip <your_copy>

Follow?
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Flash
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Feb 2013, 21:55    Post subject:  

Beekster, it looks to me like your original statement, that Puppy can't see a CD, may be due to the fact that Puppy can't see media that don't have a filesystem on them, which, for some reason I've never been clear on, includes standard audio CDs. Media players, such as Pmusic, can see and will play standard audio CDs, and Pburn will see and burn blank CDs, but Puppy the operating system can't see either one.

Or have I misunderstood the problem?
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beekster

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Feb 2013, 23:02    Post subject:  

Follow?[/quote]

I'm workin' on it. Don't hold your breath!
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beekster

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Feb 2013, 23:09    Post subject:  

Flash wrote:
Beekster, it looks to me like your original statement, that Puppy can't see a CD, may be due to the fact that Puppy can't see media that don't have a filesystem on them, which, for some reason I've never been clear on, includes standard audio CDs.



Perhaps that's true. Anyway, we're workin' on a plan here. Or, should I say, we're workin' on me Laughing I've found the modules.config, now I have to copy and gzip. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Feb 2013, 23:54    Post subject:  

Okay, don't mind me butting in. Very Happy
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Semme

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PostPosted: Wed 27 Feb 2013, 06:49    Post subject:  

Beekster- as Flash states the drives contents require a file system in order to allow mount. Pup should generate a drive icon with a blank cd, but won't be able to mount, or, read it. With images or other types of files, items in or on a file system, Pup should have no problem. This'll cover most file systems out of the box.

With your setup we know DVD's aren't an issue.

These cd's however.. they're not blank, correct?

I think you conveyed audio cd's were the problem.. namely your drives icon no longer showed when loaded, right?

Are these commercial or custom home burned cd's? Ya know, multi-mode.. including videos perhaps?

Any of them with more than just audio content?

Is Wary installed to the hard drive?
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Feb 2013, 10:08    Post subject:  

No, I'm booting wary from a DVD. So, to recap, DVDs are fine; no problem with audio/video. CDs, on the other hand, of any kind, blank, commercial, homemade, don't show up at all. I have heard it's possible for a combo drive to quit working with one or another media, so that's a possibility. It's not worth it to get another drive, and if it's a software issue that would have to be resolved anyway.
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OscarTalks

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PostPosted: Wed 27 Feb 2013, 12:02    Post subject:  

OK so you are running Live DVD (not frugally installed), where is your save-file?

When you put an audio CD into the drive do you get a CD drive icon appearing on your desktop or not?

It would be helpful to boot with "puppy pfix=ram" (when you see the splash screen, you can press F2 to halt the boot if you want) so you boot without the save-file, then remove the boot DVD, put a CD into the drive and see if that works. If it doesn't then you have a problem with the drive hardware. If it works (but then doesn't when you reboot with your save-file loaded) then you have installed something which has messed things up.

The normal default behaviour is that the CD will open and play in pCD when you click on the icon.

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PostPosted: Wed 27 Feb 2013, 16:06    Post subject:  

Yes, I'm running from a live DVD, and the save file is on the hard drive. Before Puppy (BP?) this was a problem. Never got it to play a CD, only DVDs. It seems then it's a hardware issue. I think I'll break down and spend the 25 bucks on a new drive, and then we'll see what happens.

So I set the task of trying to get it working in front of me, and with Semme pushing me along, I've jumped feet first into the world of Puppy Linux, and I gotta say it's been a real eye opener for me Shocked MY first experience using the console, beginning to learn about file system utilities etc.

And I'm going to stick with it. We're already in the middle of a process and I've got to work my way through it.

But, I'm having a good time! Very Happy
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