Wary and Racy Puppy 5.5 Release Candidates

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#21 Post by James C »

Attempting to setup the radio stations or web music in PMusic and I get.......

EDIT:
In Pemasu's Upup Precise I've been using PMusic 3.0.6 with zero problems.
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#22 Post by musher0 »

Hello, Mr. Kauler.

No problems here! Writing this in Opera 12.13 from wary 5.4.90 with enhanced Xorg. My screen has never been this nice. French localization takes a little convincing (5-6 Xorg re-initialisations plus a couple of reboots !) but it does work fine when it finally start.

So, many thanks for this. And "bonne continuation"!

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#23 Post by Sage »

Glad to note not alone in reporting nV issues which seemed to proliferate about six months ago, possibly longer. Maybe ask James & co to swap temporarily to an ATI card, for which I experience zero problems, and report back.

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latest woof download in racy wrong

#24 Post by scsijon »

@BarryK

Sorry, in the latest racy 5.4.91 and with no additional packages yet added, not even a jwm update, and on a box with an intel i915 video. I am getting some display problems.

This is with a fresh woof build of 25 Feb.

I have attached a screeny capture example for comments and sugestions. All Woof pages are showing the same problem and won't resize smaller.

However I'm not sure if it's racy or woof having the problems.

All comments would be appreciated.
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#25 Post by Ray MK »

Hi BK - you have been busy. New Wary, new Racy and a new Quirky. Nice.


Report Video 1.3 - Wed 27 Feb 2013 on Racy Puppy 5.4.91 - Linux 3.8.0 i686

Chip description:
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18)
oem: Intel(R)Ironlake Mobile Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(R)Ironlake Mobile Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0

X Server: Xorg Driver used: intel
X.Org version: 1.11.0
dimensions: 1366x1024 pixels (361x270 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes


Manual frugal to ntfs partition and booting via grub4dos on SDcard. Using the E732 (Emachines) laptop with 2gig ram and an i3 proc.

All seems to be working well OOTB on this machine.
According to top - resource usage is virtually zero.
Nice to see acpitz temp working (40 to 42c average).
New Racy looks nice too. Overall - a luvly Puppy. Many thanks. (forgot to mention - fast - really fast - screams)

Report FYI. (quirky soon)
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#26 Post by James C »

Manual frugal install of the latest Quirky.Just like Racy I had to copy the xorg.conf from another install to get the correct resolution and since it's the same kernel can't mount a flash drive.
Most interesting is that Quirky only seems to boot about 1 time out of three attempts..... the bootloader finds the kernel.qky and all activity ceases.Hard poweroff and eventually it'll go ahead and boot.

# report-video
Report Video 1.3 - Wed 27 Feb 2013 on Racy Puppy 5.4.91 - Linux 3.8.0 i686

Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

X Server: Xorg Driver used: nouveau

X.Org version: 1.11.0
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes


...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz
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Interesting little experiment. :)

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Racy-5.4.91

#27 Post by sszindian »

Racy-5.4.91

This is one 'Blazing-Fast' Puppy, I keep thinking they can't get any faster but 'this one did!'

Did an UPDATE to Racy-5.2.90 to see how well it would go.

Everything went well except for the usual few Icon drops from personal desktop programs and of course the background pic.
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WiFi stayed without issue:
Linksys AE1000 (usb plugin - using rt2800usb)
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Already had a lot of programs installed in 5.2.90 and they all worked as before!
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The 3.8.0 Kernel appears to be working just fine on this old box.
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Internet Graphics & Picture display just don't get any better, crystal clear and coloring as it should be, even in Mplayer
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USB plugins working fine, even my VADO camcorder/camera.
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For those wanting a really good Google Earth sfs program for 5.4.91:
Google Earth-6.0.3.2197-luki.sfs
You can get it here:
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-a5a90a31.html
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And... for those wanting to expermint with a little 'cloud' computing, (or use it for other programs, many other functions) my little cloud.pet works great in Racy-5.4.91
You can get it here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=69192
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-Computer-
Processor : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Memory : 764MB (126MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Puppy Linux
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Wed Feb 27 22:01:57 2013
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI Intel(R) 865G x86/MMX/SSE2
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : ICH4 - Intel ICH5
-Input Devices-
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
2.4G Wireless Mouse
Power Button
Power Button
PC Speaker
-Printers (CUPS)-
CUPS-PDF : <i>Default</i>
HP_Deskjet_1050_J410_series
-SCSI Disks-
ATA SAMSUNG SP1604N
ATA WDC WD1600AAJB-0
TSSTcorp CDW/DVD TS-H492A
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glxgears

212 frames in 5.0 seconds = 42.363 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.837 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.841 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.840 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.841 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.841 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.839 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.846 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.841 FPS
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'Thanks for the very nice Puppy BK'

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#28 Post by Ray MK »

Report Video 1.3 - Wed 27 Feb 2013 on “qky
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Re: Recent ffmpeg PETs

#29 Post by BarryK »

npierce wrote:
BarryK wrote:Note, Wary 5.5RC has ffmpeg 'ffmpeg-0.8.12-1-w5c.pet'.
Wary 5.3 has 'ffmpeg-20111002-w5c.pet'
If I recall rightly, the original ffmpeg lacked network support, and someone, it might have been shinobar, recompiled it, hence the different PET in 5.5RC.
Yes.
OscarTalks wrote:You are correct, the original had network disabled, I believe you uploaded a re-compile yourself and the 0.8.12 was from shinobar a little later.
Yes.

Barry, you recompiled ffmpeg in March to add network support and gave it the "dash one" name (ffmpeg-20111002-1-w5c.pet). This you included in RC1 of Wary 5.3. But then someone reported that the new version didn't support x11grab, and you asked that person to try the old version (ffmpeg-20111002-w5c.pet). You never got a reply, so to be safe, you reverted to the old version for RC2, RC3, and the final Wary 5.3.

As it turned out, the old version didn't support x11grab either. Both versions should have, since you had compiled with --enable-x11grab, but because of a bug in ffmpeg's configure script (since reportedly fixed), the configure script reported no error despite not finding a needed library.

Anyway, in July shinobar recompiled ffmpeg again giving us ffmpeg-0.8.12-1, which has both x11grab and network support, and you uploaded it to the Wary repo.


used in Wary 5.2.2:
ffmpeg-20111002-w5c.pet 2011-Oct-02

used in Wary 5.3 RC1:
ffmpeg-20111002-1-w5c.pet 2012-Mar-17

used in Wary 5.3 RC2, RC3, Final:
ffmpeg-20111002-w5c.pet 2011-Oct-02

used in Wary 5.5 RC1:
ffmpeg-0.8.12-1-w5c.pet 2012-Jul-30


By the way, it's great to see a new Racy!


References - - -

Barry's Blog: ffmpeg 20111002svn recompiled, Posted on 17 Mar 2012

barryk, Bugs forum: Wary/Racy 5.3RC2 (5.2.91), Posted: Thu 29 Mar 2012, 05:38

shinobar, Bugs forum: Wary/Racy 5.3RC2 (5.2.91), Re: ffmpeg and x11grab, Posted: Tue 24 Jul 2012 01:15

Barry's Blog, Wary: ffmpeg improved, Posted on 31 Jul 2012, 8:13
Thanks very much for that clarification!

My memory can be rather hazy. It's not that I'm getting old, I have always had hazy recall. As a boy, my dad used to tell that I would forget my head if it wasn't screwed on.

I am wondering if any issues are due to the 3.8 kernel. Especially video.

I have decided that Racy 5.5RC2 will have the 3.0.66 kernel. This is a continuation of the 3.0.x used in Racy 5.3. ...um, it might have been 3.0.27.
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#30 Post by BarryK »

[quote="Ray MK"]Report Video 1.3 - Wed 27 Feb 2013 on “qky
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Racy (and Quirky) OK, Wary not so good

#31 Post by zekebaby »

I just gave Racy, Quirky, and Wary a quick frugal install on a Dell D430 laptop with a B43 wireless chipset.

Racy and Quirky both seem to work equally well with absolutely no issues so far. Solid as usual.

Wary, on the other hand, has a really annoying issue with SeaMonkey. Scrolling is not smooth and fluid like in Racy and Quirky; it seems to "stutter". Also, there's a small but perceptible lag when switching tabs when compared with Racy.

My main distro on this laptop is Puppy Precise 5.4.3, which also has no issues. I just tried Wary 5.3 and it also seems to stutter in SeaMonkey, so this may not be a new problem. I'm 99% sure Wary 5.2.2 was OK, but I don't have the ISO handy to give it a try right now.

Did something change in Wary SeaMonkey between 5.2.2 and 5.3, or could this be a system-related problem?

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#32 Post by BarryK »

OscarTalks wrote:The tg3 ethernet driver module does not work with my Broadcom NetLink 57788 (and some others, so I am told).

I downloaded the latest driver tarball from http://www.broadcom.com/support/etherne ... nk_k57.php and compiled it.

It works for me and I will attach it but I expect you will wish to compile your own.

I notice those *.ko drivers in that directory are not stripped so I didn't strip this one. Do we know if they are best left not stripped?
Kernel modules do not get stripped, not that I know of anyway.

Thanks for that update, I have replaced the tg3 module with yours in the kernel pet package.
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#33 Post by BarryK »

esmourguit wrote:Bonjour à toutes et tous,

It seems that I have a problem with remasterpup2.
Just after validated in this window, the attached message is displayed:

Cordialement ;)
That means the syntax for Xdialog is wrong.

I cannot reproduce this problem. I changed to de_DE.UTF-8, but it still worked.

After the first window, there is a "Please wait" window, then another window with a menu-list of partitions to choose a working partition.

You are crashing before that.

Do you get the "Please wait" window before the crash?

Have you run 'remasterpup2' from a terminal to see if there are any more error messages?

After it has crashed, you will find a file '/tmp/savedlg' -- please gzip that and post it here. That should tell us why the Xdialog is crashing.
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#34 Post by L18L »

/tmp/savedialog is ok
my crash is coming later and not language dependent

I have no CD/DVD and use 'virtual cd'
added some echos into function choice_cdd

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  echo m_01="$m_01"
  echo MSG="$MSG"
  echo m_14_1="$m_14_1"
  echo SELECTIONS="$SELECTIONS"
 DIALOG="Xdialog --wrap --left --title \"$m_01\" --stdout --menubox \"$MSG\n\n$m_14_1\" 0 56 4 $SELECTIONS 2> /dev/null"
 echo DIALOG="$DIALOG"
 BURNERDRV=""
 RESULT=$(eval "$DIALOG") #w018	# 22jun09
 [ $? -ne 0 ] && exit
 BURNERDRV=$RESULT
 [ "$BURNERDRV" = "" ] && exit
 BURNERDRV="`echo -n "$BURNERDRV" | cut -f 3 -d '/'`"
	echo ending choice_cdd
and started remasterpup2 in English from console:

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# LC_ALL=C remasterpup2
/usr/sbin/remasterpup2: line 288: 22023 Terminated              Xdialog --wrap --left --title "$m_01" --no-buttons --ignore-eof --infobox "$m_06" 0 0 0
WKGPART=sda3

Usage:
 losetup-FULL loop_device                             give info
 losetup-FULL -a | --all                              list all used
 losetup-FULL -d | --detach <loopdev> [<loopdev> ...] delete
 losetup-FULL -f | --find                             find unused
 losetup-FULL -c | --set-capacity <loopdev>           resize
 losetup-FULL -j | --associated <file> [-o <num>]     list all associated with <file>
 losetup-FULL [ options ] {-f|--find|loopdev} <file>  setup

Options:
 -e | --encryption <type> enable data encryption with specified <name/num>
 -h | --help              this help
 -o | --offset <num>      start at offset <num> into file
      --sizelimit <num>   loop limited to only <num> bytes of the file
 -p | --pass-fd <num>     read passphrase from file descriptor <num>
 -r | --read-only         setup read-only loop device
      --show              print device name (with -f <file>)
 -v | --verbose           verbose mode

MSG=This remaster program needs to read some files off the current live-CD.
You can also use a .iso file if it is already mounted as a virtual CD (you would need to have previously clicked on a .iso file to mount it).
starting choice_cdd
m_01=Puppy simple CD remaster
MSG=This remaster program needs to read some files off the current live-CD.
You can also use a .iso file if it is already mounted as a virtual CD (you would need to have previously clicked on a .iso file to mount it).
m_14_1=Choose the CD/DVD drive...
SELECTIONS=  /dev/loop2 
DIALOG=Xdialog --wrap --left --title "Puppy simple CD remaster" --stdout --menubox "This remaster program needs to read some files off the current live-CD.
You can also use a .iso file if it is already mounted as a virtual CD (you would need to have previously clicked on a .iso file to mount it).\n\nChoose the CD/DVD drive..." 0 56 4   /dev/loop2  2> /dev/null
# 
echo ending choice_cdd
has not been executed because of crash
hope this helps

Also see my comment from feb 26 at
http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00146 which is not a show stopper but if you can fix that would be nice.

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Racy-5.4.91

#35 Post by sszindian »

Racy-5.4.91

Yes, it was designed with more-modern computer systems in mind but...

Just had to try it on my old...

IBM T22 Thinkpad
P3
512MB RAM
20GB HDD


The new Racy-5.4.91 performs just beautiful on it!!! looks like this old notebook will be around for at least a few more years yet :)

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Re: Racy-5.4.91

#36 Post by gcmartin »

sszindian wrote:Racy-5.4.91...
Just had to try it on my old...

IBM T22 Thinkpad
P3
512MB RAM
20GB HDD


The new Racy-5.4.91 performs just beautiful on it!!! looks like this old notebook will be around for at least a few more years yet :)

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Hello everyone.
Edited 2013/03/01: This post was generated without knowing that the RACY distro has changed from itsoriginal PAE offering to a non-PAE distro. I missed that announcement from Barry and had assumed his traditional meaning where WARY being a non-PAE and RACY was the PAE version of the same products within the 2 distros.

Today, BOTH Wary and Racy are non-PAE versions

The following information below ONLY applies to the old RACY versions of 5.4.x back to RACY's original release.
even though there remains confusion with some of the Puppy (and Linux too) community, RACY is design in such a way that it is expected to run on 99% of the world computers which has from 384MB RAM (this is from ONLY my own past testing and is NOT BARRY's or anyone else's RAM recommendation) all the way to as much RAM you could possible add to your computer. There are some computers in the world that do not have the 32bit hardware feature to use the RACY (or any PAE aware distro). This mean that for as long as you run your 32bit PC no matter how much ran you have or install while you run PAE Pups, it will recognized and make effective use of all RAM to suit your system needs.

WARY and non-PAE PUPs will run equally as well, but, it cannot reach more than 3.5GB of RAM for your needs.. PAE has no such limitation. It will use all that it finds for all of your system uses.

PAE has been a feature of 32bit PCs since 1995..

This is merely presented for understanding as many may not necessarily be aware and thus confusion could result because the 2 look so much alike at the desktop level. But, under the hood there's "rrr...." for your benefit (assuming your PC is one of most of all desktop/laptops made.). IFF not, just understand that Puppyland has addressed NON-PAE as well. WARY is non-PAE and RACY is PAE, hence, its name (which probably resulted from findings that members in Puppyland discovered when surfacing this missing component)

Here to help
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#37 Post by don570 »

I tested Racy and found that it works with Abispell dictionaries
I tested the French (see image)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=604453

It's simple to install the languages that you use as pet packages...

Image

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Re: Racy-5.4.91

#38 Post by James C »

gcmartin wrote:
sszindian wrote:Racy-5.4.91...
Just had to try it on my old...

IBM T22 Thinkpad
P3
512MB RAM
20GB HDD


The new Racy-5.4.91 performs just beautiful on it!!! looks like this old notebook will be around for at least a few more years yet :)

>>>---Indian------>
Hello everyone. even though there remains confusion with some of the Puppy (and Linux too) community, RACY is design in such a way that it is expected to run on 99% of the world computers which has from 384MB RAM (this is from ONLY my own past testing and is NOT BARRY's or anyone else's RAM recommendation) all the way to as much RAM you could possible add to your computer. There are some computers in the world that do not have the 32bit hardware feature to use the RACY (or any PAE aware distro). This mean that for as long as you run your 32bit PC no matter how much ran you have or install while you run PAE Pups, it will recognized and make effective use of all RAM to suit your system needs.

WARY and non-PAE PUPs will run equally as well, but, it cannot reach more than 3.5GB of RAM for your needs.. PAE has no such limitation. It will use all that it finds for all of your system uses.

PAE has been a feature of 32bit PCs since 1995..

This is merely presented for understanding as many may not necessarily be aware and thus confusion could result because the 2 look so much alike at the desktop level. But, under the hood there's "rrr...." for your benefit (assuming your PC is one of most of all desktop/laptops made.). IFF not, just understand that Puppyland has addressed NON-PAE as well. WARY is non-PAE and RACY is PAE, hence, its name (which probably resulted from findings that members in Puppyland discovered when surfacing this missing component)

Here to help
Since Racy 5.4.9.1 is non-pae the meaning of your post is........?
Racy 5.5RC has the 3.8.0 Linux kernel, configured without PAE support (so only accesses first 4MB of RAM), and for a i586 CPU. It also has 'f2fs' (Flash Friendly File System) support, which is the main reason I was keen to use the 3.8 kernel.
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#39 Post by don570 »

Racy booted into vesa

I put the following section into /etc/X11/xorg.conf
(I copied these lines from another Puppy)

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Section "Device"
Identifier  "Card0"
	Driver      "nouveau" #card0driver
	VendorName  "nVidia Corporation"
	BoardName   "NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]"
	BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection
I restarted Xwindows and the computer now used the 'nouveau' driver.

I could have also used the 'xorgwizard' as well.

But I found that I couldn't use the 'nv' driver. Apparently it
won't be supported by this advanced kernel???

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#40 Post by BarryK »

don570 wrote:Racy booted into vesa

I put the following section into /etc/X11/xorg.conf
(I copied these lines from another Puppy)

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Section "Device"
Identifier  "Card0"
	Driver      "nouveau" #card0driver
	VendorName  "nVidia Corporation"
	BoardName   "NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]"
	BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection
I restarted Xwindows and the computer now used the 'nouveau' driver.

I could have also used the 'xorgwizard' as well.

But I found that I couldn't use the 'nv' driver. Apparently it
won't be supported by this advanced kernel???

_______________________________________
'nv' is supported, but is disabled by default, unless you use the xorgwizard.

I do need to take a fresh look at this, but unfortunately it is going to take a lot of messing around, and I will have to setup my PCs, that are currently stored in a garage.

Will have to do that as a project after Racy/Wary 5.5 is released.
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