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bin_5

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PostPosted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 19:05    Post subject:  Unintentional Deletion
Subject description: Delteted pfile, need to reinstall		  
I am a Precise Puppy newbie. While attempting to place an icon linking to pfind on the desktop, I inadvertently placed a pfind icon from /usr/share instead of from usr/share/applications. Of course, this icon doesn't open pfind, so I deleted it. The upshot of this is that now I cannot access or even find pfind at all. It doesn't even show in Menu/Filesystem. I used Puppy Package Manager to download a fresh copy of pfind, but it says it is already installed. How to I recover this application? Thanks in advance.
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Semme

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PostPosted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 19:25    Post subject:  
Hi Bin- Welcome. Is there a pfind in /usr/local/bin?

*IF* this is a frugal install- boot: puppy pfix=ram and replace the files and folders in question..
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PostPosted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 20:33    Post subject:  
Try looking in /initrd/pup_rw/ for a whiteout file with 'pfind' at the end of the name (it should have at least one ".wh" before the name, like ".wh.pfind". Note that the period before the name means it'll be a hidden file, so make sure you have hidden files displayed.) Try moving the .wh file to a different (temp) directory, and see if the deleted pfind returns.
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PostPosted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 20:46    Post subject:  
Ah, Makoto.. We've heard word of this in a recent post, now haven't we?
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PostPosted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 20:56    Post subject:  
Hm? I've known to look for the whiteout files for some time... the only thing is, I've always wished there was an easier way to work with them, if you want to undelete something. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 22:57    Post subject:  
Makoto wrote:
Try looking in /initrd/pup_rw/ for a whiteout file with 'pfind' at the end of the name (it should have at least one ".wh" before the name, like ".wh.pfind". Note that the period before the name means it'll be a hidden file, so make sure you have hidden files displayed.) Try moving the .wh file to a different (temp) directory, and see if the deleted pfind returns.


I found /initrd/pup_rw/ but there is not a 'pfind' file with 'wh' before it.
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PostPosted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 23:01    Post subject:  
Semme wrote:
Hi Bin- Welcome. Is there a pfind in /usr/local/bin?

*IF* this is a frugal install- boot: puppy pfix=ram and replace the files and folders in question..


Not sure if my install if full or frugal. How do I check for that? I boot Puppy off a USB drive.
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bin_5

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PostPosted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 23:22    Post subject:  
Semme wrote:
Hi Bin- Welcome. Is there a pfind in /usr/local/bin?

*IF* this is a frugal install- boot: puppy pfix=ram and replace the files and folders in question..



There is not a 'pfind' in /usr/local/bin
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PostPosted: Sun 03 Mar 2013, 08:52    Post subject:  
Open the drive on your desktop.. is it similar to mine? This is *which* Pup? Was it burned as a boot cd prior to install?
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PostPosted: Sun 03 Mar 2013, 12:15    Post subject:  
Quote:
I used Puppy Package Manager to download a fresh copy of pfind, but it says it is already installed

Not sure about the PPM since it has developed rapidly , but it might be , that there is some pfind entry in /root/.packages/* that might make the PPM saying so nowerdays .
Code:
grep -i pfind /root/.packages/*

in the terminal should show some entries.
Normally clicking on a pfind.pet should run the
Code:
petget /path/to/pfind.pet

script , that IfIRememberCorrectly always had installed things as it overwrites.

If you have an installation type that uses pup_ro1 instead of pup_rw as save-file mountpoint , then you might look for these .wh. files there .

*

To exactly determine your Puppy Version :
Code:
source /etc/DISTRO_SPECS
echo $DISTRO_NAME $DISTRO_VERSION

in console.
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bin_5

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PostPosted: Tue 05 Mar 2013, 22:15    Post subject:  
Semme wrote:
Open the drive on your desktop.. is it similar to mine? This is *which* Pup? Was it burned as a boot cd prior to install?


Puppy Precise 5.4.3

My drive looks similar, only have 11 items.

I solved problem by reinstalling to the USB drive.
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bin_5

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PostPosted: Tue 05 Mar 2013, 22:20    Post subject:  
Karl Godt wrote:
Quote:
I used Puppy Package Manager to download a fresh copy of pfind, but it says it is already installed

Not sure about the PPM since it has developed rapidly , but it might be , that there is some pfind entry in /root/.packages/* that might make the PPM saying so nowerdays .
Code:
grep -i pfind /root/.packages/*

in the terminal should show some entries.
Normally clicking on a pfind.pet should run the
Code:
petget /path/to/pfind.pet

script , that IfIRememberCorrectly always had installed things as it overwrites.

If you have an installation type that uses pup_ro1 instead of pup_rw as save-file mountpoint , then you might look for these .wh. files there .

*

To exactly determine your Puppy Version :
Code:
source /etc/DISTRO_SPECS
echo $DISTRO_NAME $DISTRO_VERSION

in console.


Thanks Karl, and everyone else, for your input. What I learn here is valuable. I ended up just reinstalling to the USB drive.

By the way, which screen capture utility is recommended for Puppy? I tinkered a bit with the utilities that came with the distro, but was not successful in getting a capture..

Thanks again all for your responses
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PostPosted: Wed 06 Mar 2013, 00:56    Post subject:  
Screen capture? Find the *bomb* here. Jpg format's a good choice..
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