Wary and Racy 5.5, released March 3, 2013

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#21 Post by session »

Wary is excellent as always, the most usable ootb linux distro for my hardware.

I'd like future versions of Wary to have this version of glipper-lite.
It's about the same size, UI is better, but more importantly it's more likely to survive tray restarts.
Or if not on i586 you can try the latest Seamonkey which, despite its ever-increasing size, has improved tremendously with overall responsiveness since version 2.6. It doesn't need newer glibc, just dbus (or nobus)
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racy tray battery ok wary no

#22 Post by broomdodger »

racy tray battery ok wary no

ASUS 701 Eee PC, 900 MHz, 4 GB SSD, 512 MB RAM

This was just given to me after sitting in a garage for a few years. Battery charges fully, giving good runtime.

racy5.5 manual frugal
wary5.5 manual frugal

racy tray shows the battery charging, as well as hardinfo.
racy tray follows the charge light on the ASUS.

wary tray on the other hand, shows no charge, and hardinfo agrees, even though the ASUS charge light shows charging.

So... racy monitors battery ok, but wary battery monitor does not work.

Both racy and wary play ted.com videos.
Compiled Sylpheed 340beta2 and vim 7.3.843, work great.
Seamonkey browses well.

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#23 Post by musher0 »

Hello, all.

Just a note:

I didn't catch the release candidate thread before it was closed, so I'm putting my user's note here.

If you install pdfedit, it will probably need a libaudio library, which is absent in wary 5.4.90. Why an audio library in a text processing program I do not know, but pdfedit refuses to launch without it.

I did a micro-version update from 5.4.90 to 5.5 so it's impossible to re-check now in my 5.5, but nevertheless, if you install pdfedit in wary 5.5 and it does not work, try to think of this solution.


Best regards.

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#24 Post by bugman-2.0 »

Everything looked nice but for whatever reason it was unable to locate a network [posting from older puppy]. Will try again later.

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#25 Post by Ray MK »

Racy Puppy version 5.5, released Mar 2013

Linux puppypc15834 3.0.66 #1 SMP Wed Feb 27 21:59:56 GMT-8 2013 i686 GNU/Linux

# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 366820 287404 79416 0 15232
-/+ buffers: 272172 94648
Swap: 658660 23296 635364

# top
Mem: 287780K used, 79040K free, 0K shrd, 15232K buff, 231636K cached
CPU: 2% usr 2% sys 0% nic 94% idle 0% io 0% irq 0% sirq
Load average: 0.52 0.82 0.67 1/58 25098

Manual frugal to ext3 and booting with grub4dos.
Using 10yr old Acer laptop.
Seamonkey offered to update when selecting HELP icon on desktop - nice - all smoothly done.
Top indicates low resources and hardinfo shows temp at 53c (both similar to Wary) nice.

Generally all the basics seem to be working OOTB. Luvly Puppy.
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#26 Post by BarryK »

session wrote:Wary is excellent as always, the most usable ootb linux distro for my hardware.

I'd like future versions of Wary to have this version of glipper-lite.
It's about the same size, UI is better, but more importantly it's more likely to survive tray restarts.
Or if not on i586 you can try the latest Seamonkey which, despite its ever-increasing size, has improved tremendously with overall responsiveness since version 2.6. It doesn't need newer glibc, just dbus (or nobus)
SeaMonkey has the same problem as Firefox. Cannot compile latest versions in Wary.
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#27 Post by session »

BarryK wrote:SeaMonkey has the same problem as Firefox. Cannot compile latest versions in Wary.
I'm not compiling it, just running it. An official build of Seamonkey 2.17b1 (which I believe parallels Firefox 20) runs perfectly fine on stock Wary.
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#28 Post by Volhout »

Racy 5.5 frugal install on USB stick.

Dell Lattitude 6470: Racy will not shut down normal way. It will clear screen, but wallpaper remains. And stay in this phase. It will not show the black screen showing "saving to ...".

ASUS EeePC1001HA: works fine WIFI, screen, audio, battery etc,, Installed some eye candy, then played with function keys on EeePC (volume up/down, brightness up-down) all fine, until I tried WIFI on-off (FN+F2). WIFI turned off. But this key cannot enable WIFI anymore. I enabled WIFI again via SNS. But when I shut Puppy down, no save file update happened. I lost all my eye candy....
Not sure what happened, might have been an accident, but FN+F2 caused problems in many puppies. as long as you don't use it Racy works fine.

Only thing I miss in Racy is the option to have only 5 icons on the desktop. (Slacko has it). But I have to congratulate with the size. This series of puppies is in the 120Mbyte range. Others (Precise/Slacko) are 150mbytes+.

Naming: what is mainstream puppy now ? I know Wary 5.5 is for older stuff, but Racy 5.5 / Slacko 5.5 / Precise 5.5 ... all offer more or less the same. Which one will be mainstream and maintained ?

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#29 Post by James C »

session wrote: An official build of Seamonkey 2.17b1 (which I believe parallels Firefox 20) runs perfectly fine on stock Wary.
I had to install dbus-glib (I keep the pet handy) but SeaMonkey 2.17b1 is running fine here as well.The official builds are quite a bit larger than Barry K's compiles though.
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#30 Post by James C »

FWIW, Opera 12.14 works fine too.

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#31 Post by session »

OK, I see now what was meant, Watchdog was trying to run a Precise (or other puppy) build. So, yeah, vanilla builds are your answer.

In any case, I still recommend Seamonkey over Firefox because vanilla Firefox is noticeably slower on my modest machine...
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#32 Post by watchdog »

session wrote:OK, I see now what was meant, Watchdog was trying to run a Precise (or other puppy) build. So, yeah, vanilla builds are your answer.

In any case, I still recommend Seamonkey over Firefox because vanilla Firefox is noticeably slower on my modest machine...
I have now two frugals of wary 5.5: one with glibc upgrade and firefox 19.0 from which I'm writing. I use to install mozilla browsers from:

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla ... /releases/

and

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla ... /releases/

My frugal with firefox works fine on my new hardware, a laptop with celeron and 2 Gb RAM. My old desktop is gone. From this frugal with glibc upgrade, if you install the original glibc from repository by PPM, you can obtain the same of the original wary where I run seamonkey 2.16. It works fine, too.

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#33 Post by rcrsn51 »

Grub Legacy Bootloader Config is broken in Wary 5.5. The problem is with Xdialog and GTK, specifically the menubox widget. It is now throwing an error message into 2>/tmp/xxx. So grubconfig cannot parse the results.

This is patchable. However, fans of Legacy GRUB may prefer to use the light-weight replacement here. It will appear in the System menu as Legacy GRUB Config 2013.

FYI, I have searched for other apps that may be affected by this bug. The only one I could find is the podcast grabber.
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#34 Post by esmourguit »

Bonjour à toutes et tous,

I noticed this problem with Puppy Podcast Grabber.
What to do to change this erratic behavior?
Thank you.

Cordialement ;)
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#35 Post by rcrsn51 »

esmourguit wrote:I noticed this problem with Puppy Podcast Grabber. What to do to change this erratic behavior?
You need to replace every instance of "2>&1" with "2>&1 | tail -n1".

This should do it:

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sed -i  's/2>\&1/2>\&1|tail -n1/g' /usr/local/bin/ppg-gui.sh

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#36 Post by esmourguit »

Bonjour à toutes et tous,

@ rcrsn51,
A thousand thank you Bill, it works perfectly.

Cordialement ;)
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#37 Post by broomdodger »

James C wrote:FWIW, Opera 12.14 works fine too.
How do you install Operal 12.14?
Where do you get it?

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#38 Post by broomdodger »

racy 5.5
wary 5.5

Both work well on an old 2001 Asus 701 Eee PC, 4 GB SSD, 512 MB RAM.

The original Linux would not boot. The SSD had 4 partitions. I booted from an external CD, GParted to one partition ext2, manual frugal install, grub4dos, now happy as a clam (shell).

Wireless is better than some larger laptops.
2.5 hours battery life, it was 'stored' for 2+ years!

Compiled Sylpheed 3.4.0beta2 works great.
Compiled vim 7.3.843 also works great.

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#39 Post by Sage »

Where do you get it?
Did you try http://www.opera.com ?
Deb(other) usually works, except Slacko, of course, but mick usually attends to all our needs on that score, notwithstanding an interim issue with Norway.

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#40 Post by broomdodger »

Sage wrote:
Where do you get it?
Did you try http://www.opera.com ?
Deb(other) usually works, except Slacko, of course, but mick usually attends to all our needs on that score, notwithstanding an interim issue with Norway.
Yes, but this is something I have yet to learn, which distribution, which package model...

I was hoping for some helpful guidance.

So... Other (DEB) and Debian package?

Well... I will try that, thank you.

Bill

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