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playdayz


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PostPosted: Wed 06 Mar 2013, 18:32    Post subject:  

Puppy is famous for running on old kit. Here it is running on some new kit, 3rd gen intel i3 with hd 4000 graphics. I had to buy it to portabilize my work environment. I have learned some stuff that might be useful to some people: Windows 8 can be made to look and work just like W7 (by using Classic shell or Start8); Ubuntu can run Gnome Classic--not Mate but the Gnome 3 programs with a nice fast gui like Gnome 2; Kubuntu/KDE can run with Openbox as well as with Plasma--with Openbox it is snappier.

Congratulations on Slacko 5.5 Micko and thanks.

<Add: Another thing I learned is that there is now a Netflix app for ubuntu (at least. It includes wine, silverlight, and mono so it is 250MB at least--but it did work.
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Mar 2013, 04:15    Post subject:  

Welcome back young man. Your contributions have always been amazing. ( But nothing will persuade me to use WindozeAnythingAnywhere!).
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Mar 2013, 05:04    Post subject:  

I tested it yesterday and it seems to work well.
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PostPosted: Fri 08 Mar 2013, 15:30    Post subject: New Feature in v5.5 - "Update Manager ..."  

Slacko has a new feature which should help us in keeping our systems current.

I ask:
  • How often and when should this tool be use?
Today, 2 events occurred when clicking on it
  1. First, a messagebox appearred indicating the system is up to date
  2. While a follow-on Window appeared (shown below) that offers update as of today's date
Curious for good system management recommendation.

This distro is clean, responsive and stable, thus far.

Thanks in advance for an answer to my question.
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PostPosted: Fri 08 Mar 2013, 17:47    Post subject:  

The message does not imply that "the system is up to date" but the list is up to date. You will notice "This list was last updated on (date)".

Perhaps the splash could be more clear. I'll note that for a future release.

If the program version listed is the same as the one installed it does not get reinstalled. In fact only seamonkey and firefox show always as they may not even be installed (depending on distro maintainer's preference of default browser). The list will update automatically at first run of the program if the database is older than 2 days. Why 2 days? I think it's reasonable. If it were to update every time the prog started, the server logs would soon fill up, so I built in some consideration for upstream.

There is no recommendation on when to update. The choice is yours. Update every 5 minutes if you want or never. Be aware all updates packages downloaded are saved to /tmp and will disappear on reboot. All updates will take up savefile space. It is also recommended in a splash screen to uninstall seamonkey or firefox before updating. This mechanism isn't perfect or else it would be done automatically. This is another future consideration.

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Mar 2013, 20:47    Post subject: puppy  

Congratulations mic!!!

Looks like Slacko-5.5 had a big hand in bringing Puppy up to the #2 SPOT today in Distrowatch downloads.

Something to be surely proud of!

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Mar 2013, 21:02    Post subject:  

And Macpup is at number 65....7 days.

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Mar 2013, 21:10    Post subject:  

Quirky is number 10 as well.....
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PostPosted: Sun 10 Mar 2013, 06:29    Post subject:  

Ladislav may have the 'PCLinux' problem with that Mageia entry. According to a straw poll, it really isn't that popular, or of interest, or whatever. Indeed, some of my contacts hadn't heard of it nor realised the Mandrake/Mandriva & forks fiasco.
Mint, Puppy, Debian, Fedora, SuSE seem entirely credible.
Notwithstanding the accepted limitations of this method of data analysis.
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dennis-slacko531


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PostPosted: Sun 10 Mar 2013, 23:12    Post subject: Question about Firefox  

Everything about 5.5 is fine, except what's going on with Firefox freezing my system right from the gate? I mean it never gets started, so it's not an "update thing." Using the PAE version, although my Intel E6750 2.66/2G is possibly not going to benefit... I don't see the point in using non-pae, my PC is only 5 1/2 years old. -- So, for testing, I installed it twice with two separate media's (DVD first, then CD because sometimes I think my burner might discriminate against DVD's). Rolling Eyes

Bottom line, I'm back in Precise 5.5 writing this. I'd like to give Slacko another try, should I just download a different browser. I kind of like Firefox, but not if it freezes entire system (things freeze immediately upon clicking it from Menu).

EDIT: md5sum was perfect. I'll try the Phat for now, thnks

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PostPosted: Mon 11 Mar 2013, 00:13    Post subject:  

Odd problem dennis-slacko531

Certainly could be a kernel conflict, I gather you tested the checksum. Maybe try turning stuff off in the kernel like acpi. Maybe the video driver is conflicting, try modest=0 (intel is it?)

I just released PHATSlacko (in derivatives) has k3.8.2 if you want to live on the bleeding edge.

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PostPosted: Mon 11 Mar 2013, 06:07    Post subject:  

video-info-glx 1.5.1 Mon 11 Mar 2013 on Slacko Puppy 5.5 Linux 3.4.17-PAE i686
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 1Cool
oem: Intel(R)Ironlake Mobile Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(R)Ironlake Mobile Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0

X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.12.3
dimensions: 1366x1024 pixels (361x270 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ironlake Mobile x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4

Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 370 @ 2.40GHz
Core 0: @933 1: @933 2: @933 3: @933 MHz

# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 1790108 442380 1347728 0 25964
-/+ buffers: 416416 1373692
Swap: 0 0 0

# top
Mem: 443800K used, 1346308K free, 0K shrd, 26012K buff, 342076K cached
CPU: 1% usr 2% sys 0% nic 96% idle 0% io 0% irq 0% sirq
Load average: 0.05 0.17 0.29 3/84 14882

# uname -a
Linux puppypc11171 3.4.17-PAE #1 SMP Fri Nov 2 19:12:33 EST 2012 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 370 @ 2.40GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
#

Uptime = 2 days - Everything working OOTB - wifi, suspend / resume, browser, WP etc. Luvly Puppy. Many thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon 11 Mar 2013, 18:17    Post subject: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]
Subject description: How do i fix this?
 

01micko wrote:
Slacko 5.5 final

Xorg is a temperemental beast, try the fixed Xrandrshell from xorgwizard gui or quicksetup to
change resolution.
NV-3(n) (fx-5200) nvidia cards fail to display correctly with nouveau, it' s a bug with screen drawing..USE:
Code:
nouveau.noaccel=1

on the kernel line (menu.lst, syslinux.conf, extlinux.cfg) or at puppy pfix=ram.



Have fun!


I'm brand new to puppy and linux, if someone could give me a quicky walkthru of exactly what/where i have to type/click to edit the code to fix my screen rendering, that would be great. ty

Video-Info 1.5.1 - Mon 11 Mar 2013 on Slacko Puppy 5.5 - Linux 3.2.33-4g i686

Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1)

X Server: Xorg Driver used: nouveau
X.Org version: 1.12.3
dimensions: 1152x864 pixels (338x270 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

video-info-glx 1.5.1 Mon 11 Mar 2013 on Slacko Puppy 5.5 Linux 3.2.33-4g i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1)

X Server: Xorg Driver: nouveau
X.Org version: 1.12.3
dimensions: 1152x864 pixels (338x270 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: nouveau
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on NV34
OpenGL version string: 1.5 Mesa 8.0.4

Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz
Core 0: @2393 MHz
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PostPosted: Mon 11 Mar 2013, 19:08    Post subject:  

Hello IJTBU and welcome.

If you have installed puppy (that is either a full or frugal to disk) then the easiest way is to run the following in a console or terminal:
Code:
echo "options nouveau noaccel=1" > /etc/modprobe.d/nouveau.conf

Then reboot.

If you want to start fresh.. when you first boot the live cd append this to where you see the "boot" prompt (be quick, you get 5 seconds).
Code:
puppy pfix=ram nouveau.noaccel=1


This gives you an unaccelerated desktop. However, if you need acceleration run the Video Upgrade Wizard (Menu > Setup > ) and it should automatically download and install the proprietary nvida driver for your card.

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anikin

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PostPosted: Wed 13 Mar 2013, 11:58    Post subject:  

Hi Micko,

Some time back many moons ago, you made a GUI/script, that I'm currently using.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=349904#349904
A lot has changed since and part of it is not needed anymore. Could you please, revisit your work to see if it's possible to remove power/cpu related stuff and make it purely a fan control script? Like I imagine it in the attached pic.

Thank you in advance
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