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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013, 21:29    Post subject:  
Going through my archives I was reminded that I built a Slack Puppy 011 in March 2009...... must have been soon after the subject of this thread was done.Some of those early Woof builds were an adventure. Smile Never bothered to upload it either.

Anyway, Arch Puppy 007 is old but fairly solid.....use it how you see fit. And all semi-constructive comments are welcome.
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ally


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PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013, 21:38    Post subject:  
upload it if you can james

for posterity.......

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stifiling

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Mar 2013, 07:20    Post subject:  
*A little rude. Decided to delete.*
Last edited by stifiling on Sat 16 Mar 2013, 08:16; edited 1 time in total
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01micko


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PostPosted: Sat 16 Mar 2013, 07:44    Post subject:  
stifiling wrote:
My question is civilised and my question is directed to ONE person. the only person that knows the answer and that is 01micko. So i'm hoping a pound full of dogs don't come barking, when there's only ONE that has the answer. and that's the one i'm asking....01micko.

Ok, I just want to know...since your the one that had the Arch Puppy 007 iso for all this time, why didn't you give it to puppyluvr in the The Journey to ArchPup thread? He asked for it a 'couple' of times, and also said:
Fair question. I moved house about a year ago, downsized. I threw out a lot of old isos and did think that apup-007 was amongst them. I had a big cleanup in my shed this week, preparing for study, my shed doubles as my office. I went through a bunch of old isos (edit: correction, read "cd's") and stumbled upon apup-007. I also found one called woof-002. This is the first Intrepid iso built by Barry. The files on my HDD were long gone. At the time I only had 160GB so was constantly shuffling files to free up space. All the other machines I had were old clunkers with small old drives.

stifiling wrote:
puppyluvr wrote:
I tried to ArchPup several years ago, and made an ISO I could prob fix today, but way out of date. And I dont know where, amongst my many drives, it is..


You replied in that thread 3 times, but never chose to mention, "Hey, I have a working copy right here."

See previous answer, similar situation, possibly even the same woof version.

stifiling wrote:
In this thread, mavrothal became upset about a disagreement with simargl and decided he no longer was interested in participating in ArchPup at this post. You left this post about an hr and a half later. Which 'clearly' says you were 'watching' the ArchPup threads. but this was your 'first' post (something negative) in 'any' ArchPup thread.

You also said this today in this thread:

01micko wrote:
You can see evidence of my involvement with early Arch Puppy development in the post reference by here (scroll down the arch forum post link). It was problems like very large packages that pushed me to spup so I discontinued my Arch experiment.


All of this says, you are interested and knowledgable in Arch Puppy development. But chose not to help 'anyone' in succeeding at making it work.

I had seen Archpup development (simargl's) but did not particularly take an interest because I was busy with Slacko development. When I took a minor interest in puppyluvr's plight I wasn't so busy, but puppyluvr was a bit busy with other things so posting to that thread was sporadic.

At that time (4 years ago), I wasn't really a developer either. I was beginning. As stated, Arch packages were a bit larger and I was going for small. A 10 MB difference in ~100MB iso (spup as is to apup) was quite substantial. I really didn't begin developing puplets until late 2010. Spup-100 was my first release, based on slackware-13.1 packages. I have been concentrating on slackware ever since and offering mostly woof based help to anyone who asked for it.

stifiling wrote:
Were you wishing bad luck amongst Arch/Puppy....because you were unable to get it working?
Absolutely not! That would be petty!

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stifiling

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Mar 2013, 08:09    Post subject:  
Alright fair answer. And thanks for answering. Although it may have 'appeared' to be otherwise...it's nothing but respect dude. So i wouldn't want you to think anything different.

Explosions like this happens sometimes..but you just duke it out....and keep it moving. No love lost.
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Mar 2013, 08:11    Post subject:  
Cool stifiling Cool
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raffy

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Mar 2013, 08:56    Post subject: story  
Hmm, why is stifiling asking all the questions, can't we hear him/her tell his/her story, too?

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mavrothal


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PostPosted: Tue 19 Mar 2013, 12:16    Post subject:  
Wow, how did I miss that post? Shocked Very Happy

I was involved with archpup right from the beginning but I tried to stay away from "Archpup wars" all this time, even when cheep shots were taken at me, because I thought that any kind of "contribution" would further fuel this unnecessary mess.
Hopefully now is cool enough so I can write few words (and re-ignite it Twisted Evil )

First of all I'm sorry that Mick got into this. I only saw his "famous" post after the ball had started rolling and too late to do anything about it. But Mick is a big boy. Very Happy
I was also sorry to see simargl{8}'s reaction and his totally unfounded attack to Mick and everybody else with an "us vs them" mentality.
It could be contributed to cultural differences, language problems, unfulfilled expectations (about Archpup's acceptance) or anything else, but very hard to justify just the same.

Regarding my contribution in "igniting" this, I just left Archpup for very clear reasons
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if you keep ignoring functionality and keep insulting puppy users, archpup may end up your personal distro.
Good luck.
and certainly unhappy of the way things were going.
At that point I also deleted my modest code contributions (the Archpup-specific bit) because it was clear to me that were not in Archpup's road map, and saw no reason to keep trying.

From the beginning I believed
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that Archpup has no resemblance to puppy outside the initrd and a couple of scripts

I admit I was trying to get it more puppy-like with little success, no matter how explicit I tried to be.
In spite os some private calls to take over/fork the project, I had no wish to do that, so in a true OSS style Rolling Eyes, I just moved on.

Thankfully, it would appear that everybody else is doing the same at last. Smile
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