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ICPUG

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PostPosted: Mon 14 Jan 2013, 09:28    Post_subject:  

Not so long ago I finally updated the Lin'N'WinNewB project notes with the method for Windows 7 as used in the Windows Installer.

I recently had some feedback which suggested a failure of Lin'N'Win when trying to install to a Windows 7 PC which has a boot option back to legacy Windows XP.

The Windows Installer creates a real-mode boot option in the bcd of Windows 7 and I am wondering if this clashes with the boot option that Windows creates for Windows XP (even though it is called Windows Legacy OS, in this case).

I cannot really test my thoughts as I do not have Windows XP on my Windows 7 machine.

I'm posting this to find out if somebody has successfully run the Windows Installer on a dual booting Windows 7 / Windows XP machine.

If my thoughts on the clash of boot loaders is correct then my thoughts to a solution are to use the windows XP bootloader as normal to boot Puppy. On bootup of the triple booting machine one would first choose Windows XP and then Linux from the Windows XP bootloader menu.

Any comments?
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noryb009

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PostPosted: Mon 14 Jan 2013, 19:23    Post_subject:  

ICPUG: In your instructions, it assumes that Windows 7 is on the C drive. This might not be true if Windows XP is also installed. That's really the only reason I can think of.
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ICPUG

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Jan 2013, 08:59    Post_subject:  

Thanks noryb009. I shall progress that thought with my contact. Unfortunately, I was not given a description of what actually happened when it failed. The contact solved the problem by reinstalling Windows 7 and reapplying Lin'N'Win! I may have lost the ability to find out what happened.

If there is a problem then I presume the Windows Installer might be problematic with this configuration also so it would be nice to hear that a Windows Installer user has successfully triple booted with Windows 7 - Windows XP.
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noryb009

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Mar 2013, 19:25    Post_subject:  

(Slacko) Puppy Linux 550 has been uploaded, see the link in the first post.
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simargl

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Mar 2013, 19:29    Post_subject:  

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noryb009

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Mar 2013, 20:18    Post_subject:  

Unetbootin installs a distro to a USB. Puppy Linux Windows Installer installs it to your hard drive.

Unetbootin is better if you are traveling and want to use your own distro on another computer, and this is better if you want it to be installed to your own computer.
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noryb009

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PostPosted: Sun 10 Mar 2013, 15:52    Post_subject:  

Precise Puppy Linux 550 has been uploaded, see the link in the first post.
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mtiqbal

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PostPosted: Mon 18 Mar 2013, 19:06    Post_subject: Very Slow boot  

I installed slacko 5.5 PAE using the most recent exe installer on my windows 7 computer. It works fine and fast till I save my setup before I reboot. If I save my setup in an ext4 520MB file then next boot takes 5 minutes. Therefore, there is some thing wrong with the installer. It works fine if I go back to windows and delete my saved file. I tried on two computers and I have same issue. There was no such issue with slacko 5.4 PAE exe installer.

How can I fix the slow boot and performance issue? Thanks
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noryb009

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PostPosted: Mon 18 Mar 2013, 19:09    Post_subject:  

mtiqbal: Does the startup hang at a certain step?

Also, have you tried to reboot again (3rd, or even 4th time)? I know that puppy does some extra stuff the first time you use the save file.
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mtiqbal

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PostPosted: Mon 18 Mar 2013, 21:23    Post_subject:  

Boot is always successful. On a computer with a ssd it take more than 2 minutes to boot. On other computer boot takes 4-5 minuter and there is a lot of hd activity that should not be there since sfs file is in ram. No change after a number of boots. If I delete my 4fs file then boot takes less than 30s.
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noryb009

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PostPosted: Mon 18 Mar 2013, 21:25    Post_subject:  

Is there one part of the boot process that the computer stays on for a while (longer then usual)? What is on the screen at that time?
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mtiqbal

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Mar 2013, 12:07    Post_subject:  

At login [...]:root [tty1] screen there is about a minute delay.

At starting X .... screen delay is about 2 minutes.

During the delays HD is busy (led is on). This should not happen.
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noryb009

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Mar 2013, 15:14    Post_subject:  

Those two parts happen after the part that the windows installer controls, so it's unlikely that the windows installer is causing the slowdown. The best thing to do is probably post the problem in the users forum.

I'm guessing that the problem is with X starting up. When you boot up, go to"Start Puppy Linux", press escape, (I think you have to select "OK" or something here), highlight Puppy 550 PAE, press e, change "pfix=fsck" to "pfix=fsck,nox". The startup will leave you at a terminal. If you get to this point quickly, and the hard drive light is not on, then the problem is X starting up. At this stage, type "xwin", followed by an enter. If X takes a long time to start, the problem is definitely X starting up.
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mtiqbal

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Mar 2013, 20:45    Post_subject:  

No. Problem is not with X start up since it works fine without 4fs file. Problem is with the installer and login. I have reinstalled 5.4 PAE Opera on one of my computer and it has no such issue. It works fine and fast with or without 4fs file.
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noryb009

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Mar 2013, 21:31    Post_subject:  

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No. Problem is not with X start up since it works fine without 4fs file. Problem is with the installer and login.

The problem is X starting up the second time, after the save file has been created.

The simplest solution is to just stay at 5.4 PAE Opera, or to install 5.5 another way. However, if you still want to use the windows installer, can you try what I posted in my last post?

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