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How to Make a Bootable Flash Drive using ISObooter
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gcmartin

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Feb 2013, 21:40    Post subject: An Alternative Guide to assist ISObooter setup  

This Guide may be helpful to some in understanding the ISObooter service.

All of the work for ISObooter and the instructions you see there results from the work of @Rcrsn51. But, the guide is aimed to assist understanding.

Post any comments there.

Here to help

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Mike7

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Feb 2013, 22:06    Post subject:  

Okay, I get it now: ISObooter goes onto the pendrive where the new distro goes.

I am a little thick sometimes. I appreciate your patience.

Cheers!

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Mike7

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Feb 2013, 22:10    Post subject:  

Thanks for the Guide, GCMartin. Very helpful for slow learners like me {grin}.

Mike
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nooby

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Feb 2013, 16:05    Post subject:  

Rcrsn51 did you notice that Scooby had added
a new most easy version to the easy2boot thread?

Alternative 0 link http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=83583

your version works very good. I really love it but
it does fail on a few isos. Could be how them set it up
so nothing wrong with your isobooter.

I should have taken a note but I am bad at such .Too impulsive
and I hate to fail at things so I delete and forget what it was.

I hink one of them where Antix so if you have time to test it
that would be cool. Or maybe you could tell me to test it again?
if it is important to find out exactly what goes wrong.

One iso that failed was looking for a font and could not find it.
Rather odd error message that one. Smile

One thing that would be cool to know is how to add casper-rw
files that makes a live OS able to save changes.

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Feb 2013, 16:47    Post subject:  

nooby wrote:
One thing that would be cool to know is how to add casper-rw files that makes a live OS able to save changes.

If you want persistent storage with Ubuntu, go back to the instructions on Page 1. Use Grub4Dos instead of GRUB2 as the bootloader.

Remember that the casper method does not use a save file. You need an entire partition for storage.
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Feb 2013, 15:21    Post subject:  

took me days but finally a hasty error report.

So now today I have tested 4 different isos on a 4GB USB
and to me IsoBooter is magnitudes easier to handle than Easy2Boot.

Took me very long time to get how E2B wants me to
behave. Sorry I am just different I trust it is the best
for those who love E2B. I love Isobooter So to each his own.
Thanks to rcrsn51 for providing it .

Hasty report. Both of them fail with same isos.
Could be something I set up wrong but
the consistency tells me it is rather something
with these isos and not how one boot them with IsoBooter.

Porteus lxde has this error message at boot and then lock itself
xterm: Cannot load font ....
The other Porteus works wel.

slitaz requests events from the kernel and lock.

those I have decided to keep and that works well are
CrunchBang, Netrunner, Mint Linux LXDE, SolydXK OS
and Zorin OS

I also failed with Suse and Redhat and Mageia but
that was so long time ago me fail to remember
what did happen. I am too lazy to test them again.

Edit after reading answer from rcrsn51. So maybe my Mageia
booted but I failed to mnt the HD for to write changes to html files?
And me misremembered it to be a total failure. I deleted the file
so too lazy to go through it again sorry Smile

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Feb 2013, 16:04    Post subject:  

Thanks for testing.

ISObooter tries to simulate booting off a physical CD/DVD disc. But there's no guarantee that every distro will work that way.

FWIW, I tried Mageia 1 and it worked for me.
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d4p


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PostPosted: Tue 19 Mar 2013, 20:15    Post subject:  

@rcrsn51

wow, Isobooter is very nice tool!

I see the isobooter menu.lst: partnew (hd0,3) for temp buffer.
If I run isobooter on my usb drive with a lot of partitions, will created temp buffer overwrite one of my partition?
is there any possibility to create partnew somewhere else, where I want?

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Mar 2013, 20:21    Post subject:  

The partition (hd0,3) is not a buffer. It is just an entry in the partition table that points into the ISO that you have selected. It doesn't use any actual space on your drive. Every time you pick a new ISO, it points somewhere else.

You can change it to another unused primary partition, but it doesn't work with logical volumes.
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headfound


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PostPosted: Wed 20 Mar 2013, 09:34    Post subject:  

Wow! I'm impressed Smile
I used Isobooster yesterday to set up an old pc for my dad. Its only got an ooold 4gb(!) IDE drive, so as per instructions I formatted to fat32, set flag to boot, copied isobooster to the drive, ran it, copied two iso's and ran isobooster again, then put the drive back in and everything worked perfectly!
Savefiles created and worked as normal.
This is such an easy way to set up a pc, thankyou so much!

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PostPosted: Wed 20 Mar 2013, 09:46    Post subject:  

headfound wrote:
then put the drive back in

Glad to hear that it worked for you. But I'm a bit confused by your procedure. Did you remove the hard drive and connect it to a Puppy machine by a USB adapter?

Could you have simply left the drive in place, booted off a Puppy CD and installed ISObooter via a flash drive?
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Mar 2013, 09:57    Post subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
Did you remove the hard drive and connect it to a Puppy machine by a USB adapter?

Could you have simply left the drive in place, booted off a Puppy CD and installed ISObooter via a flash drive?


Yeah, sorry I used a usb adapter as the old pc has no optical drive.
The best way to do it would be to boot from cd, download isobooster and set up the drive while running live (actually it would be pretty handy to have isobooster included with puppy!).

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PostPosted: Wed 20 Mar 2013, 10:55    Post subject:  

Excellent. It never occurred to me to use ISObooter as a kind of one-click hard drive installer. But it would certainly be an easy method for giving someone a multi-Puppy setup.
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keniv

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Mar 2013, 15:09    Post subject:  

Hello All

I used the grub4dos method as outlined in the first post to boot the Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.iso from a 16GB USB flash drive. The reason for choosing grub4dos is that I have used it successfully to boot a number of frugal installs of different Puppies from another flash drive. I would like to be able to boot both Ubuntu and the Puppies from the 16GB flash drive. The Ubuntu iso boot works but there is no persistent storage. Is it possible to set up persistent storage when booting in this way? If it is could somebody please tell me how it is done.

Regards,

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Mar 2013, 16:40    Post subject:  

There are three methods described above - the original GRUB2 way, the original Grub4Dos way and the new ISObooter way. Which are you using?

The ISObooter way cannot provide persistence with Ubuntu. But the original Grub4Dos way can. Just follow the same procedure as with the GRUB2 way.
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