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simargl · #81 Post by **simargl** » Fri 22 Mar 2013, 15:12

ally wrote:just waiting for the iso to become available

out of interest there is another puppy with gtk3 from jan 2012

214X-GTK3-alpha10.1.iso

Yes , you are right http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=75588, but that has only 3 gtk3 applications included,
here everything except firefox uses Gtk3 - so I will leave title as is.

iso is now available!

Edit and off-topic: I's sorry, but this forum starts to look kinda boring

musher0 · #82 Post by **musher0** » Fri 22 Mar 2013, 15:22

The development file remains the same ?

simargl · #83 Post by **simargl** » Fri 22 Mar 2013, 15:25

Yes musher0, it's still the same.

ally · #84 Post by **ally** » Fri 22 Mar 2013, 15:27

booting from lenovo t61

correctly configured display, sound and ethernet

startup music nice

would be useful to have a gui for locale, keyboard mapping though

simargl · #85 Post by **simargl** » Fri 22 Mar 2013, 15:35

ally wrote:booting from lenovo t61

correctly configured display, sound and ethernet

startup music nice

would be useful to have a gui for locale, keyboard mapping though

Great! If you mean resolution is now OK, and other problems from here
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 252#693252 are now solved?

xf86-input-synaptic package is new, probably that package missing caused problems before.

ally · #86 Post by **ally** » Fri 22 Mar 2013, 15:50

hey simargl

no different machine (newer)

all apps I tried worked ok

musher0 · #87 Post by **musher0** » Fri 22 Mar 2013, 17:58

What am I doing wrong?

Should I press a key during boot to get the proper X display ?
This is my set-up (from inxi):

Machine: System: ASUS product: A7V400-MX version: 1.03 serial: 123456789000
Mobo: ASUSTek model: A7V400-MX version: 1.03 serial: 123456789000
Bios: Phoenix version: ASUS A7V400-MX 1009 date: 12/21/2004
CPU: Single core (AMD Athlon XP 2600+,1908.926,512 KB,fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8
apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow
up,3819.92,amd) (-UP-) cache: unknown flags: (-) clocked at MHz
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI R250 If [Radeon 9000]
X.org: 1.12.4 driver: radeon tty size: 129x72 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio: Card: VIA VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97
Audio Controller driver: snd_via82xx
Sound: ALSA ver: 1.0.25
Network: Card: VIA VT6102 [Rhine-II] driver: via-rhine
Drives: HDD Total Size: (1120.2GB,14.2% used) ()
1: id: /dev/sda model: ST31000528AS size: 1000.2GB
2: id: /dev/sdb model: WDC_WD1200AB size: 120.0GB

Is it compatible with alphaOS? I had the same problem with alphaOS v. 1.0.

Thanks in advance.

musher0

session · #88 Post by **session** » Fri 22 Mar 2013, 21:22

musher0, you're not the only one; same screen on my Rage 128

simargl · #89 Post by **simargl** » Fri 22 Mar 2013, 22:28

Hex musher0, I don't think you're doing anything wrong

This is issue probably caused by missing xf86-video-ati package - assumed that error appears before Xorg should start, not right on startup

following xorg video drivers are included:
xf86-video-fbdev-0.4.3-3.spkg
xf86-video-intel-2.21.3-1.spkg
xf86-video-nv-2.1.20-3.spkg
xf86-video-vesa-2.3.2-2.spkg

I thought this generic vesa driver would work for everyone...

rameshiyer · #90 Post by **rameshiyer** » Sat 23 Mar 2013, 02:29

Dear Simargl.

My humble request is to include Pacman also in alphaos. This is very easy to use and a versatile package handler. Moreover, powerful also. I like it very much. Others also having same opinion.

musher0 · #91 Post by **musher0** » Sat 23 Mar 2013, 04:53

simargl wrote:Hex musher0, I don't think you're doing anything wrong

This is issue probably caused by missing xf86-video-ati package - assumed that error appears before Xorg should start, not right on startup

following xorg video drivers are included:
xf86-video-fbdev-0.4.3-3.spkg
xf86-video-intel-2.21.3-1.spkg
xf86-video-nv-2.1.20-3.spkg
xf86-video-vesa-2.3.2-2.spkg

I thought this generic vesa driver would work for everyone...

Thanks, simagil, for reassuring me (and thanks also to "session"). I'll have to wait for the next version, I guess!

Anyway, keep up the good work!

BFN.

musher0

simargl · #92 Post by **simargl** » Sat 23 Mar 2013, 07:35

rameshiyer wrote:Dear Simargl.

My humble request is to include Pacman also in alphaos. This is very easy to use and a versatile package handler. Moreover, powerful also. I like it very much. Others also having same opinion.

It's not possible to include pacman because it would be broken, and I believe that every OS
should have just one package manager. Just try spkg -a pkgname, and it will convert PKGBUILD
from Arch repository or from AUR, to def script; compiling new package is so easy that way.

simargl · #93 Post by **simargl** » Sat 23 Mar 2013, 08:07

musher0,

if you are interested to test xf86-video-ati package (unsquash one of two main sfs, add that package files and compress sfs again) -
let me know I'll make and upload package somewhere , that is not hard to do.

darkcity · #94 Post by **darkcity** » Sat 23 Mar 2013, 09:14

simargl wrote:
rameshiyer wrote:Dear Simargl.

My humble request is to include Pacman also in alphaos. This is very easy to use and a versatile package handler. Moreover, powerful also. I like it very much. Others also having same opinion.
It's not possible to include pacman because it would be broken, and I believe that every OS
should have just one package manager. Just try spkg -a pkgname, and it will convert PKGBUILD
from Arch repository or from AUR, to def script; compiling new package is so easy that way.

It would be nice to have a little example walk thru on how to take a 'pacman' package and make it an alpha-package.

When Alpha loads additional SFSs does it update the list of packages installed?

simargl · #95 Post by **simargl** » Sat 23 Mar 2013, 09:39

Qt4 package is compiling, and expect it soon to appear in the repository

darkcity,

How to install Arch package in Alpha OS?

- script called paka used for making ArchPup is still here in Alpha, so you can install
any Arch package from any date. package is first converted to spkg format and then installed:

1) (optional) open /usr/bin/paka and change date if you want (default date="2013/03/18")

2) type: paka -Syu. This will make packages list

3) Search for package: paka -Ss pkgname

4) Convert and install package: paka -S fullpackagename

5) Convert but do not install package:paka -Sd fullpackagename

Important: Script does not resolve dependencies, and 2nd argument must be full package name

This is for directly installing Arch packages, I prefer to convert PKGBUILD to def and then compile package in Alpha OS,

although sometimes it only make sense to use Arch packages. For example gparted in Alpha is just converted Arch package

as compiling whole gtkmm, glibmm, cairomm.... for just one program would be ridiculous.

How to convert PKGBUILD from Arch to compatible def script?

spkg -a pkgname

Conversion is very good but not perfect; for example package function may require editing and package category is always set to development.

This works for ALL Arch packages, for those in official repositories and also for AUR https://aur.archlinux.org/

musher0 · #96 Post by **musher0** » Sat 23 Mar 2013, 13:50

simargl wrote:musher0,

if you are interested to test xf86-video-ati package (unsquash one of two main sfs, add that package files and compress sfs again) -
let me know I'll make and upload package somewhere , that is not hard to do.

Hello, simargil.

Well, if it's not too much trouble, I'd like that, because I'd very much like to see your new distro.

Thanks in advance.

musher0

simargl · #97 Post by **simargl** » Sat 23 Mar 2013, 15:04

Ok, I compiled xf86-video-ati first, and it showed this:

configure: The atimisc sub-driver has been split out to xf86-video-mach64:
git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/driver/xf86-video-mach64
Please install that driver as well for mach64-based cards.

configure: The r128 sub-driver has been split out to xf86-video-r128:
git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/driver/xf86-video-r128
Please install that driver as well for rage128-based cards.

So, in attachment is also included xf86-video-r128. Please test - if they work for you I will add
those two packages by default in next release.

Regards

darkcity · #98 Post by **darkcity** » Sat 23 Mar 2013, 15:30

@simargl - much thanks

I was only just getting my head round pacman (never used Arch Linux), so this guide definitely help. I appreciate native compiling is better, but the convenience of a ready compiled repository is something I find very handy.

musher0 · #99 Post by **musher0** » Sat 23 Mar 2013, 19:00

simargl wrote:Ok, I compiled xf86-video-ati first, and it showed this:

configure: The atimisc sub-driver has been split out to xf86-video-mach64:
git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/driver/xf86-video-mach64
Please install that driver as well for mach64-based cards.

configure: The r128 sub-driver has been split out to xf86-video-r128:
git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/driver/xf86-video-r128
Please install that driver as well for rage128-based cards.

So, in attachment is also included xf86-video-r128. Please test - if they work for you I will add
those two packages by default in next release.

Regards

Thanks, simargil.

Obviously, I'll have to integrate your package to the alphaOS squash file from outside of alphaOS, since with my set-up the alphaOS console is kaput at the moment. Can you explain to me how I can do it without destroying anything?

Thanks in advance.

musher0

Scooby · #100 Post by **Scooby** » Sat 23 Mar 2013, 19:59

simargl wrote: Important: Script does not resolve dependencies, and 2nd argument must be full package name

This is for directly installing Arch packages, I prefer to convert PKGBUILD to def and then compile package in Alpha OS,

So how do you handle dependencies?

If not using paca but convert PKGBUILD to def will this
automagically include dependencies?

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