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Gnuxo

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Mar 2013, 18:57    Post subject:  
...Does this personal data .sfs record changes to the file system or just the home folder?

How does it know which settings or files go where?

I was under the impression that the personal data .sfs was just the home folder.
*I'm probably wrong.*
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PostPosted: Mon 18 Mar 2013, 14:44    Post subject: Installation kopiert keine Dateien  
Hallo,

das neue Lazy Puppy ist wirklich beeindruckend im Live Betrieb.
Leider kopiert es bei der Installation keine Daten, also jedenfalls nicht in das LazyPuppy202 Verzeichnis, siehe Screenshot.
Partition war leer und mit ext3 formatiert.
Eine Idee? Ach ich habe die Updates installiert, die mir vorgeschlagen wurden.... 2 pets...

Gruß & Danke
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PostPosted: Mon 18 Mar 2013, 19:42    Post subject:  
neo1967 wrote:
Hallo,

das neue Lazy Puppy ist wirklich beeindruckend im Live Betrieb.
Leider kopiert es bei der Installation keine Daten, also jedenfalls nicht in das LazyPuppy202 Verzeichnis, siehe Screenshot.
Partition war leer und mit ext3 formatiert.
Eine Idee? Ach ich habe die Updates installiert, die mir vorgeschlagen wurden.... 2 pets...

Hallo neo1967.

Das passiert, wenn bei der Installation (von CD?) das CD Laufwerk nicht eingebunden (ge-mounted) ist. Beim Installieren und beim Remastern ist es erforderlich, das Startlaufwerk einzubinden - LazY Puppy findet sonst die zu kopierenden Dateien nicht und somit bleibt die Partition bzw. das Verzeichnis leer.

Wenn Du eine manuelle, frugale Installation vornimmst, ist es notwendig (im Gegensatz zu anderen Puppies) ALLE Dateien von der CD zu kopieren - NICHT nur die üblichen drei ! ! !

Und: ich empfehle, KEINE ext Partition zu verwenden!

Gnuxo wrote:
...Does this personal data .sfs record changes to the file system or just the home folder?

How does it know which settings or files go where?

I was under the impression that the personal data .sfs was just the home folder.
*I'm probably wrong.*

The user has "to tell" what files go into the Personal Data SFS by just doing a right-click on a file or directory. These files are now marked (which means to put into a list, there are different lists for files and directories). These lists are used to copy the files either into teh running OS or into the Personal Data SFS (when saving). If one wants to add files to the Personal Data SFS manually, he has to edit these lists as well to take effect.

Theoretically it can be used just for files in /root but even on other files as well - by now I didn't have made any further testings on this, so, I can not make promises on that.

We will see...

RSH
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PostPosted: Tue 19 Mar 2013, 14:52    Post subject:  
Hi.

Here are some good news for the LazY Puppy users that use a save file and want to boot more than the usual 6 sfs files at boot up.

LazY Puppy is prepaired to load up to 64 sfs files at boot up, but I did never found a way, how to get them loaded by the boot manager. I tried everything that comes in mind, but had to give up - unfortunately...

Today, when re-thinking about the work done on the new LazY Puppy adrv-option, I could see it totally clear at my inner eye...

I have posted this already in a related post at the HowTo-Section of the forum, but this is for users of other puppies. For LazY Puppy users it's a lot easier to get this to work.

Ok, do a right-click on the initrd.gz (inside the boot directory of your LazY Puppy Installation) and choose option to edit the initrd.gz. After initrd.gz is extracted, geany comes up with some files opened - just close it!

Go to /root and check for directory init_rd_tmp. If it is there, run the script (create a script and copy/paste this code into the script):
Code:
#!/bin/bash -a
#------------------------------------------------------------------------------
# Make loop devices 11 to 67 for LazY Puppy
# LazY Puppy is then able to laod 64 sfs files at boot up
# 2013-03-19 RSH for LazY Puppy
#------------------------------------------------------------------------------

for i in 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67;
do
   mknod -m664 /root/Init_rd_tmp/dev/loop$i b 7 $i
done
exit 0

#------------------------------------------------------------------------------
# End
#------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Go to /root/Init_rd_tmp/dev and look for the loop11 up to loop67 files...

...all loopXX files are created?

Go to /root/Init_rd_tmp/initrd and create the pup_ro10 directory manually.

Make a right-click on /root/Init_rd_tmp and choose option to rebuild the initrd.gz.

Copy the new created initrd.gz in /root to the boot directory of your LazY Puppy Installation (overwrite existing one, backup is already there).

Reboot!

Have fun loading now up to 64 sfs files at boot up with LazY Puppy!

RSH

EDIT:

Check file /etc/rc.d/rc.update for this code:
Code:
  #v431 added 6 7 8 9
  # LazY Puppy added 10 - 67
  for LAYERNUM in 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67
  do
   [ -f /initrd/pup_ro$LAYERNUM/root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin ] && cat /initrd/pup_ro$LAYERNUM/root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin >> /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin
   [ -f /initrd/pup_ro$LAYERNUM/root/Choices/ROX-Filer/globicons ] && cat /initrd/pup_ro$LAYERNUM/root/Choices/ROX-Filer/globicons >> /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/globicons
  done

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Mar 2013, 23:44    Post subject:  
That affects Lazy Puppy 2.0 users?
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PostPosted: Fri 22 Mar 2013, 00:39    Post subject:  
Gnuxo wrote:
That affects Lazy Puppy 2.0 users?

Yes, this should work from LazY Puppy 2.0.1 and up...

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Mar 2013, 14:22    Post subject: Cette distro est un petit bijou !
Subject description: Lazy Puppy is a jewel !		  
Lazy Puppy is a jewel ! Nice, Rich, Safe ;
In my opinion the best one since Legacy OS mini.
What a pleasure to use it, i should spend hours and hours looking inside.
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Mar 2013, 05:25    Post subject:  
Lieber Herr RSH;
Congratulation for your success with school computer. Smile
I believe the number of LazY student in Germany will markedly increase in the near future.
For the sake of addiction why not add some more games for them?

I've just found that MultiPup3.3 CD/DVD Creator doesn't work at all.

Please tell me how to run this wonderful fractware in Puppy. It's the best of all probably.
http://www.andreas-maschke.de/java/j-wildfire-0.67r3.zip
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Mar 2013, 10:36    Post subject:  
Hi.

Pelo wrote:
Lazy Puppy is a jewel ! Nice, Rich, Safe ;
In my opinion the best one since Legacy OS mini.
What a pleasure to use it, i should spend hours and hours looking inside.

Thank you very much! Very Happy

But please, do not look into LazY Puppy. The only things you'll find/discover will be:

- I'm not a programmer
- I'm not a Linux Expert
- I'm not a Puppy Linux Expert

It works though...

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Just kidding. Do have a look inside and modify it for your own purposes!

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Lieber Herr RSH;
Congratulation for your success with school computer. Smile
I believe the number of LazY student in Germany will markedly increase in the near future.
For the sake of addiction why not add some more games for them?

Ahhhh, NO.

I don't like computer games very much because of the computer-game-addiction of my elder son. In my private version of LazY Puppy I have removed games category completely. Sorry, that's a job the user has to do, if he wants to waste the LazY Puppy for playing games.

the last saviour wrote:
I've just found that MultiPup3.3 CD/DVD Creator doesn't work at all.

That's a surprise, because I have already used this. Can you explain please a little more, what doesn't work?

the last saviour wrote:
Please tell me how to run this wonderful fractware in Puppy. It's the best of all probably.
http://www.andreas-maschke.de/java/j-wildfire-0.67r3.zip
Danke

Yes.

Download this and store it in the boot directory of your LazY Puppy installation.

After this do a right-click onto the SFS and choose Create a RunScript (or similar, I'm in a German Desktop). Make sure to activate option to copy Icons and Menu Entry (.desktop file) into the running OS. Select the wildfire entry presented in the GUI to create the RunScript as well.

If the RunScript is successfully created go to the Graphics or Favorites Menu and try to run the application from the menu. It should then download a needed dependent SFS (Java) and storing it automatically into your boot directory. After successfully downloaded the dependent SFS will be loaded as well and the WildFire Application should run.

Currently I have more than 40 SFS files loaded, so, I can not tell if these SFS files do include other dependent files (libs etc.). If it won't run on your side, let me know and I will examine this again.

It seems to work here though.

RSH
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Mar 2013, 11:56    Post subject:  
Hi.

WildFire seems to work, but it saves the image in a different color as it is shown inside the application.

Inside the Application it is blue. When rendered and saved, the image is red. If loading into Gimp, the image is green. That's really weird.

If you find out how to render a image in its colors shown in the application, I would appreciate to know this.

Thanks

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Apr 2013, 01:51    Post subject:  
Hi.

I have to make an addition to this post: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=693125#693125 (Post updated on: 2013-04-06)

There is a small issue when editing the initrd.gz to increase the ability of LazY Puppy to load more than 6 SFS files at boot up. Inside the initrd.gz are 10 loop devices in /dev - but there are only 9 pup_ro directories in /initrd. So, all who made some work on this must edit the initrd.gz again and create the pup_ro10 directory in /initrd manually.

Then everything should be working fine!

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PostPosted: Tue 09 Apr 2013, 05:39    Post subject:  
Lieber Herr RSH;
Thank for JWF.sfs file. It's faster to work in Puppy than Winslow.
JWF only need Java6 to run.

How long did it take for you to make this SFS file?
Do you want to make some more?

The rendering problem occured because JWF put the intermediated file in the save folder. But show the one you want in the pop up window. To save this one you MUST MAXIMIZE that window, then click File---Save, and replace that intermediated file. Caution don't minimize this window, otherwise you will waste your time rendering it again. Sad
I think there's something wrong with Puppy while Java running. It often makes the DVDRom run and increase the CPU temp up to 105C. It also happens in browser with javascript enable. After I delete the suspected java file, no strange behavior happened. I guess that some line in some Java script is harmful to Puppy!

Viele dank.
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PostPosted: Tue 09 Apr 2013, 11:39    Post subject:  
Quote:
Lieber Herr RSH;
Thank for JWF.sfs file. It's faster to work in Puppy than Winslow.
JWF only need Java6 to run.

How long did it take for you to make this SFS file?
Do you want to make some more?

You can do a right-click onto the WildFire SFS and choose 'Add dependencies'. Remove the added Java Dependenciy from list and add your preferred Java SFS file.

It takes mostly a few minutes to build the SFS file plus a few minutes to edit the .desktop file (menu entry), to make sure the icon will be found and to have a german menu entry. So, complete procedure is mostly done in less than 30 minutes.

If you got some links and I could get this files to work in LazY Puppy, I surely would like to make some more SFS files!

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The rendering problem occured because JWF put the intermediated file in the save folder. But show the one you want in the pop up window. To save this one you MUST MAXIMIZE that window, then click File---Save, and replace that intermediated file. Caution don't minimize this window, otherwise you will waste your time rendering it again.

I've tried a lot with different images using different colors - always the same red image is saved. It looks like it is a negative image. Thanks for the tip. Will try this later tonight.

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I think there's something wrong with Puppy while Java running. It often makes the DVDRom run and increase the CPU temp up to 105C. It also happens in browser with javascript enable. After I delete the suspected java file, no strange behavior happened. I guess that some line in some Java script is harmful to Puppy!

Can't say anything on that, except: I did never notice such behavior of a Java SFS file.

Thanks for the reply

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PostPosted: Tue 09 Apr 2013, 15:56    Post subject:  
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The rendering problem occured because JWF put the intermediated file in the save folder. But show the one you want in the pop up window. To save this one you MUST MAXIMIZE that window, then click File---Save, and replace that intermediated file. Caution don't minimize this window, otherwise you will waste your time rendering it again.

Yes, this works. Thanks a lot!

I just did not notice there is a menu after rendering the image...

This (JWildFire) is really a nice program. It will increase the number of my own created wallpapers, of course! Smile
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PostPosted: Wed 17 Apr 2013, 23:15    Post subject:  
I haven't been on this laptop for a while, I'm back on Lazy and I decided that I'd best update the flash player.

I downloaded the newest dotpets off these forums and decided it would be quicker that way. But when I click on them, I get an error saying that there's a wrong password or I'm not running as advanced user...

I don't think there's supposed to be a password. And I don't know what it is.
I can't get it to stop asking for one.

I tried making an .sfs from the flashplayer.pet but that doesn't seem to actually install.

I don't know what's going on.
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