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Full chart with kernel versions
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mini-jaguar

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Mar 2013, 07:52    Post subject:  Full chart with kernel versions  

I think there may be a chart somewhere with the official versions (other than the Distro Watch charts which are full of errors), but I would like see a chart which includes the kernel for the derivatives and projects. Of course it would be hard to do for all the derivatives, but it would be nice for at least some.

They are sometimes mentioned in threads, sometimes not, sometimes you have to go through the whole thread, which makes it pretty complicated...

The reason being is that certain versions of the 3.* kernels have some incompatibility with older computers. Of course natural selection is going to make these Puppy versions less used, but it would be nice to compare.
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`f00


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PostPosted: Sun 24 Mar 2013, 20:12    Post subject:
Subject description: few..
 

Some (not much besides archpup in the 3 series kernel) are charted at

http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PuppyVersion

but it's kind of tricky keeping up with the latest kernel-in-use, test versions go up and down etc
(not to mention other factors like compatibility with packages Wink )

hth
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linuxcbon

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Mar 2013, 15:15    Post subject:  

Kernel version doesnt matter. What you need to check is if kernel was compiled for 486,586,686,... cpus and ditto for programs.
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nubc


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PostPosted: Tue 26 Mar 2013, 01:26    Post subject:  

Here is a bare-bones listing of Puppy versions. Perhaps you could suggest a system of superscripts to denote kernel version or architecture compiled for. Or just make a supplementary catalog of versions related to kernel version/target architecture.

Puppy Linux Mind Map
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=62727
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6502coder

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Mar 2013, 14:29    Post subject:  

linuxcbon wrote:
Kernel version doesnt matter. What you need to check is if kernel was compiled for 486,586,686,... cpus and ditto for programs.


Surely kernel version does matter, for example if you are compiling a driver and need to know which kernel source patch SFS to use. Or have I misunderstood this thread?
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ally


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PostPosted: Tue 26 Mar 2013, 16:32    Post subject:  

where is the kernel version stored within a distro?

can a script be designed to retrieve the info?

if so will generate a list from my collection

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James C


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PostPosted: Tue 26 Mar 2013, 16:58    Post subject:  

In a terminal just run "uname -r" .... without the quotes. I'm in Lucid 528.005....

Code:
# uname -r
2.6.33.2
#


or "uname -a" ...

Code:
# uname -a
Linux puppypc 2.6.33.2 #1 SMP Thu May 27 10:56:32 EST 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
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ally


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PostPosted: Tue 26 Mar 2013, 18:21    Post subject:  

hey james

I wondered if there is a way of obtaining the kernel version from looking into the iso?

there's too iso's to boot up and uname to get the answers.......

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darkcity


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PostPosted: Wed 27 Mar 2013, 13:28    Post subject:
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`f00 wrote:
Some (not much besides archpup in the 3 series kernel) are charted at

http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PuppyVersion

but it's kind of tricky keeping up with the latest kernel-in-use, test versions go up and down etc
(not to mention other factors like compatibility with packages Wink )

hth


It would be helpful if people could add in the kernel versions they know on to the wiki list, or comment them below.

Also, note to devs, it helps if kernel version is included in the release announcement.

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raffy

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PostPosted: Wed 27 Mar 2013, 18:42    Post subject: iso  

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I wondered if there is a way of obtaining the kernel version from looking into the iso?

You can open (mount) the ISO by clicking on it and then mount again the puppy sfs to read DISTRO_KERNEL_PET in /etc/DISTRO_SPECS.

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Keef


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PostPosted: Wed 27 Mar 2013, 18:45    Post subject:  

ally,

Don't know how to automate it, but if you just mount the iso then right click on vmlinuz in Rox, and look at 'properties', it contains kernel info.
[EDIT]
Yes there is a way. This script extracts the kernel config from a vmlinuz. You don't need all of it, so a bit of grep and cut, should get rid of the chaff.
Change line 25 to
Code:
   cat $tmp1 | grep "Linux kernel version"

and you just get
Code:
 Linux kernel version: 2.6.24.3
rather than the whole config file.
If someone more useful than me can do the bit to mount and unmount the isos, (and also extract the iso name) you might be in business.

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Karl Godt


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PostPosted: Wed 27 Mar 2013, 18:54    Post subject:  

Another simple check is to mount the .iso and mount the .sfs or zdrv.sfs , go to /lib/modules and there should be a folder with the kernel version and extra-name (same as uname -r).

Some kernels seem to be tricky, just showing 2.6.39 : the kernel major, kernel minor and kernel sublevel, without showing the patchlevel or the extra name ( applies also for the uname command).

My Dell has the same problems, if i want to reboot, i use kernels below 2.6.37 .
Slacko-5.3 has kernel 2.6.37.6 and my own 2.6.37.4 show the same not working reboot behavior.
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ally


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PostPosted: Wed 27 Mar 2013, 18:55    Post subject:  

thanks keef

will start compiling details......

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CatDude


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PostPosted: Fri 29 Mar 2013, 11:30    Post subject:  

Hi

Attached is a list obtained from what i have backed-up on DVD's,
it is in the format suggested by the name Wink Wink
ie:
    ISO-name, kernel-version, md5sum

Hope someone finds it useful.

CatDude
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220-iso-kernel-md5sum.gnumeric.gz
Description 
gz

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Filename  220-iso-kernel-md5sum.gnumeric.gz 
Filesize  12.13 KB 
Downloaded  187 Time(s) 

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Karl Godt


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PostPosted: Sat 06 Apr 2013, 17:03    Post subject:  

Well done, Catdude !
I have saved it as .txt with delimiter '|' PIPE and sorted it with
Code:
busybox sort -d -k2,2 -t '|' 220-iso-kernel-md5sum.txt >220-iso-kernel-md5sum.ksort12.txt

Note : The '12' in ksort12 stands for the 12th attempt to sort it. Sort and Busybox sort are nasty companions, may differ in different LANG and LC_ALL settings.
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