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ThinSlacko - March 2013 (deltas released May 2013)
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01micko


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PostPosted: Sun 31 Mar 2013, 00:04    Post subject:  ThinSlacko - March 2013 (deltas released May 2013)
Subject description: based on 5.5 started at k3.8.4 - latest delta is 3.9.1
 

ThinSlacko

This is Slacko designed for slightly older kit. It should run fine on a PIII 600MHz with 256MB RAM, or even lower specs. Flies on fast kit.

Get it from here

All you need is at that link, ISO, devx, kernel source, checksums, supplementary adrive [with Opera, ffmpeg-8.4-i486, Pmusic and Pburn] plus kernel pet and supplementary pets (these are included in builds, only to be used for woofing).

Features

  • Adrive aware, not included in iso
  • optimised for pentium III cpu, should be ok on k6 (AMD), NO PAE
  • minimal programs, only links browser and most of the basic puppy gtkdialog gui
  • 2 iso images, one XZ compressed (122MB), the other GZ compressed (145MB)
  • f2fs capability, with installer for USB drives


Deltas for newer version are available on page 4, XZ only

Unfortunately, it doesn't quite load in all cases in under 256 MB RAM, but it will run fine with that but occasionally pulls files from the CD. It wont pull from the CD though if you have swap. It's near impossible to remove mesa (the source of the bloat in recent pups @ ~30MB compressed) and still support the majority of hardware.

There is a script called "build-iso" at the link. You can read the README for PHATSlacko, plus there is a script unpack_pkgs2sfs to help with building Adrives from pets and tgz/txz slackware packages.

If you have PHATSlacko, you could probably use that Adrive in place of the original.

Have a Happy Easter Sunday Funday!

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01micko


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PostPosted: Sun 31 Mar 2013, 00:06    Post subject:  

here be dots
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fix for trash icon - attached
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James C


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PostPosted: Sun 31 Mar 2013, 00:57    Post subject: Re: ThinSlacko - March 2013
Subject description: based on 5.5
 

01micko wrote:
ThinSlacko

This is Slacko designed for slightly older kit. It should run fine on a PIII 600MHz with 256MB RAM, or even lower specs. Flies on fast kit.


Nice surprise for the holiday weekend. Always enjoy something new to experiment with..... Smile
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PostPosted: Sun 31 Mar 2013, 01:31    Post subject: Re: ThinSlacko - March 2013
Subject description: based on 5.5
 

James C wrote:
01micko wrote:
ThinSlacko

This is Slacko designed for slightly older kit. It should run fine on a PIII 600MHz with 256MB RAM, or even lower specs. Flies on fast kit.


Nice surprise for the holiday weekend. Always enjoy something new to experiment with..... Smile


I do not like surprises! just finish downloading the last version tonight, have not even burned it to DVD I log on to check PMs and what do I see..... A new version ... Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun 31 Mar 2013, 01:39    Post subject:  

Well... I did warn everyone on the 28th March Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun 31 Mar 2013, 02:04    Post subject:  

Fresh manual frugal install of ThinSlacko (xz version) on the trusty Athlon XP box.All basics working on initial boot.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: ThinSlacko Puppy, version 5.5.01

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1440x900
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
2066 frames in 5.0 seconds = 413.085 FPS
2052 frames in 5.0 seconds = 410.226 FPS
2122 frames in 5.0 seconds = 424.296 FPS
2088 frames in 5.0 seconds = 417.526 FPS
2110 frames in 5.0 seconds = 421.825 FPS
2092 frames in 5.0 seconds = 418.314 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1033MB (175MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : ThinSlacko Puppy - 5.5.01
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun 31 Mar 2013 01:07:12 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI nv18 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

See if you can spot the "bug" in the screenshot. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun 31 Mar 2013, 02:06    Post subject:  

Yeah, should have put it as a "known issue" Laughing , not a showstopper though!. It straightens up if res is less than 1280 (X axis). I'm guessing most "old" kit is hooked up to "old" monitors so I didn't bother with it.
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PostPosted: Sun 31 Mar 2013, 02:35    Post subject:  

01micko wrote:
Well... I did warn everyone on the 28th March Laughing


OK, But you got so many other irons in the fire.... I've already blew past my UNLIMITED download cap-speed before the other download by about 8Gb and I still got 20 hours left this month/today! Not sure how much they are trying to drop my connect but with wget Meh, the computer just keeps trying
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PostPosted: Sun 31 Mar 2013, 02:38    Post subject:  

01micko wrote:
not a showstopper though


I might have one (in XOfied THINslacko Wink ).
Installing a Slackware package with PPM (tried DSL), shows the process as finished but never downloads and installs.
I'll check with the original to verify

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PostPosted: Sun 31 Mar 2013, 02:41    Post subject:  

Quote:
doesn't quite load in all cases in under 256 MB RAM

....always grateful for your esteemed offerings, mick, but...!
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PostPosted: Sun 31 Mar 2013, 02:46    Post subject:  

Sage wrote:
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doesn't quite load in all cases in under 256 MB RAM

....always grateful for your esteemed offerings, mick, but...!
It can't really be chopped any more and still support near everything.. (opera is in the adrive.. tempted? Laughing ..and I nearly went with GOaB wall)

@mavrothal, I tested syslinux-4.0.5 from slackware before I posted the isos.. it's integral to extra functionality in the f2fs-installer

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PostPosted: Sun 31 Mar 2013, 03:05    Post subject:  

01micko wrote:

@mavrothal, I tested syslinux-4.0.5 from slackware before I posted the isos.. it's integral to extra functionality in the f2fs-installer


Tried it in "normal" ThinSlacko. sdl-1.2.14, SDL-pango, SDL_gfx are doing this. Other not. Interestingly trying to install assaultcube downloads and installs dsl-1.2.14 (a dependency) twice!
I'll check PHAT. Maybe is something with the repos or PPM.

Yep. Also true in PHAT.
What is "interesting" is how it fools PPM to think that everything is OK. Requires some digging I guess.

Latter No time to check them myself today but I added
Code:
set -x
NAME="`basename $0`"
exec 2>/tmp/petgetlog/"$NAME".log
in all the /usr/local/petget scripts, "installed" dsl-1.2.14 with PPM and I attach the /tmp/petgetlog folder here
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PostPosted: Sun 31 Mar 2013, 05:20    Post subject:  

Quote:
can't really be chopped any more and still support near everything

The context of "Slim" predicates the removal of loads without inviting groans from those who wish for more (as well as those imbued with poor reading and comprehension skills!)
Some basic utilities to setup, text editor, a browser and a PPM is all that's needed to get started? Music, video, SIP and all that are legitimate add-ins, perhaps with your inspired recommendations with locations and other advice in a simple text file? Of course - one still has to grapple with getting a picture on the screen...

Wood/trees, horses/courses.

Oh, and Happy Eastertide whatever your denomination or none.
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PostPosted: Sun 31 Mar 2013, 08:44    Post subject: NM10  

On Intel NM10 laptop with 1024x600 screen, direct rendering works at 175 fps (glxgears). However, xorgwizard has to be commanded at first boot to get into X (same with PHATslacko).

Did not see VLC, so installed it via PPM/puppy-slacko14 together with ffmpeg. When playing video full-screen, load gets to as high as 85% CPU utilization (only 75% in PHATlacko).

Had to reboot 2x to use adrv (is this correct?).

Thanks, Micko.

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PostPosted: Sun 31 Mar 2013, 09:08    Post subject: ThinSlacko - March 2013  

I did a manual frugal install to a 4gb flash drive.
video-info-glx 1.5.1 Sun 31 Mar 2013 on ThinSlacko Puppy 5.5.01
Linux 3.8.5.0 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV530 [Radeon X1600]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RV530 01.00
X Server: Xorg Driver: radeon
X.Org version: 1.12.3
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: X.Org R300 Project
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV530
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3300+
Core 0: @1800 MHz

This pc has no shortage of memory but I wanted to compare with PHATSlacko,
it does run faster I think.
I installed Chromium from ppm and some slacko pets that I have on a
flash drive.
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