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PHATSlacko - March 2013
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peebee


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PostPosted: Sun 31 Mar 2013, 16:12    Post subject: Re: PHATSlacko - March 2013
Subject description: slacko plus extras
 

01micko wrote:
[*]Important AUFS bugfix for sfs_load OTF sfs loader (shino), (peebee, test please?)
Have fun!


Hi Mick

Pristine frugal install (pfix=ram, no savefile).

979MB ram available on my laptop after install.

SFS-load-on-the-fly the devx kills PhatSlacko dead....the kernel-source sfs loads without any problem.

Loading the sfs's using the boot manager after a reboot and savefile creation works fine.

I was then able to compile the Broadcom wl driver for PhatSlacko 5.5.02 - to be found here

One oddity with the Boot Manager was that it offered the A-Drive to be loaded - see screenie.

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PostPosted: Sun 31 Mar 2013, 16:19    Post subject:  

James C wrote:

Did notice that the 3.8.x kernels on the boxes with the newer Nvidia chips always has a string of errors when running "glxgears" ....... I'll try to get it to run long enough later to grab a copy.If I can grab it before the computer freezes up..... Laughing


Code:
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: PHATSlacko Puppy, version 5.5.02

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
  Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768x16
  Depth (bits, or planes):              24
  Modules requested to be loaded:       dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
  Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
  Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
  Resolution:  1366x768 pixels (361x203 millimeters)
  Depth:       24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
nvfx_screen_get_param:95 -  Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 30
nvfx_screen_get_param:95 -  Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 30
nvfx_screen_get_param:95 -  Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 55
nvfx_screen_get_param:95 -  Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 56
nvfx_screen_get_param:95 -  Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 59
nvfx_screen_get_param:95 -  Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 58
nvfx_screen_get_param:95 -  Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 30
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
5042 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1008.340 FPS
4814 frames in 5.0 seconds = 962.795 FPS
5631 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1125.900 FPS
5638 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1127.376 FPS
5633 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1126.496 FPS
5628 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1125.575 FPS


Better get this post submitted before this thing freezes again.
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PostPosted: Sun 31 Mar 2013, 16:24    Post subject:  

Back in Windows 7 ..... submitted the above post,opened Hardinfo to add more hardware info and had an instant freeze with distorted display and no keyboard input.Hard poweroff.

EDIT:
Both Nvidia boxes in question have 4Gb + ram and the dual-core has 6 Gb swap.

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PostPosted: Sun 31 Mar 2013, 16:36    Post subject: Re: PHATSlacko - March 2013
Subject description: slacko plus extras
 

peebee wrote:
01micko wrote:
[*]Important AUFS bugfix for sfs_load OTF sfs loader (shino), (peebee, test please?)
Have fun!

979MB ram available on my laptop after install.

SFS-load-on-the-fly the devx kills PhatSlacko dead....the kernel-source sfs loads without any problem.

Very curious.. I'd speculate agiain... ram crash, but that behaviour you describe is not typical of ram crash. Usually the display freezes and the computer becomes totally unresponsive. If it only happens in RAM then it probably is, but if you can reproduce after a save then it's not.

Bootmanager needs patching to be Adrive aware.

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PostPosted: Sun 31 Mar 2013, 16:41    Post subject:  

James C wrote:
Back in Windows 7 ..... submitted the above post,opened Hardinfo to add more hardware info and had an instant freeze with distorted display and no keyboard input.Hard poweroff.
Might have to await 3.9 James before you can have any fun with f2fs! BTW, I did read about PV's avoidance of 3.8x. What gets me is how the kernel devs get some things so wrong when in previous versions they were stable . Confused .
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PostPosted: Sun 31 Mar 2013, 17:12    Post subject:  

PHATSlacko on another older box .....Windows 7/PCLOS/various Puppy installs. No problems again.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: PHATSlacko Puppy, version 5.5.02

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G98 [GeForce 8400 GS] (rev a1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768x16
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
2427 frames in 5.0 seconds = 485.368 FPS
2495 frames in 5.0 seconds = 498.894 FPS
2654 frames in 5.0 seconds = 530.725 FPS
2663 frames in 5.0 seconds = 532.478 FPS
2580 frames in 5.0 seconds = 515.341 FPS

Computer-
Processor : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.80GHz
Memory : 1033MB (228MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : PHATSlacko Puppy - 5.5.02
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun 31 Mar 2013 03:16:07 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on NV98
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : CMI8738-MC6 - C-Media CMI8738
Audio Adapter : ICH4 - Intel ICH5

Looks like PHATSlacko works on my older hardware....just not the newer Nvidia boxes.Think I'll pass on testing on the really new hardware though.
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Apr 2013, 03:58    Post subject: Re: PHATSlacko - March 2013
Subject description: slacko plus extras
 

01micko wrote:
but if you can reproduce after a save then it's not.
Thanks


Hi Mick

My apologies - I should have tested this before - after the creation of a savefile the devx loads with sfs-load-on-the-fly with no problem.

So the problem only occurs when running in ram - seems like 2GB isn't enough for PhatSlacko + devx for some reason? Suppose it would be nice if it failed a bit more gracefully.

When I said "kills" BTW - I meant that the laptop froze almost completely and had to be switched off to recover - the screen display was still there but frozen, the mouse was moving but inoperable and the tray "activity" display was still incrementing and gradually got redder and redder (sorry don't know what the technical terms should be for this display).

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Apr 2013, 05:57    Post subject: My problems with PhatSlacko... :(  

Hi Mick!

I've been really enjoying your latest release of Slacko ( 5.5 is it? ) especially where my older Dell refused to run your earlier versions and I was left out and couldn't play around. Sad But since then I've had a motherboard failure ( hence why I was absent from the forum for some 4 months last year ) and a friend gave me a newer Dell computer being thrown out from his high school where he'd there computer department tech - they're upgrading for 2013. This machine is a dual-core p4 2.7gigs 64k with 1.5g of RAM/2.6g of swap and a 160g hard drive ( well... the drive was my own as these things were connected to the main server of course ).

This baby runs the current Slacko just fine! Cool

But it's the PHATSlacko that I'm having problems with, which is too bad because I really enjoyed that version as well.

It works perfectly fine as a frugal, and I have the power to run it that way. But I like hard drive installs mainly. And that's where this PHATSlacko falls on its nose: After several attempts of installing to a clean 44.5g partition it does the same thing each time, and that is that only half the files seem to install - and yet it goes through all the correct install procedure. You have no clue that anything went wrong until you mount the partition and look at all the directories. In "/" some of the important ones which are missing are like "/bin", and I believe "/sbin", etc. Looking into "/root" there are only something like 6 or 8 directories in there. "/usr/share" has perhaps 10 directories... and I think you get my point?

My download checked out correctly with the md5sum and everything. And yes, when removing the files from the .iso with ISOMaster I even remembered to include the "adrive". However, in the install to the hard drive this behaviour makes me wonder whether or not the installer is seeing the adrive and its files?

Also, like PeeBee? I, too, got the same bootloader reaction as he, and continue doing so, each time I load PHATSlacko with the pfix=ram setting.

I wonder if others are getting behaviours like these and not reporting them?

Thanks for your time Mick and all. And sorry for the long posting. I wanted to be as thorough as possible where I'm not always on the forum as I once was in the past...

Cheers/Amicalement,

Eyes-Only
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Apr 2013, 10:10    Post subject:  

Tried it on my Core Duo iMac and everything worked OOB!
Posting from it.
Correct video driver, Broadcom wireless, sound, second (mirror) monitor, etc (did I mentioned that this baby is impressive? Very Happy).
I even mounted my HFS mac volume (after loading the hfs module), though manually and read-only.
"Manually" is actually preferable, but "read-only" is not (if any rescue is attempted).
Any idea how to get HFS+ mac Volumes mounted rw in Slacko?

Latter It just needed hfsprogs (and its libbsd dependency) from slackware.
Maybe include it in 5503. Add few window/Apple repair utilities and not only you have a Solid highly usable OS but also a "do it all" rescue CD Wink

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Apr 2013, 11:33    Post subject: PHATSlacko - March 2013  

I've been running upup-raring-3841 successfully on this imac for a
couple of days but I thought I'd better give PHATSlacko a try as well
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video-info-glx 1.5.1 Mon 1 Apr 2013 on PHATSlacko Puppy 5.5.02
Linux 3.8.5.1 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon HD 2400 XT
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: M74 01.00
X Server: Xorg Driver: radeon
X.Org version: 1.12.3
dimensions: 1680x1050 pixels (444x277 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: X.Org
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV610
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8135 @ 2.40GHz
Core 0: @800 1: @800 MHz
Network controller Broadcom Corporation BCM4321 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 05)

This mac is becoming Puppy Central.

EDIT:Installing guvcview from ppm broke it, back to upup for now.
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PostPosted: Tue 02 Apr 2013, 01:11    Post subject: Re: PHATSlacko - March 2013  

Billtoo wrote:
EDIT:Installing guvcview from ppm broke it, back to upup for now.


Did you install the entire 65MB Gtk3 stack that guvcview pulls in Slackware 14 or just the minimal dependencies?

BTW, guvcview/webacm support should probably be included in a "PHAT"puppy.
In v5503 then? (something for on the next school brake Very Happy )

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Apr 2013, 02:13    Post subject: Re: PHATSlacko - March 2013  

mavrothal wrote:
Billtoo wrote:
EDIT:Installing guvcview from ppm broke it, back to upup for now.


Did you install the entire 65MB Gtk3 stack that guvcview pulls in Slackware 14 or just the minimal dependencies?

BTW, guvcview/webacm support should probably be included in a "PHAT"puppy.
In v5503 then? (something for on the next school brake Very Happy )


Yeah, well full gtk3 is there, in Adrive. I have introduced the idea of PPM supporting SFS to Barry, no response as yet, but I bet he's thinking about it.

Next will have guvcview in Adrive.

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Apr 2013, 02:36    Post subject:  

Do you have an MD5sum for the Delta file in the first post that changes Phatslacko 5.5.00 to 5.5.02?
I ask for those that may end up with a corrupted download so it would be good to verify the integrity of the download.
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PostPosted: Tue 02 Apr 2013, 05:58    Post subject: Re: PHATSlacko - March 2013  

mavrothal wrote:
Billtoo wrote:
EDIT:Installing guvcview from ppm broke it, back to upup for now.


Did you install the entire 65MB Gtk3 stack that guvcview pulls in Slackware 14 or just the minimal dependencies?

BTW, guvcview/webacm support should probably be included in a "PHAT"puppy.
In v5503 then? (something for on the next school brake Very Happy )


I started with a new savefile and installed guvcview in ppm, left out gtk+ and a couple of other dependencies, I must have guess right because it's working now.

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Apr 2013, 21:15    Post subject: Re: PHATSlacko - March 2013
Subject description: slacko plus extras
 

So, now that FireFOX 20 has been released, will the Adrive.sfs be updated?
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