fonts not displayed correctly (intel/kernel>3.x) (Solved)

[popov]

Hello

The way letters appear on the screen is pretty disturbing. It's not only in Seamonkey browser, certain other windows have it as well, including Word processors and and even system tabs.



Edit: updated post

[Ted Dog]

I've noted same character tearing on one computer with a newer nvidia card first time today also in seamonkey. If I scroll it corrects. If it was the 1980-90s I would say the RAM was going bad. That you got a screen capture showing that is shocking

[popov]

yeah, its even worse as now my desktop is affected

What ive tried was lcd fontwizard but it didnt change anything. Also some programs like xchat are working properly. As I have tried many various puppy relases, I can say that like 20% of them were affected. I have 2GB DDR2 RAM, Dual Core Intel and integrated Intel vid card, afaik 82945. It could be related to refresh rate, but I don't know how to change it.

[Flash]

Popov, it's ok to start a separate thread for each question. The forum works better for everyone if you make each thread about just one topic.

[linuxcbon]

It seems to affect the same letters and exactly the same way for each.

[darkcity]

I agree with linuxcbon, it looks like the font is corrupt - have you tried changing to different font?

5) you can remove pre-installed packages. however on a frugal install they will be hidden unless you remaster. see-
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/HowToUninst ... o_Base_SFS

[popov]

Updates:

1. I have tried several fonts, including Microsoft ones, but it's always the same. I can almost assure that testing by testing documents in Abiword I concluded that problem always occurs.

But I have launched this OS on other computer with different video card(intel integrated here and nvidia there), and problem didn't occur. My guess is then - either driver or xorg settings.

2. This issue has been solved.

Added 8 and 9 in first post.

[starhawk]

Wary 5.5 and Racy 5.5 are known to have problems with nVIDIA cards. I'm not sure about Precise -- I thought I'd heard it was known not to have that particular issue, but I've been wrong before...

IIRC Slacko 5.5 is known not to have those problems.

My suggestion: try Slacko 5.5, or replace the nVIDIA-based card(s) with ATi/AMD-based cards. You could also go to another version of Puppy entirely -- there are a tremendous number of Puppies, and some are a better match to certain hardware, as opposed to others. Unlike Windows, where the latest and greatest is so for reasons of theoretical security (namely, it's the least insecure version yet -- note the wording there!), Puppy really has no such problems. People are still running 3xx and 4xx Puppies quite extensively, and one of our more popular Puppies for really old computers is based on the 2xx series. That's going back a ways!

[popov]

I have tried this USB sintallation on computer with intel and nv vid cards, nV worked fine without any tearing, screenshot comes from intel machine. I have updated first post.

[darkcity]

1) it would be useful to list the exact video cards that show the fonts incorrectly-

this information is available via
PuppyMenu > System > HardInfo

possibly under PCI Device
for example-

VGA compatible controller : Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller
Display controller : Intel Corporation 82915G Integrated

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6. Packages compatibility, I am not sure but am I able to use newest software versions that come as tar.gz/tar.bz2 without issues?

If you use the Puppy Package Manager the software should be fairly stable. Are you looking for anything in particular?

7. Java, if I will need it for certain websites, is there any secure way of doing this? I have searched through all precise packages and it seems that versions that are there are very outdated. Which one should I install?

the latest version Version 7 Update 17 has been package by Shinobar and TheZenKitteh as a SFS (use SFSLoad).
http://www.puppylinux.org/wikka/JavaRuntimeEnvironment

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BTW as Flash mentioned it is easier to have one question per thread. So please break out these questions to there own threads.

[popov]

I have found out that puppies based on kernel 2.6.x display everything properly. Not sure if it has anything to do with X or graphics driver. Also when asked about driver, I wanted to get details, ie producer version of driver.

[linuxcbon]

Can you give last 10 lines of dmesg ?
And results from

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cat  /var/log/Xorg.0.log  | grep EE

And

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cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep driver

I thought it was 1 topic per question ?

[popov]

# cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[ 61.431] (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
# cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep driver
Driver "intel" #card0driver

# dmesg
[ 27.286384] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19
[ 27.286445] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: irq 42 for MSI/MSI-X
[ 27.286475] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: setting latency timer to 64
[ 28.040468] atl2 0000:02:00.0: irq 43 for MSI/MSI-X
[ 30.072997] ip_tables: (C) 2000-2006 Netfilter Core Team
[ 30.097137] nf_conntrack version 0.5.0 (16384 buckets, 65536 max)
[ 40.278488] atl2 0000:02:00.0: irq 43 for MSI/MSI-X
[ 40.278593] atl2: eth0 NIC Link is Up<100 Mbps Full Duplex>
[ 40.305555] atl2 0000:02:00.0: irq 43 for MSI/MSI-X
[ 40.305669] atl2: eth0 NIC Link is Up<100 Mbps Full Duplex>

I will start new threads in some time, busy atm.

[sfeeley]

regarding the font tearing: this happens on my system if I have the volume slider bar showing. (and goes away if I close it). Just thought I'd suggest an easy possible fix.

good luck.

[linuxcbon]

popov can you edit your message, need only last 10 lines of dmesg.

[popov]

I have started new threads, so this one mainly functions just for first question.

[linuxcbon]

Can you edit your first message with only one question and also change title to one question ?
What gives

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lspci  | grep VGA

I read that many people have problems with display with intel graphics.
Some people advice this workaround in xorg.conf :

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Section "Device"
    Identifier "Intel"
    Driver "intel"
    Option "DebugWait" "true"
EndSection

[popov]

# lspci | grep VGA
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)

# X -version

X.Org X Server 1.11.3
Release Date: 2011-12-16
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.42-34-generic i686 Ubuntu
Current Operating System: Linux puppypc23110 3.2.29 #1 SMP Thu Sep 13 20:33:02 GMT-8 2012 i686
Kernel command line: video=640x480 initrd=/multiboot/precisepuppy/initrd.gz psubdir=/multiboot/precisepuppy psubok=TRUE BOOT_IMAGE=/multiboot/precisepuppy/vmlinuz
Build Date: 16 January 2013 11:05:18PM
xorg-server 2:1.11.4-0ubuntu10.11 (For technical support please see http://www.ubuntu.com/support)
Current version of pixman: 0.24.4
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.

# glxinfo | grep -i opengl
OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 945G x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 1.4 Mesa 8.0.4
OpenGL extensions:

# uname -r
3.2.29

Here is my full xorg.conf:

http://pastebin.com/1wvkyuaE

I am not sure where to put that config tweak you posted, as my file seems to use a bit different scheme. And yeah, I will remove all those other points too, just give me more time.

[popov]

Just for comparison with version that works properly, Puppy 5.28:

# lspci | grep VGA
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)

# X -version

X.Org X Server 1.7.6
Release Date: 2010-03-17
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.24-25-server i686 Ubuntu
Current Operating System: Linux mexlex33 2.6.33.2 #1 SMP Thu May 27 10:56:32 EST 2010 i686
Kernel command line: initrd=/multiboot/puppy/initrd.gz pmedia=usbflash BOOT_IMAGE=/multiboot/puppy/vmlinuz
Build Date: 23 April 2010 05:11:50PM
xorg-server 2:1.7.6-2ubuntu7 (Bryce Harrington <bryce@ubuntu.com>)
Current version of pixman: 0.16.4
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.

# glxinfo | grep -i opengl
OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 945G GEM 20091221 2009Q4 x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 1.4 Mesa 7.7.1
OpenGL extensions:

# uname -r
2.6.33.2

[popov]

Is it possible to downgrade drivers/xorg version in order to track the problem? I am still not sure if it's kernel or newer drivers that are associated with it. My current guesses are: kernel, intel driver, X.org.