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Many problems using, remastering Puppy 4.3.1
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Kogije

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Mar 2013, 18:16    Post subject: no  

PPM doesn't have 71.86.xx
only later versions which do not support my card
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linuxcbon

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Mar 2013, 18:31    Post subject:  

Can you answer the other questions : where did you get the driver ? Did you try the howto ?
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Kogije

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Mar 2013, 18:46    Post subject: Driver  

The Video Driver I found
NVIDIA-71.86.11-k2.6.30.5-1.pet
from http://www.revolutionvoice.com/dl.html

and it installed on Lucid Puppy 5.11 and hasn't complained
it also properly identified my card as a nvidia Riva TNT2
although,
I think the kernel in Lucid Puppy 5.11 is newer (something like 2.6.33.2)
I also found the same version NVIDIA-71.86.11 driver for Linux on the nvidia webpage, but didn't try it.

The How to
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=365818#365818
doesn't cover full installs
also
http://puppylinux.com/sources/
wants a login name and password to access the source files for the kernel
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linuxcbon

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Mar 2013, 19:11    Post subject:  

That link is not the howto I gave you ! Shocked
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Kogije

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Mar 2013, 19:31    Post subject: The how to  

The how to you gave me wants me to install a new driver.

The only other driver I found was from nvidia and it needs to be compiled

I now have
/Root/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-71.86.15-pkg1.run
/mnt/home/lupu_devx_511.sfs
/mnt/home/kernel_src-2.6.33.2-patched.sfs

but I'm not sure what to do from there

I think I'm suppose to remove my current nvidia driver then reboot and add those 2 files in home to the boot manager
then reboot again
not sure after that
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linuxcbon

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Mar 2013, 19:38    Post subject: Re: The how to  

No, don't compile, I didn't ask that. I cannot follow what you are doing, it goes in all directions. I let other people help you.
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Kogije

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Mar 2013, 19:39    Post subject: okay  

I'm not sure what else to do.
I only have the one Video Driver that is already compiled and it is already installed.

I just tried following the instructions for using getnividia and it complained about a missing glibc.
I tried installing it from a pet and it crashed the Puppy.

I re-installed but this time I went with a Frugal Install instead of a full install because of all the suggestions before on doing so.

I HATE working with the Frugal install.

I wouldn't mind so much if there was a reliable way to save what I did, however,
I just spent 5 hours letting it update the PPM database only to have to do it all over again because IT NEVER ASKED ME TO SAVE when I rebooted.
It just didn't give me the option.
Sometimes it saves automatically before I reboot/shutdown.
Sometimes it asks me to save before I reboot/shutdown.
And
Sometimes it never gives me an option to save when I reboot/shutdown.

Frugal seems to be a nightmare to work with.
However, it may be an Ideal format when I get this done. As long as I can MAKE THE SAVE FILE READ ONLY so it won't be changed.
OR
If I can make it RESTORE THE SAVE FILE from an alternate location.

I will work on that later.
For now it looks like I need help making this Video Driver compile.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=72405
Last time I used getnvidia-0.8.1.pet
Maybe I need to switch to an earlier version that might not have a glibc problem?
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green_dome

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Apr 2013, 13:09    Post subject:  

what glibc does the 'getnvidia' package complain about?
what is the glibc version of the puppy you are trying to compile a nvidia driver in?
Code:
ldd --version
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Kogije

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Apr 2013, 16:12    Post subject:  

It didn't say what glibc it wanted.

I'm checking right now what is on there... 2.11.1

I tried putting a newer one on before and it crashed.
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green_dome

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Apr 2013, 16:41    Post subject:  

Sounds like TNT cards will not work in Lupu.
link | link
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Kogije

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Apr 2013, 16:43    Post subject:  

I've seen stuff in Forums with Lupu 5.28 using them

Apparently getnvidia 7.0 will run on here, but, it wants my Pupsav file to be larger than 512 MB.

How do I make it bigger?

Okay, I figured it out, now it's 1 Gig.

I hear there is a limit of 1.8 Gig Sad This may be a problem later!
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green_dome

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Apr 2013, 18:30    Post subject:  

filesize limit on pupsave file?
I have a few pupsave files that are several gigabytes in size and I have not run into any apparent problems, though I am no expert.

link to discussion about pupave file size.
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Kogije

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Apr 2013, 18:33    Post subject:  

well, it tried building a driver, but it is downloading the wrong video driver from nvidia

It is trying to build a 310.40 Driver and I need a 71.86 Driver

also

there is a nvidia-glx-304.51.sfs file that I don't know what to do with ???

I have the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-71.86.15-pkg1.run that I need downloaded

I'm not sure what I need to do.

I think maybe I need to just compile my own driver without using getnvidia.
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green_dome

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Apr 2013, 23:46    Post subject:  

According to this post, it would be difficult to use 'getnvidia' to compile an older driver.

It would seem, when an older driver is needed, compiling your own may be the better way.
These instructions helped me to an extent. I do not have a Riva TNT card to test on.

'NVIDIA-Linux-x86-71.86.15-pkg1.run' does not appear to contain 'nvidia-xconfig'. I am not sure how much that may hinder installation.
Code:
NVIDIA-Linux-x86-71.86.15-pkg1.run --extract-only

[reference]
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Kogije

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Apr 2013, 00:22    Post subject:  

I'm not sure either, but it looks like you are on the same page I am...

I already had the files mentioned in those instructions and printed out the Instructions earlier starting at Step 4

Before I try compiling the Driver I'm going to restore my backup of the Frugal Install to what it was before I tried using getnvidia 0.7... I probably do not need to do this, however, I'm sure the Environment will be much cleaner if I do.

It's the unknown variables that have been killing me in getting everything installed properly...

Also,
On a Side Note...
When I did the Frugal Install I skipped running alsaconf
I just added my alsa.conf file that I had made before into /etc/modprobe.d/

Now when I run glxgears I get

260 frames in 5.0 seconds
260 frames in 5.0 seconds
257 frames in 5.0 seconds
260 frames in 5.0 seconds
262 frames in 5.0 seconds
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