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stifiling

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Mar 2013, 22:34    Post subject:  "Testing" Sensei & Sensei64
Subject description: Barebones-Full system w/pacman package manager PAE, non-PAE, & 64-bit
 

"Gone are the days of desperately searching through threads for your favorite app, just to find out it's only been compiled for Lucid Sad"

This system is based on ArchPup but is a derivative of AlphaOS-001. It uses Racy's 3.0.25 kernel. The non-PAE isos use Retroprecise's 3.2.32 kernel. non-PAE kernels tend to be 'faster' on machines w/less than 4GB of RAM.

The 64 bit Sensei64 is also based on ArchPup but is a derivative of FatDog64-521. It uses 64-bit 3.8.5 kernel.

This system is designed to grow (shrink) with you, as your skill level using GNU/Linux advances. You'll try different apps as time goes on, and have your own specific favorites...and prefer not to have two of the same things installed. When that becomes the case, you can simply delete the senapps.sfs file, and install only the apps 'you' want. Sensei gives you the freedom to truly remove any app you might not want, rather than just hiding/whiting out the files.

Thanks goes to BarryK, simargl, mavrothal, kirk, jamesbond to name a few.

The full iso includes:
Audacious Audio Player
SMPlayer Media Player
Frisbee Network Manager
Firefox Browser
Geany Text Editor
Galculator
Gparted Partition Editor
LXTask Task Manager
Pidgin Chat Client
Remmina Remote Desktop
Thunar File Manager
XFCE Terminal
Viewnior Image Viewer
Adobe Flash
Retrovol Mixer
XFCE Screenshooter
Freemem Tray Applet
Filemnt
Pup Volume Monitor
SFS Load


Sensei 001 Full:
senseifull-001.iso 241MB
md5sum=b39b93c88ca1f32bc5226c35059e45e8

senseifullnon-pae-001.iso 242MB
md5sum=9d3882ea2cb88f8b9de0c2e9f53588ec

dev-senfull_001.sfs 75MB (also install dev-senxfce w/pacman)
md5sum=4e42336c2e9ba126f0190a0d32627caa

locale-senfull_001.sfs 15MB (also install locale-senxfce w/pacman)
md5sum=70d5877235350b2794dd7db9da88567b


Sensei64 001 Full:
sensei64full-001.iso 276MB
md5sum=8797294c4baf2d1ca6c58e9c10297c74

dev-sen64full_001.sfs 77MB (also install dev-sen64xfce w/pacman)
md5sum=ec37c77ae0e92324f5039cd1c318bfc9

kernel_sources-3.8.5-.sfs 105MB
md5sum=478ae435c0ab66f466230b029b46da39








Sensei LXDE Desktop:
sendesk-lxde_001.sfs 35MB
md5sum=fe566c006f0631541023897d31ea9e9d





Sensei64 Razor-qt Desktop:
sendesk64-razorqt_001.sfs 95MB
md5sum=d3a37e74fc118d2cdb910dbc3e458e4d





If you've downloaded the full iso, the barebones iso is not necessary. The exact same "sensei_001.sfs" file is on both isos.

The barebones isos are so clean/barebones that you need to know your way around somewhat, using them, to get your Linux Box set up 'exactly' the way 'you' want it.


Sensei 001 Barebones:
senseibarebones-001.iso 63MB
md5sum=b9af069a1323fc0c8dd000e2df00baab

senseibarebonesnon-pae-001.iso 64MB
md5sum=19448749092788471cd4ba2a8b388e3f


Sensei64 001 Barebones:
sensei64barebones-001.iso 76MB
md5sum=910f287e02d3e8a945f46027a426ec38


Urban Terror on Sensei


PacmanExpress Package Manager/Guake Dropdown Terminal on Sensei64


Cinnamon Desktop/Mixxx DJ Mixing Player on Sensei64


Pulseaudio/Blueman Bluetooth/Geary Mail on Sensei64



Barebones default instructions
Sensei Bugs fixed/changes
Sensei64 Bugs fixed/changes


Any suggestions, bugs, file conflicts, etc. Please let me know.

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PostPosted: Sun 31 Mar 2013, 06:26    Post subject:  

Great stuff, looking forward to testing this Cool
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stifiling

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Apr 2013, 03:56    Post subject:  

darkcity wrote:
Great stuff, looking forward to testing this Cool


thanks darkcity. still working on a cpl issues i came across as well as putting together an apps.sfs, with the goal of making it more user/newb friendly.
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PostPosted: Tue 02 Apr 2013, 07:24    Post subject:  

i fixed the issues that i came across with the barebones iso, and also uploaded a full iso w/the xfcedesktop.sfs and also an apps.sfs.

This should make it easier on newer/intermediate users, who are interested in an Arch/Puppy system that includes pacman.
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PostPosted: Tue 02 Apr 2013, 08:41    Post subject:  

Hi stifiling

Sorry for my ignorance, what does cpl stand for?

Has the barebones ISO been updated?

I'm going to try an make a Puppy-like version with JWM etc. but with the Pacman function.

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Apr 2013, 09:06    Post subject:  

darkcity wrote:
Hi stifiling

Sorry for my ignorance, what does cpl stand for?

Has the barebones ISO been updated?

I'm going to try an make a Puppy-like version with JWM etc. but with the Pacman function.

Twisted Evil


cpl=couple

yes...the issues that i had identified with the barebones iso...i repaired. if you happen to come across any others while constructing the JWM version...please let me know.
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PostPosted: Tue 02 Apr 2013, 21:23    Post subject:  

The firmware for the b43 wireless is not the correct firmware in the ISOs. I've fixed that and will re-upload.
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PostPosted: Wed 03 Apr 2013, 00:26    Post subject: Sesei Linux
Subject description: Desktop
 

After booting, it goes to command prompt. How to get normal desktop. My installation is Sensei full.
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PostPosted: Wed 03 Apr 2013, 01:37    Post subject: Re: Sesei Linux
Subject description: Desktop
 

rameshiyer wrote:
After booting, it goes to command prompt. How to get normal desktop. My installation is Sensei full.


try the command:

Code:
startx


and let's see if we can identify where the error may be.

when the installation is booting....do you see
"senapps sendesk" as having being found and loaded?

if you don't see senapps sendesk...then the adrive and ydrive with xorg and the gui apps didn't load. if you downloaded one of the previous iso's and are using the previous initrd.gz....replace that file with the current one.
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PostPosted: Wed 03 Apr 2013, 02:37    Post subject: Sensei Linux
Subject description: Normal desktop
 

I am using latest ISO file. Anyway I will try with startx.

Update : I got the desktop after entering "startx" in command prompt. However, mouse is not working. I will check once again.
Also "senapps sendesk" not loading while booting.
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PostPosted: Wed 03 Apr 2013, 09:34    Post subject: Sensei
Subject description: Testing
 

I am happy to inform you that in my home computer, Sensei is directly going to Desktop. thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed 03 Apr 2013, 14:03    Post subject: Re: Sensei
Subject description: Testing
 

rameshiyer wrote:
I am happy to inform you that in my home computer, Sensei is directly going to Desktop. thanks.


Thanks for the update. No luck on the machine you were using yesterday?

I uploaded another iso last night. If you can test it on the machine that it's not working correctly on, let's see if it works now...
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PostPosted: Thu 04 Apr 2013, 10:38    Post subject: Save File creation
Subject description: Menu option
 

I unable to create savefile in Sensei. Please provide option to create savefile automatically as done in original puppy. If not possible, give an option in Menu entry as done in Alphaos. Creating save file through command prompt is difficult, as it require some good knowledge in Linux.
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PostPosted: Thu 04 Apr 2013, 10:47    Post subject: Re: Save File creation
Subject description: Menu option
 

rameshiyer wrote:
I unable to create savefile in Sensei. Please provide option to create savefile automatically as done in original puppy. If not possible, give an option in Menu entry as done in Alphaos. Creating save file through command prompt is difficult, as it require some good knowledge in Linux.


I couldn't agree more. I'll see if i can figure out how it was done in ArchPup and implement the same solution.
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PostPosted: Thu 04 Apr 2013, 11:01    Post subject:  

Looking at this code and admitting me know almost nothing
then I come to think on changing the figures?

dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/home/senseisave.3fs bs=1k count=1000000
mkfs.ext3 -q -m 0 -F /mnt/home/senseisave.3fs

if one change the count=1000000 to count=500000
then it should be 500MB and if changed to count=25000
then only 250MB?

Another thing to consider? Where to place it. If one place it on
of=/mnt/home/senseisave.3fs then in frugal booting of many other
puppies them see that save file there in home so would it not be better
to have it here of=/mnt/home/sensei/senseisave.3fs
inside a Dir dedicated to Sensei?

Another typical me thing. I don't dare to do dd

Can I not use an AlphaOS-001 savefile made byAlphaOS-001
and empty it and then Sensei fill it with it's own things?

Unless it is difficult to empty it? To move a copy of an old
savefile is much more safe than doing dd this way?

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