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gcmartin

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Apr 2013, 17:26    Post subject:  Linux 3.9 Kernel changes - discussion  

Linux seminars/conference, April 15-17
Jon Corbet Mulls Linux Kernel Changes

here to help

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anikin

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Apr 2013, 19:32    Post subject:  

gcmartin,

Please, keep us updated on how the event goes.

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7th Annual Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit

April 15-17, 2013 · Parc 55 Hotel (San Francisco, CA)

The Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit is an exclusive, invitation-only summit gathering core kernel developers, distribution maintainers, ISVs, end users, system vendors and other community organizations for plenary sessions and workgroup meetings to meet face-to-face to tackle and solve the most pressing issues facing Linux today.
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PostPosted: Tue 02 Apr 2013, 17:01    Post subject: Re: Linux 3.9 Kernel changes  

gcmartin wrote:
Linux seminars/conference, April 15-17
Jon Corbet Mulls Linux Kernel Changes

here to help


Are you going?

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amigo

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Apr 2013, 04:38    Post subject:  

gcmartin, your OP says: "here to help", so one is led to assume that know something about kernels -enough so to be interested in the Collaboration Summit which the linked article refers to. So, asking whether you are going to attend the summit is a fair question. You say you want to help, so be helpful -what did *you* find most interesting in the article?

I think that this bit: "true multiplatform ARM kernels" is nice news. Should I explain what that means?
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PostPosted: Wed 03 Apr 2013, 07:24    Post subject: Re: Linux 3.9 Kernel changes  

gcmartin, I don't see why you need to get so worked out by this.

Looking at the question:
Q5sys wrote:
Are you going?

I cannot but help thinking that it is a genuine question, as anikin pointed out, it is "by invitiation-only" - you may be or may not be on of the invitees.

If you are going, then we all hope you can share your experience there for the rest of us who can't attend, and perhaps tell us some of the juicy details we don't hear from the usual channels (lwn.net etc).

If you are not going, then that's all right too - nobody says that you have to be there for this thread to be informative.

In any case, thanks for sharing the link.

EDIT: grammar.

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Apr 2013, 17:44    Post subject:  

Just a biker. Not a kernel expert. I won't be going to northern California
either. But I am a Linux Foundation Member.

Here is a older meesage from them to me back in 2010



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The Linux Foundation is pleased to offer live video streaming from The Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit on Wednesday, April 14th from 9:00 am until 5:30 pm. Thank you for registering.

To access the live video stream on Wednesday, April 14th:

Go to http://events.linuxfoundation.org
Login using your Linux Foundation account
Click "My Account"
Click "My Media"
Select the corresponding video stream from the list
Keynotes will begin promptly at 9am. To view a list of the keynotes, and times they are speaking, click here.


It is easy enough for anyone to join the Linux Foundation.
Shoot. They let this uneducated outlaw tattoed linux using biker from
the west Texas deserts become a member. Smarter guys than me
are the ones that asked me to join.

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Thank you for registering at Linux Foundation Events.


http://www.linuxfoundation.org/events

Just use the register link on the upper right hand corner of page next to
the login link. If they stream the event. You will be able to watch it as
a event member. It is free by the way. I paid nothing to register and sign
up for just that vs a corporate type or individual membership which can be costly for us poor boy types. Example below.

https://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/join/individual

Just posting the info. Edit:

Use this link to register and get emails and videos of event.

http://events.linuxfoundation.org/

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Stay Informed About Linux Events

Get the latest news on Linux Events every month by subscribing to the Linux events newsletter.
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jpeps

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PostPosted: Fri 05 Apr 2013, 04:41    Post subject:  

cthisbear wrote:

What we do is despite all our differences, experience level,
life lessons....is that we just can't help giving out advice,
news, opinions...etc
because Puppy has gotten under our skin.

Scratch as we might....it's hard to shake it off.


Actually, it's not a bad deal. If you can find just 10 people in the community that contribute as much as yourself, that means you get back 10X what you contribute.

It's interesting to note how mainstream linux development, android, ARM architecture, etc., are joining forces.
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amigo

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Apr 2013, 03:07    Post subject:  

Perhaps it would be nicer if this thread got back on topic:
"true multiplatform ARM kernels"

So, up till now, distributing a distro for any ARM architecture has been particularly tricky because each motherboard/CPU combination needed its' own kernel. All the userspace stuff(everything except the kernel) is compatible across multiple hardware combinations, as long as they are for the same ARM version, e.g ARMv11, etc.
Now, with multi-platform kernels a single installer or flashable image wil be able to run on multiple motherboard/CPU combinations -making it much more feasable to distribute them. Before, one had to create a separate image/installer for each hardware combination you wanted to support -with only the kernel being different. Now, one should, in theory, be able to have a single image which could be flashed/installed to a rasberry Pi and a beagle board, for instance.
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PostPosted: Sat 06 Apr 2013, 03:29    Post subject:  

raffy wrote:
@gcmartin, no offense intended, but let's try to stick to information sharing. You've linked to an important article, and that's it. If you dislike subsequent posts (or posters), am sure you can keep your cool and do more interesting things like hike around or buy some ice cream.

+1 my thoughts exactly.
+2 me too.

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Apr 2013, 04:09    Post subject:  

re: Supporting multi-platform ARM kernels

By Jonathan Corbet
May 9, 2012 :

"The diversity of the ARM architecture is one of its great strengths: manufacturers have been able to create a wide range of interesting system-on-chip devices around the common ARM processor core. But this diversity, combined with a general lack of hardware discoverability, makes ARM systems hard to support in the kernel. As things stand now, a special kernel must be built for any specific ARM system. With most other architectures, it is possible to support most or all systems with a single binary kernel (or maybe two for 32-bit and 64-bit configurations). In the ARM realm, there is no single binary kernel that can run everywhere. Work is being done to improve that situation, but some interesting decisions will have to be made on the way."



http://lwn.net/Articles/496400/
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gcmartin

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Apr 2013, 16:11    Post subject:  

Flash Smile

The seminar topics schedule is posted online.

I am not a sponsor, nor do I work for them. This post is informational ONLY. The schedule is color-coded on days 2 and 3 to distinguish Tracks for developers ease.

+Thanks @Jpeps @Ray_MK, @Amigo, @Jamesbond, and others.
+1
+2
etc.

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