Failed Frugal install Slacko on USBFlash

A home for all kinds of Puppy related projects
Post Reply
Message
Author
vanchutr
Posts: 438
Joined: Sat 05 Aug 2006, 12:04

Failed Frugal install Slacko on USBFlash

#1 Post by vanchutr »

Does anyone boot up successfully "slacko" (frugal installed) on USB Flash?

This is my menu.lst

Code: Select all

title SLACKO (usb/slacko)
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /slacko/initrd.gz
  kernel /slacko/vmlinuz   psubdir=slacko pmedia=usbflash pfix=fsck
  initrd /slacko/initrd.gz
Error message "... Can not find puppy_spup_311.37.sfs ...."

User avatar
bigpup
Posts: 13886
Joined: Sun 11 Oct 2009, 18:15
Location: S.C. USA

Re: Failed Frugal install Slacko on USBFlash

#2 Post by bigpup »

vanchutr wrote:Does anyone boot up successfully "slacko" (frugal installed) on USB Flash?

This is my menu.lst

Code: Select all

title SLACKO (usb/slacko)
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /slacko/initrd.gz
  kernel /slacko/vmlinuz  psubdir=slacko pmedia=usbflash pfix=fsck
  initrd /slacko/initrd.gz
Error message "... Can not find puppy_spup_311.37.sfs ...."
kernel /slacko/vmlinuz psubdir=slacko pmedia=usbflash pfix=fsck
Flip the location of the entries in red so it looks like:.
kernel /slacko/vmlinuz pmedia=usbflash psubdir=slacko pfix=fsck
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
YaPI(any iso installer)

vanchutr
Posts: 438
Joined: Sat 05 Aug 2006, 12:04

#3 Post by vanchutr »

Thank you Bigpup.
Flipped two options but no success. I met same error:

Code: Select all

...
Searching ... puppy_spup_311.37.sfs not found Dropping out to initial-ramdisk console
...
In same menu, with luci_266, I can boot up and LUCI 266 runs no pains

*** This error comes on in frugal installation on USB-Flash (only)

User avatar
rcrsn51
Posts: 13096
Joined: Tue 05 Sep 2006, 13:50
Location: Stratford, Ontario

#4 Post by rcrsn51 »

How do you have the flash drive formatted - FAT16 or FAT32? I wonder if it has something to do with the extra-long name of the sfs file.

vanchutr
Posts: 438
Joined: Sat 05 Aug 2006, 12:04

#5 Post by vanchutr »

To rcrsn51
I'd formatted my USB Flash in EXT3. I boot (good) it in many other distro (icepup 015, snow 020, midnight 003, popular 003, Puppy 432, luci 566). But I can not boot it with slacko (only slacko!)
Thank you, your reading

User avatar
enhu
Posts: 302
Joined: Wed 27 May 2009, 02:13
Contact:

#6 Post by enhu »

have you tried the simplest params like this

kernel /slack/vmlinuz root=/dev/sdb1 ro vga=normal
initrd /slack/initrd.gz

vanchutr
Posts: 438
Joined: Sat 05 Aug 2006, 12:04

#7 Post by vanchutr »

To Enhu
Still got same error
TK
(** Boot from USB Flash - My Comp has no HDD**)

User avatar
rcrsn51
Posts: 13096
Joined: Tue 05 Sep 2006, 13:50
Location: Stratford, Ontario

#8 Post by rcrsn51 »

vanchutr wrote:(** Boot from USB Flash - My Comp has no HDD**)
It would have been nice to mention that in your first post. Apparently, slacko has been built with the woof version that has the no-hard-drive-flash-drive boot bug.

There are discussions about this in the recent Luci threads.

User avatar
rhadon
Posts: 1292
Joined: Thu 27 Mar 2008, 11:05
Location: Germany

#9 Post by rhadon »

From the first post of Slacko 311.37 110717:
01micko wrote:If you can't boot try instead of "pmedia=usbflash" using "pmedia=sdb1" (or if you have more drives/partitions bump the letter from 'b' to 'c' or 'd' or whatever suits your system).
Have you tried?

Rolf
Ich verwende "frugal", und das ist gut so. :wink:
Raspberry Pi without Puppy? No, thanks.

User avatar
01micko
Posts: 8741
Joined: Sat 11 Oct 2008, 13:39
Location: qld
Contact:

#10 Post by 01micko »

rhadon wrote:From the first post of Slacko 311.37 110717:
01micko wrote:If you can't boot try instead of "pmedia=usbflash" using "pmedia=sdb1" (or if you have more drives/partitions bump the letter from 'b' to 'c' or 'd' or whatever suits your system).
Have you tried?

Rolf
Actually that was for the previous version, 310.37. My fault for not updating info :oops: .
Slacko is always built from the latest woof at the time, the no hard drive bug is supposed to be solved, though I haven't tested with latest slacko. On the 'todo' list.
Puppy Linux Blog - contact me for access

vanchutr
Posts: 438
Joined: Sat 05 Aug 2006, 12:04

#11 Post by vanchutr »

To 01micko. Thank you

01micko wrote:

Code: Select all

If you can't boot try instead of "pmedia=usbflash" using "pmedia=sdb1" (or if you have more drives/partitions bump the letter from 'b' to 'c' or 'd' or whatever suits your system). 
SLACKO 311.17 boot with this entry:

Code: Select all

title SLACKO2 (usb/slacko)  
kernel /slacko/vmlinuz pmedia=sdb psubdir=slacko
initrd /slacko/initrd.gz
I'd used option "pmedia=sdb" - (not pmedia=sdb1). And I'd solved my "noob"
Thank you again.

SLACKO run fast
I can connect to internet with 3GUSB modem (Huawei) with SLACKO
sound works automatically (on my comp.) - no need to config...
Install SCIM method input - Success
Easy to use SLACKO
Thank to all developpers and 01micko

User avatar
rcrsn51
Posts: 13096
Joined: Tue 05 Sep 2006, 13:50
Location: Stratford, Ontario

#12 Post by rcrsn51 »

@vanchutr: Try leaving out all the options and just make the line

Code: Select all

kernel /slacko/vmlinuz 
I suspect that this will work just as well. Then try

Code: Select all

kernel /slacko/vmlinuz pmedia=vanchutr psubdir=slacko

vanchutr
Posts: 438
Joined: Sat 05 Aug 2006, 12:04

#13 Post by vanchutr »

To Rcrsn51

rcrsn51 wrote

Code: Select all

@vanchutr: Try leaving out all the options and just make the line
Code:
kernel /slacko/vmlinuz

I suspect that this will work just as well. Then try
Code:
kernel /slacko/vmlinuz pmedia=vanchutr psubdir=slacko
It works with my frugal instal.. (on USB Flash)
But how is that? A magic code? extra stuff? A bug of Grub4Dos? Because I'd installed USB boot code from Grub4Dos 1.7 (shinobar)?

I'd tested with other entry:

Code: Select all

title SLACKO2 (usb/slacko)  
kernel /slacko/vmlinuz pmedia=ababa psubdir=slacko  
initrd /slacko/initrd.gz
That works also (pmedia=ababa)!!! :lol:

Any comments?
Thank you, Rcrsn51

User avatar
rcrsn51
Posts: 13096
Joined: Tue 05 Sep 2006, 13:50
Location: Stratford, Ontario

#14 Post by rcrsn51 »

The "pmedia" argument is only designed to take values like "usbflash" or "atahd". Any other values, like "sdb" or "vanchutr", are ignored and Puppy starts searching your drives for the sfs file. Did you see the word "pausing" in red?

Apparently, new kernels need extra time on some machines for USB devices to be initialized. Making Puppy hunt around for the sfs file allows that to happen.

vanchutr
Posts: 438
Joined: Sat 05 Aug 2006, 12:04

#15 Post by vanchutr »

Thank you rcrsn51
Problem was solved --
No--no--no-- I'm wrong
Can boot slacko with USB-Flash if my system with hard disk. Other while, without hard disk I can't boot

RJARRRPCGP
Posts: 97
Joined: Tue 09 Dec 2008, 06:10
Location: USA (Springfield, Vermont)

Re: Failed Frugal install Slacko on USBFlash

#16 Post by RJARRRPCGP »

vanchutr wrote:
Error message "... Can not find puppy_spup_311.37.sfs ...."
Are you using a 2008 or later board?

This is known to occur with the Asus P5QL Pro board when using the Marvell 88SExxxxxx PATA controller for the optical drive. Puppy's kernel obviously don't like Marvell 88SExxxxxx.

I dunno why it barfs with the Marvell controller, because Ubuntu and SliTaz are fine.

And I dunno about USB. I can't recall having a problem with USB.

Your Slacko problem is even more strange!

ahoppin
Posts: 172
Joined: Mon 16 May 2011, 04:13

#17 Post by ahoppin »

I recently made up a usb thumb drive with Lupu 525, Lupu 528, and Precise 550, using grub4dos to select the OS. All boot fine on my Thinkpad T43, but Precise (only) wouldn't boot on my Asus M4A79T Deluxe. The symptom is exactly as described in this thread.

The workaround mentioned here - deleting the "pmedia=usbflash" from the menu.lst file - does make it boot. I can hear the disks thrashing for several seconds before Precise finds itself. However, I would think that there should be a better and more portable way to kill some time for the usb drive to wake up.

Post Reply