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QuickLocaleSwitcher for people who have more than 1 langpack
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L18L

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Apr 2013, 14:58    Post subject:  QuickLocaleSwitcher for people who have more than 1 langpack
Subject description: HOWTO make your langpack to NOT overwrite other languages		  
If you have more than just English then his is for you.

If you have exactly one locale (and its langpack) other than English then this is for you.

If you have several locales (and their langpacks) other than English then this is for you.

What is different from original Puppy?
When you change locale in Puppy then you must restart X: and all apps are away.
This new switcher is just restarting JWM and rox.
All utils and apps launched from desktop icon or from menu run in the new locale.

QuickLocaleSwitcher is in /usr/bin and desktop menu.

Translatable by momanger. -NLS.pet would follow if some translations were posted here. Wink

[edit] Note,
GUI improved:
2 and more foreign languages: there are choices
1 foreign language: toggles languages without interaction
0 foreign language: see screenshot
[/edit]

Have fun Very Happy

[edit]The emphasize ist not at "Quick" but at "change without restart of X"[/edit]

[edit]Version 0.4 improved
check for dependencies
some bugs fixed
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Bert


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PostPosted: Sun 14 Apr 2013, 15:29    Post subject:  
This looks like a brilliant piece of work again, L18L!

I don't pretend to completely understand how it does what it does, but I've never seen anything lke it before...congrats!

Anyway, while I'm drinking a very good coffee and enjoying my first kernel panic ever -while translating with momanager-, I can only feel grateful for guys like you...

Is it correct to say this is "on-the-fly 're-localisation'", without losing the active apps?Or do you mean all apps traditionally default in Puppy are instantly available in the new language?

My innocent first impression is, this could be a great tool for translators too. I will ask The Little Grey Cells why this would be so Wink

Thanks for this exciting development!.
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PostPosted: Sun 14 Apr 2013, 19:32    Post subject:  
Cool Cool
I'd like to learn German, Japanese, Chinese, and Korean.
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Apr 2013, 04:17    Post subject: learning German
Subject description: babbel.com		  
vicmz wrote:
Cool Cool
I'd like to learn German, ...


Nivel principiante Question
http://lp.babbel.com/d/SPA_tutorial.html?l1=SPA&l2=DEU&autostart=beginner&ch=ORG Idea

[edit] returning now from 1st lesson of learning Dutch for Espanols Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Apr 2013, 05:30    Post subject: QuickLocaleSwitcher
Subject description: what and how		  
Thanks for the nice words, Bert.
Bert wrote:
I don't pretend to completely understand how it does what it does, but I've never seen anything lke it before...congrats!
How it does what it does
In Puppy you seem to have chosen activation of locale nl_NL
default is en_US, English is always there because English messages are used by the coders.
If you have no other locale there would be no GUI, the locale would just toggle to en_US or back to nl_NL.
But I hope that you have installed German langpack_de and chosen locale de_** once.
Then i.e. if you have more than 2 locales you have the GUI showed in 1st post.
It uses default fixmenus (a bit tuned for speed) and default fixdesk.
If you start it from command line (copy Code to a console anpress ENTER)
Code:
QuickLocaleSwitch
then you will see how many ( Question ) seconds it needs for what it does. Chosen new locale is updated in file /etc/profile.

Bert wrote:
Is it correct to say this is "on-the-fly 're-localisation'", without losing the active apps?
Or do you mean all apps traditionally default in Puppy are instantly available in the new language?

It is "on-the-fly 're-localisation'", without losing the active apps
but only for the dault apps which are listed if you run:
Code:
ls /usr/local/bin/default*

I have changed their code for example for defaultcalendar from
Code:
#!/bin/sh
osmo $@

to
Code:
#!/bin/sh
eval `grep '^LANG=' /etc/profile`
osmo $@

that is inserted 1 line wich is taking locale from (actualized) /etc/profile
Now you should be able to
start "plan" from desktop icon
switch locale
start "plan" from desktop icon in the new language
If you cannot then please report. version is just 0.1 Wink

Other apps stay with the old locale because they all are running under xwin. And restarting xwin would kill all apps.

But if you start from console (which is a defaultapp) then it is in new locale. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue 16 Apr 2013, 17:32    Post subject:  
Another Chinese lessons link with lots of downloads, recommended if you seriously plan to learn:

http://ocw.mit.edu/resources/res-21f-003-learning-chinese-a-foundation-course-in-mandarin-spring-2011/online-textbook/part-i-introduction-units-1-4-character-lessons-1-3/
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PostPosted: Thu 18 Apr 2013, 14:29    Post subject:  
fixmenus looks good !

Will test it later cos i have LANG out of /etc/profile cos I am still experimenting on not to call /etc/profile from .bashrc all of the time .

Heres another snapshot of a chooselocale experiment of mine :
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PostPosted: Thu 18 Apr 2013, 18:09    Post subject:  
First test in my messed up frugal Macpup529 works. Have en_US and de_DE (.URGS-EIGHT) and it switches kinda fine ( jwm ) .
I need some time to detect thingys .
Am missing the gui to choose another locale as the pic shows in your first post .

Cheers !
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PostPosted: Thu 18 Apr 2013, 19:08    Post subject:  
Got it, when only two languages then comes no gui . gui missing ut8 or not utf8 mentioning .
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PostPosted: Fri 19 Apr 2013, 12:46    Post subject: QuickLocaleSwitcher
Subject description: utf8		  
Karl Godt wrote:
... gui missing ut8 or not utf8 mentioning .

That was intented to not confuse noobees.
Look into the script: there is a tail -n1 which would guarantee a result of utf8
What I really want is: just change language. (QuickLanguageSwitcher)

Example: Danish in north Schleswig-Holstein (that they exist we do know since last votes)
What is their locale?
da_DE or da_DK

They would have usage of switch from da to de and back....
But it is really just the language (LC_MESSAGES for GNU software)

fixdesk is without changes now. Quick enough.
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PostPosted: Fri 19 Apr 2013, 13:55    Post subject:  
Karl Godt wrote:
...Heres another snapshot of a chooselocale experiment of mine :

I find these long lists very annoying (and difficult to select th right one sometimes)
Easier for the user would be 1- choose language
then 1 country out of some countries.

Very interesting that you are experimenting too!
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PostPosted: Fri 19 Apr 2013, 15:37    Post subject:  
That code is much faster than the original chooselocale formatting loop and contains more info . Not a Nooby and dont want offered a head -n1 -> iso-8859-1 if i want iso-8859-2 if i would be a Tchechoslowakian .
Code:

#!/bin/sh
# Karl Reimer Godt April 2013

Version=1.00
start_dir="$PWD"
tmpDir=/tmp/locale
mkdir -p $tmpDir/log
[ "$start_dir" ] || start_dir=$tmpDir

for i in $(ls -1 /usr/share/i18n/locales) ; do
AVAIL_LANGS="$AVAIL_LANGS
${i}| `grep -m1 '^title' /usr/share/i18n/locales/$i |sed 's%^title[[:blank:]]*%%'`"
done

echo "$AVAIL_LANGS" | grep -viE 'posix|translit|i18n|iso|^$' >/tmp/AVAIL_LANGS.lst

export ChooseLocaleMainWindow="
<window title=\"chooselocale\">
<vbox>
 <hbox>
  <text><label>Select the language</label></text>
 </hbox>
 <hbox>
  <frame Language>
   <table>
   <label>Available Languages in i18n locales | Description</label>
   <variable>MY_LANG</variable>
   <input>cat /tmp/AVAIL_LANGS.lst</input>
   <action>echo \$MY_LANG >/tmp/LANG_sel</action>
   <width>700</width><height>180</height>
   </table>
  </frame>
 </hbox>

<hbox>
<text><label>Select the char map</label></text>
</hbox>

<hbox>
<frame Charmap>
   <table>
   <label>Available Character Maps in i18n charmaps</label>
   <variable>MY_MAP</variable>
   <input>ls -1 /usr/share/i18n/charmaps</input>
   <action>echo $MY_MAP >/tmp/MAP_sel</action>
   <width>700</width><height>180</height>
   </table>
</frame>
</hbox>
<hbox>
 <button ok></button>
 <button cancel></button>
</hbox>
</vbox>
</window>
"

eval `gtkdialog --program=ChooseLocaleMainWindow`
#: MY_LANG="de_DE"
#: MY_MAP="IBM1132.gz"
#: EXIT="OK"

[ "$EXIT" = OK ] || exit 0
   [ "$MY_MAP" ] || exit 0
  [ "$MY_LANG" ] || exit 0

MAP=`echo "$MY_MAP" | sed 's%\..*$%%'`
echo "MAP=$MAP'"
echo "MY_LANG=$MY_LANG'"

localedef --no-archive -f $MAP -i $MY_LANG "${MY_LANG}.${MAP}" > $tmpDir/log/${MAP}.${MY_LANG}.log 2>&1
           RV=$?
echo "Return Value of localedef is < $RV >"

if [ "$RV" != 0 ] ; then
echo "$MY_LANG $MAP" >> /usr/share/i18n/UNSUPPORTED
ERROR_MSG=`tail -n 10 $tmpDir/log/"${MAP}.${MY_LANG}.log"`
xmessage -bg red "Failed to create correct Language

$ERROR_MSG"

cd /usr/lib/locale/
rmdir ${MY_LANG}*
cd "$start_dir"
exec $0

fi

grep "$MY_LANG" /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED | grep "$MAP" || echo "$MY_LANG $MAP" >> /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED

sed -i "s%^LANG=.*%LANG=${MY_LANG}\.${MAP}%" /etc/profile
[ $? = 0 ] || { xmessage -gb red "Sorry, probably /etc/profile corrupt."; exit 1; }

Xdialog --left --wrap --title "Glibc Locale setup" --ok-label "Restart X now" --cancel-label "Finished"  --yesno "Ok, the change has been made and will take effect at next boot. However, if you click the 'Restart X now' button X will exit then restart and the new locale will immediately take effect -- however make sure that all other applications are closed first as restarting X will rudely kill them! Otherwise, just click 'Finished' for the new locale to take effect at next boot.\n\nTechnical details:\nLocale files have been generated in /usr/lib/locale (if not already) and LANG variable set to ${MY_LANG}.${MAP} in /etc/profile." 0 100
 if [ $? -eq 0 ];then
  rm -rf /tmp/.X0-lock
  sync
  exec restartwm $CURRENTWM
 fi
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PostPosted: Sat 20 Apr 2013, 07:36    Post subject: chooselocale
Subject description: Version 1.01		  
Karl Godt wrote:
.. Not a Nooby and dont want offered a head -n1 -> iso-8859-1 if i want iso-8859-2 if i would be a Tchechoslowakian .

All right
..and i think utf8 is enogh for the rest of the century
Here is my contribution (playing version with endless loop):
Code:
#!/bin/sh
# Karl Reimer Godt April 2013
# L18L without @euro and just UTF-8 and locales for 1 language

Version=1.01
start_dir="$PWD"
tmpDir=/tmp/locale
mkdir -p $tmpDir/log
[ "$start_dir" ] || start_dir=$tmpDir

for i in $(ls -1 /usr/share/i18n/locales) ; do
AVAIL_LANGS="$AVAIL_LANGS
${i}| `grep -m1 '^title' /usr/share/i18n/locales/$i |sed 's%^title[[:blank:]]*%%'`"
done
echo "$AVAIL_LANGS" | grep -viE 'posix|translit|i18n|iso|eur|^$' >/tmp/AVAIL_LANGS.lst

[ -f /tmp/AVAIL_LANGUAGES.lst ] || cat /tmp/AVAIL_LANGS.lst | cut -d' ' -f2| cut -d'"' -f2 | sort -u >/tmp/AVAIL_LANGUAGES.lst

while true; do # endless loop

MY_LANGUAGE=`cat /tmp/LANGUAGE_sel 2>/dev/null` || MY_LANGUAGE=`grep -m1 '^language' /usr/share/i18n/locales/${LANG%.*} | cut -d'"' -f2`


export ChooseLocaleMainWindow="
<window title=\"chooselocale $Version\">
<vbox>

 <hbox>
  <text><label>Select the language</label></text>
 </hbox>
 <hbox>
  <frame Language>
   <table>
   <label>Available Languages in i18n locales Description</label>
   <variable>MY_LANGUAGE</variable>
   <input>echo $MY_LANGUAGE; cat /tmp/AVAIL_LANGUAGES.lst</input>
   <action>echo \$MY_LANGUAGE >/tmp/LANGUAGE_sel</action>
   <width>700</width><height>135</height>
   </table>
  </frame>
 </hbox>

 <hbox>
  <text><label>Select the locale</label></text>
 </hbox>
 <hbox>
  <frame Locale>
   <table>
   <label>Available for $MY_LANGUAGE | Description</label>
   <variable>MY_LANG</variable>
   <input>cat /tmp/AVAIL_LANGS.lst | grep $MY_LANGUAGE</input>
   <action>echo \$MY_LANG >/tmp/LANG_sel</action>
   <width>700</width><height>220</height>
   </table>
  </frame>
 </hbox>

<hbox>
<text><label>Select the char map</label></text>
</hbox>

<hbox>
<frame Charmap>
   <table>
   <label>Should not One and only Character Map be enough for this World?</label>
   <variable>MY_MAP</variable>
   <input>echo UTF-8.gz</input>
   <action>echo $MY_MAP >/tmp/MAP_sel</action>
   <width>700</width><height>60</height>
   </table>
</frame>
</hbox>
<hbox>
 <button ok></button>
 <button cancel></button>
</hbox>
</vbox>
</window>
"

eval `gtkdialog --program=ChooseLocaleMainWindow`
#: MY_LANG="de_DE"
#: MY_MAP="IBM1132.gz"
#: EXIT="OK"

[ "$EXIT" = OK ] || continue
   [ "$MY_MAP" ] || continue
  [ "$MY_LANG" ] || continue

MAP=`echo "$MY_MAP" | sed 's%\..*$%%'`
echo "MAP=$MAP'"
echo "MY_LANG=$MY_LANG'"

localedef --no-archive -f $MAP -i $MY_LANG "${MY_LANG}.${MAP}" > $tmpDir/log/${MAP}.${MY_LANG}.log 2>&1
           RV=$?
echo "Return Value of localedef is < $RV >"

if [ "$RV" != 0 ] ; then
echo "$MY_LANG $MAP" >> /usr/share/i18n/UNSUPPORTED
ERROR_MSG=`tail -n 10 $tmpDir/log/"${MAP}.${MY_LANG}.log"`
xmessage -bg red "Failed to create correct Language

$ERROR_MSG"

cd /usr/lib/locale/
rmdir ${MY_LANG}*
cd "$start_dir"
exec $0

fi

grep "$MY_LANG" /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED | grep "$MAP" || echo "$MY_LANG $MAP" >> /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED

sed -i "s%^LANG=.*%LANG=${MY_LANG}\.${MAP}%" /etc/profile
[ $? = 0 ] || { xmessage -gb red "Sorry, probably /etc/profile corrupt."; exit 1; }

Xdialog --left --wrap --title "Glibc Locale setup" --ok-label "Restart X now" --cancel-label "Finished"  --yesno "Ok, the change has been made and will take effect at next boot. However, if you click the 'Restart X now' button X will exit then restart and the new locale will immediately take effect -- however make sure that all other applications are closed first as restarting X will rudely kill them! Otherwise, just click 'Finished' for the new locale to take effect at next boot.\n\nTechnical details:\nLocale files have been generated in /usr/lib/locale (if not already) and LANG variable set to ${MY_LANG}.${MAP} in /etc/profile." 0 100
 if [ $? -eq 0 ];then
  rm -rf /tmp/.X0-lock
  sync
  exec restartwm $CURRENTWM
 fi
 
done

No da_DE in i18n Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat 20 Apr 2013, 11:38    Post subject:  
I don't think that da_DE or de_DK exists at this time .
Bonn-Kopenhagener Erklärungen

givt dat nich in inglisch .. Ick glööv dat jo nich !

Datts wegen die Englänners datt nich kennen, givt dat so veel Kriech inne Welt .

Jugoslawien wär jo een Exempel mit äner Vulksbefrugung ween west .. aver datt shall all so sien .
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PostPosted: Sat 20 Apr 2013, 11:48    Post subject:  
LIDL Smile wrote:
Code:
<input>echo $MY_LANGUAGE; cat /tmp/AVAIL_LANGUAGES.lst</input>

Did not know that feature . Great Cool

And with fixmenus : it is ok , I like the loop reordering on first short sight,
but have mine with debugging output and would have been overwritten .

Have backups but lazy me needs to find the hdd somewhere , dig it out and climb under the table to attach it to the pc Mr. Green .

And sorry, this time i could not withstand: l18l and lidl ( you know . have no lidl near my place, mostly penny market man ) . Wink Smile

Nevertheless you make good batch of work , LIBL !
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