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Puppyt

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PostPosted: Sat 13 Apr 2013, 19:03    Post subject:  

Thank you bigpup! I'm certain you are correct with your assessment and I'll re-create a fresh pupsave. If that doesn't work then I'll relegate the flash to emergency data use ony - it's a dud, hasn't had much previous use. Thanks for commenting on the 2fs / 3fs issue - I was concerned about BootFlash vfat rather than ext2/ext3 (and ext4? I don't recall seeing it as a Lucid option, but my mind is a blur) formatting. I tried the flash on a laptop with boot support for usb and it booted and LucidLibre reconfigured fine - but on shutdown it had a VERY long pause on "Libre is shutting down" and hung fatally on "...creating .3fs pupsave".

I definitely don't accuse the Lucid Puppy base - I dug out an old CD with My First Remaster on it - a 520 with upgraded kernel and all my preferred applications and settings - and it booted on the RT686 and saved a reusable pupsave on another flash drive with absolutely no problems.
Actually, that is the reason why I'm interested in LupuLibre as a base (after long overlooking it for newer Puppy "itches" on dual-core hardware) - with academic-oriented applications like Docear and Zotero maturing to very functional and stable stages, AND with Libre add-on functionality - not to mention the pre-installed java that will help with things like ImageJ, Jabref and JGR (Java GUI for R ) - well, as far as ye olde hardware requirements are concerned- the sky's the limit for us pigs in proverbial Smile

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PostPosted: Tue 16 Apr 2013, 12:12    Post subject:  

Hope somebody can help me with this Ubuntu program to work in Lupu

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http://www.makehuman.org/content/download.html
Makehuman i now in Quantal Repository
you may want to try the Beta2 and install
makehuman from the repository.


http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1975632&s=14c43613a17c307b87cafd7e7eb0177b&p=12274120#post12274120

http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Quantal_Repositories

Woul MakeHuman program work in Lupu or would somebody need
to work on it to be a pet or sfs? The program is described to need
python would that work for Lupu to include that language

What does one need to do to get it to work?

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Apr 2013, 15:06    Post subject:  

Hi nooby,
I'm well out of my league here, but if you load the Lupu_devx_528-4.sfs, you will have Python 2.6.5 installed after a reboot. It would be my hope that you could *just* do the ol' "make" / "configure" and "install" process from there to have Quantal running in Lucid 528 (after sorting out any further dependencies that might be required, like the sdl stuff).
This link to a how-to was posted on forums earlier and I'm using it as a general guide - perhaps it might help you too: http://fermatslastspreadsheet.com/2012/11/24/a-walkthrough-guide-to-building-yourself-a-linux-system-for-coding/

I reckon that I'm in a similar boat as you - I'm trying to compile a package (CowLog 2.0 http://cowlog.org/ and its dependencies Python 2.7.3 (ish) and PyQT4 - the latter requiring SIP pre-installed...). I've installed devx and downloaded all the files into build directories, but the puzzle pieces just aren't fitting together. I'm still getting my head around the compilation caper - and I see that at least two single/guest posters have requested updated Python and PyQT4 for Lucid in the recent past. Perhaps pelo's recent suggestion for multi-flavoured Lupu bases (java/python/qt etc) isn't such a bad idea!

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Apr 2013, 16:05    Post subject:
Subject description: [Request] Python 2.7.3 and PyQT pets or sfs for Lucid
 

Perhaps I should make my plea on the proper 'requests' forum?
I thought I might try to make a Python 2.7.3 pet or at least upgrade my Lucid Python. I've downloaded the latest series of Python 2.7.3, and extracted it to /mnt/home/lucid/build Python-2.7.3/Python-2.7.3, then in console commanded "./configure" and then "make install". (Ermm... toplevel directory???) I get some error messages concerning missing modules for sunaudiodev and bsddb185, but otherwise looks OK. The command "python --version" returns Python 2.6.5, so my original system is still unmodified. Could someone please either point me in the right direction from here, or outline how they made a python pet [EDIT: or SFS]?
I'm just missing key elements of information, and its got me spinning in circles. I'm aware that developers (and developer-minded folk) consider these sort of requests sometimes odious - the sands are always shifting and in all sorts of directions - and I need to get the troubleshooting process sorted for my own benefit, as various applications evolve and migrate their own dependencies. Are there helpful videos maybe on key upgrades in Puppy? But any advice would be thankfully received Smile

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PostPosted: Thu 18 Apr 2013, 12:02    Post subject:  

nooby wrote:
Hope somebody can help me with this Ubuntu program to work in Lupu

Quote:

http://www.makehuman.org/content/download.html
Makehuman i now in Quantal Repository
you may want to try the Beta2 and install
makehuman from the repository.


http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1975632&s=14c43613a17c307b87cafd7e7eb0177b&p=12274120#post12274120

http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Quantal_Repositories

Woul MakeHuman program work in Lupu or would somebody need
to work on it to be a pet or sfs? The program is described to need
python would that work for Lupu to include that language

What does one need to do to get it to work?


hi nooby,

i've had this running before on lucid puppy a while ago....

these instructions are only for lucid puppy

first off download the tar.gz http://makehuman.googlecode.com/files/makehuman-1.0a7-python26-i386.tbz2(note it's for python 2.6)
you then need to install these ...
libsdl-image http://mirror.pnl.gov/ubuntu//pool/universe/s/sdl-image1.2/libsdl-image1.2_1.2.10-1_i386.deb
libGLEW http://mirror.pnl.gov/ubuntu//pool/universe/g/glew/libglew1.5_1.5.2-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
python http://ftp.nluug.nl/os/Linux/distr/puppylinux/pet-packages-lucid/Python-2.6-Lucid.pet

you'll probably need to install your graphic drivers as well.

unzip the tar.gz and left click on 'makehuman' to run it. (note that the .deb for debian also works)

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PostPosted: Thu 18 Apr 2013, 12:22    Post subject:  

Puppyt wrote:


I reckon that I'm in a similar boat as you - I'm trying to compile a package (CowLog 2.0 http://cowlog.org/ and its dependencies Python 2.7.3 (ish) and PyQT4 - the latter requiring SIP pre-installed...). I've installed devx and downloaded all the files into build directories, but the puzzle pieces just aren't fitting together. I'm still getting my head around the compilation caper - and I see that at least two single/guest posters have requested updated Python and PyQT4 for Lucid in the recent past. Perhaps pelo's recent suggestion for multi-flavoured Lupu bases (java/python/qt etc) isn't such a bad idea!


Cowlog works in precise puppy .... i needed to install python-qt4 and python-sip from the PPM easy! ....
be warned ...python apps in lucid puppy though are an absolute nightmare!!

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PostPosted: Fri 19 Apr 2013, 00:46    Post subject:  

Thanks 666philb! That's very encouraging, I'll give that a go mid-week. I'm *hoping* that say if I build a pet in pemasu's Upup precise 3.7.2, it would be cross-compatible with Lucid? Or would it be another case of being strangled by Python?
[EDIT: whoops you stated it clearly already - I overlooked it in my excitement - Lucid + Python = world of pain Sad ]

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PostPosted: Wed 01 May 2013, 22:39    Post subject:  

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PostPosted: Sat 18 May 2013, 00:15    Post subject:  

Still using Lucid every day.......
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PostPosted: Sun 19 May 2013, 01:27    Post subject:  

Can't forget about Lucid Trinity.......
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PostPosted: Sun 19 May 2013, 05:51    Post subject:  

The reason I make use of Lucid Puppy or Lupu 528-005
is that the way I set it up is beyond me to set up on other Puppies.

I don't even know how to set up nother Lupu that way. the knowledge is gone
I fail to know how to ask google or ask foru, I would ahve start all over
and ask and ask and ask for each detail. That did happen now yesterday
when FatDog reset my hardware clock two hours I had no memory of how to set it right again. Early dementia in my brain?

Some weeks ago I knew how to change FF19 to FF20 now I have no clue
on how to change from FF20 to FF21

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PostPosted: Sun 19 May 2013, 06:52    Post subject:  

James C wrote:
Still using Lucid every day.......

Same for me. Lucid is still my favorite distro.
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PostPosted: Sat 08 Jun 2013, 17:01    Post subject:  

I’ve just done a full install of Lucid 5.28 FAT (i.e. with LibreOffice) and it's working fine except for the spell checking in both AbiWord and Libre Office, which in each case seems to be fussy about what kind of document it operates on, so I’ve further installed Softmaker Free Office which works really well in Lucid. I've also added a couple of extra browsers such as Iron and SeaMonkey as I like to have the choice of a non-Mozilla based browser and I think SeaMonkey is lighter on resources than Firefox. Iron is based closely on Chromium except that its settings are modified for extra security.

All this on a twelve year old computer! We sometimes forget (or I do anyway, though I try not to) how lucky we are with Puppy.

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PostPosted: Tue 11 Jun 2013, 14:07    Post subject:  

Thanks to PuppyT and to 666philb for encouraging descriptions
based on my long experience to always screw up such things
I don't dare to try it yet but much appreciated that you shared your knowledge

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PostPosted: Mon 24 Jun 2013, 02:27    Post subject:  

G'day,
I always thought that puppy 3.01 would never be surpassed (in my book) but I must admit that Puppy Lucid is winning my heart.

Just starting to customise though the new menu system needs a little work...

Cheers
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