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Set Time (for setting puppy's clock)
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gzer

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Jan 2013, 02:27    Post subject: Set Time
Subject description: This is for Puppy Precise 5.4.3
 

This is for Puppy Precise 5.4.3
First you’ve gone through the wizard but your Date/Time are wrong
Click Menu/Desktop/Psync Time Server Synchronisation
Make sure your time zone is correct if not
Click Menu/Desktop/Chooselocale Country Setup

Now Click on the Button that relates closiest to your Area of the world
You now have an option to Autostart this everytime your computer starts up

Hope this helps ya
Gzer
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Argolance


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PostPosted: Sun 14 Apr 2013, 17:03    Post subject:  

Thanks gzer: Was useful for me!

Cordialement.
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Argolance


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PostPosted: Sun 21 Apr 2013, 05:48    Post subject:  

Hello,
    1- When running Puppy on a PC where Windows is installed, as Windows directly set the hardware clock to the "right" Time, Puppy should have finally nothing else to do that support and display this Time without touching anything... How could this simply be done?
    Since daylight Time change, I absolutely never succeeded in getting the right Time: Puppy always puts its oar by adding or subtracting something to or from the hardware clock Time. Embarassed (Though I obviously could, while using Psync: but when there is no active network, this is not convenient!)

    2- The script by tasmod "set_hwclock_type" gently says, while choosing between "software to match hardware" and "hardware to match software": "if you don't know or uncertain, that's ok, just click the 'No' button!" Shocked
    Please, may somebody give "more" details about this configuration script, even for the first choice "What should the hardware clock be interpreted as?": "localtime" or "utc"? This is so laconic that many non English speaking users have some difficulties to well understand how this is exactly working?


Thanks for you attention.

Cordialement.
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L18L

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PostPosted: Sun 21 Apr 2013, 07:21    Post subject: /usr/sbin/set_hwclock_type
Subject description: missing some translation
 

Argolance wrote:
... This is so laconic that many non English speaking users have some difficulties to well understand how this is exactly working?
I do not have that difficulties because these messages are translated to my native language Cool

/usr/sbin/set_hwclock_type wrote:
#!/bin/sh
#written by pizzasgood, 2009
#GPL license /usr/share/doc/legal/gpl-2.0.txt
#120202 rodin.s: internationalized.

Yes......the terms:
-localtime
-utc
-software
-to match hardware
-hardware
-to match software
could be additionally internationalized
maybe by you Wink

... and then it is up to the translator

BTW
that is really not Additional Software (PETs, n' stuff)
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Argolance


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PostPosted: Sun 21 Apr 2013, 13:29    Post subject:  

Hello,
Thank you for answering.
Code:
#written by pizzasgood, 2009
Sorry! This script was created by pizzasgood and not by tasmod.

I saw it was partly internationalized but didn't know if these terms could be translated or not: as they were not, I though it was for a good reason and didn't take the liberty to change something.

"software to match hardware" and "hardware to match software", "What should the hardware clock be interpreted as?", "localtime" or "utc"?: Even translated in French, this needs nevertheless to be explained for the poor silly guy I am... What does this mean, what does the script make? What is it used for? This is confusing and I would like first to understand and then, write some help words to add to the script for user (who wouldn't know or would be uncertain!) to really make his choice with full knowledge of the actions.

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Argolance


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PostPosted: Sun 21 Apr 2013, 14:44    Post subject:  

Hello,
Puppy alone on my laptop (Windows not installed)
Hardware clock is set on UTC Time.
Please look at the pictures below (better than long speeches)...
Why my tray clock does not display right Time (+ 1 hour!)? Evil or Very Mad
I get the right Time if I make my hardware clock lie: UTC -1.
But this cannot be done on machine with windows installed on. So I am always getting 1 hour more!

Is this a bug?
Am I alone to encounter this issue?
Or what's wrong in my configuration?

Cordialement!
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L18L

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PostPosted: Mon 22 Apr 2013, 04:12    Post subject:  

Argolance wrote:
I get the right Time if I make my hardware clock lie: UTC -1.
Instead of lie please
- adjust your hardware clock in BIOS manually
or
- synchronize that is: try
Code:
psync

and click Europe button

/usr/share/doc/psync.html wrote:
Psync - Pour synchroniser l'heure sur un serveur.

Psync peut être lancé à partir du menu Bureau.
...
...
Si c'est ne pas clair, ce n'est pas francais Smile Laughing

[edit 10 min later]
BTW
We are in the same time zone
and I just have used psync. Now 1 second earlier than before Cool

[edit 10 min later] http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/eu/
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Argolance


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PostPosted: Mon 22 Apr 2013, 04:50    Post subject:  

Hello L18L,
Quote:
nstead of lie please
- adjust your hardware clock in BIOS manually

This is exactly what I did: Set the right UTC Time manually through the bios. And it is also here I have to "lie" and set it to UTC -1 hour, otherwise Puppy tray clock displays for example, 12 instead of 11.

As said above, I obviously know it is possible to get the right Time using Psync (and I am actually using it!) but it is a last resort: User not connected to the Internet gets wrong Time and have to correct this manually.
This should not be. This should simply work. And this doesn't!

I am running Puppy precise 5.4.3. Perhaps this doesn't occur with latest Precise version or other Puppy versions (Racy, Vary )?. This didn't with Puppy 4.31.

Thank you.
Cordialement.
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L18L

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PostPosted: Mon 22 Apr 2013, 09:33    Post subject:  

precise 5.5 (langpack_fr installed Smile )

13:29 .... CEST is a lie Razz [edit] and not yet internationalized Crying or Very sad [/edit]

should be

13:29 .... UTC Cool
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Argolance


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PostPosted: Tue 23 Apr 2013, 05:06    Post subject:  

Hello,
I finally found the solution! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
It was the Puppy Precise 5.4.3 /etc/rc.d/rc.country file that was the cause of the issue (I found an error message in /tmp/bootkernel.log which alerted me....)! So, I replaced it with the Puppy Precise 5.5 /etc/rc.d/[rc.country file and all is working OK now!
@L18L
Thank you for your willingness! Wink

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PostPosted: Tue 23 Apr 2013, 08:53    Post subject:  

Glad you found it Very Happy

And display CEST in case of UTC is a bug. Cool
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