ThinSlacko - March 2013 (deltas released May 2013)

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#41 Post by 01micko »

Here are some delta files for you to play with.

http://puppylinuxstuff.meownplanet.net/ ... .iso.delta main iso delta (24MB)

http://puppylinuxstuff.meownplanet.net/ ... ta.md5.txt checksum

http://puppylinuxstuff.meownplanet.net/ ... .sfs.delta devx (2MB)

http://puppylinuxstuff.meownplanet.net/ ... ta.md5.txt checksum

They turn your ThinSlacko-5.5.01-SCSI-XZ.iso into ThinSlacko-5.5.03-XZ.iso, sorry, no GZ just yet. Kernel sources later too (tomorrow), as it's k3.9. We'll see if they fixed the nvidia and other driver bugs eh?

Have fun!

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# uname -r
3.9.0.0
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: ThinSlacko Puppy, version 5.5.03

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G98 [GeForce 8400 GS] (rev a1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
  Depth (bits, or planes):              24
24
  Modules requested to be loaded:       dbe 
  Drivers requested to be loaded:       nvidia vesa 

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
  Driver loaded (and currently in use): nvidia
  Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 extmod fb glx kbd mouse ramdac record shadow wfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
  Resolution:  1366x768 pixels (413x232 millimeters)
  Depth:       24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
16566 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3313.091 FPS
16492 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3298.217 FPS
16910 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3381.845 FPS
# jwm -v
JWM vgit-750 by Joe Wingbermuehle
compiled options: confirm fribidi icons jpeg nls png shape svg xft xinerama xpm xrender 
system configuration: /etc/system.jwmrc
fixed:
-universal installer
-trash icon
-updated jwm/jwm-config
-added back startup-notification
-dropped scsi
-xorg-server is updated 1 dot point (upstream slackware)
-latest seamonkey support libs (upstream slackware)
-old woof from original ThinSlacko, I don't think BK's new xorgwizard is ready yet
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#42 Post by Billtoo »

Manual frugal install to a 32gb SDHC card,computer is an emachines D620 laptop.

video-info-glx 1.5.1 Sat 4 May 2013 on ThinSlacko Puppy 5.5.03
Linux 3.9.0.0 i686
5.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M
[Radeon X1200 Series]

X Server: Xorg Driver: radeon
X.Org version: 1.12.4
dimensions: 1280x800 pixels (338x211 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: X.Org R300 Project
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on ATI RS690
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4

AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 2650e
Core 0: @1596 MHz

# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
286 frames in 5.0 seconds = 57.185 FPS
298 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.453 FPS
298 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.453 FPS
#

Nexuiz runs great (effects set to low) which is awesome :)
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#43 Post by Billtoo »

Running from the live dvd with a savefile on an external hard drive,
computer is a mac mini.
video-info-glx 1.5.1 Sat 4 May 2013 on ThinSlacko Puppy 5.5.03
Linux 3.9.0.0 i686
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 0166 (rev 09)

X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.12.4
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Mobile x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3210M CPU @ 2.50GHz
Core 0: @1200 1: @1200 2: @1200 3: @1200 MHz

# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
303 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.405 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.999 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.001 FPS
#
I installed Seamonkey 2.17.1 from ppm after updating the slackware
patches repo, couple of other apps too.
It's working well, no problems at all so far.
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#44 Post by 01micko »

Billtoo,

There is no need to update the patches repo because it is done automatically every 2 days with Updates Manager. Actually, to be more correct, it only updates when you open Updates Manager and it finds that the file is more than 2 days old. It's very quick too, only takes 2 seconds for me.

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The kernel source is uploaded.

http://puppylinuxstuff.meownplanet.net/ ... cko_4g.sfs kernel source (107M)

http://puppylinuxstuff.meownplanet.net/ ... fs.md5.txt checksum

---------------------------------

Please note, the AUFS branch for 3.9 is not ready yet so this kernel uses the RC branch, 3.x-rcN. 3.8 does not work as the kernel devs removed the EXPERIMENTAL config option.

So far seems pretty stable to me, loading and unloading sfs OTF has been successful.
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#45 Post by James C »

ThinSlacko 5.5.03 live pfix=ram on the trusty old Athlon XP box. All looking good.

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# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: ThinSlacko Puppy, version 5.5.03

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
  Depth (bits, or planes):              24
  Modules requested to be loaded:       dbe 

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
  Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
  Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
  Resolution:  1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
  Depth:       24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
1650 frames in 5.0 seconds = 329.917 FPS
2100 frames in 5.0 seconds = 419.855 FPS
2147 frames in 5.0 seconds = 429.277 FPS
2124 frames in 5.0 seconds = 424.782 FPS
2142 frames in 5.0 seconds = 428.256 

-Computer-
Processor		: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory		: 1033MB (174MB used)
Machine Type		: Physical machine
Operating System		: ThinSlacko Puppy - 5.5.03
User Name		: root (root)
Date/Time		: Sat 04 May 2013 03:57:38 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution		: 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer		: Mesa DRI nv18 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE
X11 Vendor		: The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter		: VIA8233 - VIA 8235

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# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       1033580       593460       440120            0        39544
-/+ buffers:             553916       479664
Swap:      1228936            0      1228936
#
I'll try it on newer Nvidia graphics after the Derby.Looking solid so far. :)

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#46 Post by James C »

Live pfix=ram with newer Nvidia graphics. Still necessary to add nouveau.noaccel=1 as a boot parameter.... still freezes without it.Otherwise,everything working ootb.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: ThinSlacko Puppy, version 5.5.03

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
1452 frames in 5.0 seconds = 290.395 FPS
1674 frames in 5.0 seconds = 334.742 FPS
1715 frames in 5.0 seconds = 342.882 FPS
1412 frames in 5.0 seconds = 282.334 FPS
1558 frames in 5.0 seconds = 311.476 FPS 24 planes

-Computer-
Processor : 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Memory : 3373MB (177MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : ThinSlacko Puppy - 5.5.03
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sat 04 May 2013 10:56:14 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x300)
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia

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# uname -r
3.9.0.0
# 

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#47 Post by peebee »

01micko wrote:Here are some delta files for you to play with.
fixed:
-added back startup-notification
Thanks Mick

Some problems:

Kernel naming inconsistency in the devx? - see attached +

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# make
KBUILD_NOPEDANTIC=1 make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build M=`pwd`
make: *** /lib/modules/3.9.0.0/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
make: *** [all] Error 2
On bootup I get lots of error messages flash up - see bootkernel.log attached and then when I try to reboot I get dumped out to a console which allows typing but does not see any commands - have to power off to recover (this happens for all reboot attempts with or without savefile).

Was able to compile the Broadcom wl driver for this kernelafter moving the links in /lib/modules/3.9.0 to 3.9.0.0

This is on my laptop - pristine frugal install to ext4 formatted disk.

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#48 Post by 01micko »

peebee wrote:Kernel naming inconsistency in the devx?
You mean kernel source.. Must be a bug in my build script. I'll re-upload tomorrow.

Thanks for heads up. Strange that it let me compile nvidia driver! There was a curious error but it wasn't fatal.

EDIT: yes, I recall the nvidia error now, it couldn't find the modules.* files, that's because it was looking in 3.9.0 not 3.9.0.0.

The bug is that my kernel script can't handle 1 DOT kernel numbers (eg 3.9). I intentionally appended a .0 so it should have been 3.9.0, but somehow an extra .0 gets appended too. Guess I better find and fix that bug!

Once the fixed kernel source is up it should be fine.
peebee wrote:On bootup I get lots of error messages flash up - see bootkernel.log attached
Hmmm.. mine looks ok, also bootsysinit.log is ok. :?

EDIT: yours looks ok too except for a couple of ACPI exceptions, but then seems to recover further down, with a few ACPI warnings only. Have you noticed any ACPI related problems?
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#49 Post by peebee »

01micko wrote:EDIT: yours looks ok too except for a couple of ACPI exceptions, but then seems to recover further down, with a few ACPI warnings only. Have you noticed any ACPI related problems?
The last 2 lines on screen just before it drops out to a "console" and hangs are:

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acpid: exiting
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#50 Post by 01micko »

peebee, acpi=off on the kernel line may help.

I'll wait until 3.9 matures a bit before doing another version, also it's likely I missed a new config line for your machine. (HP lappy?)

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Kernel source is now re-uploaded
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#51 Post by anikin »

01micko wrote:fixed:
-added back startup-notification
You done good. It's absence in the previous version caused me great grief. Posting from this new ThinSlacko version. Installed geany & firefox from ppm, removed lynkx (severely and with extreme prejudice), compiled an iconless jwm (with traditional arrow pointers) to test the devx. Did a remaster - the iso is 125 M now. So far so good. Runs like a hare on my trusted eeepc. Doesn't pant, holds the temp well and gives me much joy. One little annoyance, though. On startup, firefox says it isn't set as default. I did modify the content of the default (lynkx) browser script to show firefox. Something else needs to be done, it seems. Any ideas?

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# uname -r
3.9.0.0
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: ThinSlacko Puppy, version 5.5.03

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
  Depth (bits, or planes):              24
  Modules requested to be loaded:       synaptics dbe 

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
  Driver loaded (and currently in use): intel
  Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 extmod fb glx kbd mouse record synaptics

Actual rendering on monitor:
  Resolution:  1024x600 pixels (270x158 millimeters)
  Depth:       24 planes

# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.871 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.186 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.915 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.110 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.115 FPS

# jwm -v
JWM vgit-750 by Joe Wingbermuehle
compiled options: confirm xft xrender
edit:
Added a picture to illustrate the firefox issue and jwm-750 sans icons.

And a new question:
`f00 wrote:jwm titlebar button hover with NPI cursor set - cursorscreeny by tas
`f00, if you have a link to cursorscreeny, can you please, share it? Thank you in advance.
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#52 Post by 01micko »

3.9.1 is still warm.

More deltas:
http://puppylinuxstuff.meownplanet.net/ ... .iso.delta 21M
http://puppylinuxstuff.meownplanet.net/ ... .sfs.delta ~350k
http://puppylinuxstuff.meownplanet.net/ ... .sfs.delta ~2M
http://puppylinuxstuff.meownplanet.net/ ... 5.5.04.txt checksums

-updated 3.9 >> 3.9.1, added some more drivers, probably more obscure ones
-fixed probepart for f2fs
-AUFS now up to stable 3.9 branch
-compiled aufs-util 3.9 statically (much smaller, seems to work ok now).

Seems faster to me :? (or maybe I'm just slower?)
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#53 Post by rcrsn51 »

ThinSlacko is becoming my favourite quick-and-dirty utility Puppy. And Links is good enough to install a printer.

What is the fastest way to get a Gutenprint package?

Can I make a suggestion? The old Legacy GRUB bootloader config doesn't have much value anymore because it can't recognize GRUB2 installs. I would recommend replacing it with Legacy GRUB Config 2013.

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#54 Post by `f00 »

As Ray Charles introduced his backup singers Sharon & Karen (sharin' & carin')..

Take a Shot! - yet another screenshot utility..., tas for short - works very well in most newer pups.

previous ref in this thread, page 3 (10th post)

mmmm.. been having some fun with peebee's lxde sfs (yes it does spout a fair amount of err messages in xerrs.log) and it won't do a wmpoweroff or wmreboot from lxde/openbox for me (but fine in blackbox, e16, fluxbox, jwm and miwm). Full disclosure - I have butchered the sfs as a somewhat trimmed quasi-install, so :|

faster/slower is all relativity in the observers point of view :lol:

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#55 Post by anikin »

Has anyone managed to setup Firefox as default browser in ThinSlacko?

I have this line in xerrs.log:

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(firefox:11403): GLib-GIO-WARNING **: Failed to execute child process "update-desktop-database" (No such file or directory)
And below is a weird symlink (link target 127.0.0.1:+11403) and an error window, that pops up if I click on it. Wonder, if it's related to my issue.

@`f00
You know how to share stuff.
Thank you very much.
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#56 Post by 01micko »

@rcrsn51. Try searching PPM and you will be given 1 option for gutenprint. That's the one main slacko uses. I'll also consider your new grubconfig. Thanks.

@`foo. I think I am just slower!

@anikin. Sc0ttman's neat "defaults-chooser" fails in Thin because too much is removed and it chokes. You can do it manually :

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echo "#!/bin/bash \nexec firefox \"\$@\"" > /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser
chmod 755 /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser
Don't worry about that stale symlink, seems to do no harm and the error in xerrs.log is generated by the slackware doinst.sh (like a pinstall.sh) which is KDE specific and is absolutely harmless.
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#57 Post by Billtoo »

It's working well here, no problems.
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#58 Post by James C »

5.5.04 working well here too...... frugal install on old Athlon XP box.
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#59 Post by peebee »

Hi Mick

Report of testing 5.5.04 on my HP laptop.....

Basically same problems as with 5.5.03 - lots of errors flash up on bootup but boots to a correctly dimensioned desktop where all is well until you try to reboot whence the reboot sequence drops out to a console where keystrokes are detected and displayed but no commands are recognised. Have to press power-off switch to get out.

Tried acpi=off on kernel line - this gets rid of the bootup error messages but boots to an incorrect dimensions desktop and trying other options through xorgwizard all fail to work. Reboot does not hang with the acpi=off switch in use.

The significant lines from bootkernel.log seem to be:
[ 26.349620] ------------[ cut here ]------------
[ 26.349680] kernel BUG at net/rfkill/core.c:244!
[ 26.349735] invalid opcode: 0000 [#1] SMP
[ 26.349878] Modules linked in: i915(+) fbcon bitblit softcursor font e1000e(+) ptp pps_core tileblit i2c_algo_bit drm_kms_helper drm i2c_core intel_agp intel_gtt agpgart hp_wmi(+) sparse_keymap rfkill wmi fan battery thermal video evdev button processor thermal_sys hwmon ac fuse aufs squashfs ssb mmc_core
[ 26.350009] Pid: 8196, comm: modprobe Not tainted 3.9.1-0 #1 Hewlett-Packard HP 550/3618
[ 26.350009] EIP: 0060:[<f81ec4f2>] EFLAGS: 00010246 CPU: 0
[ 26.350009] EIP is at rfkill_set_hw_state+0xa/0x67 [rfkill]
[ 26.350009] EAX: 00000000 EBX: 00000000 ECX: 00000018 EDX: 00000001
[ 26.350009] ESI: f3488400 EDI: f8200db0 EBP: 00000000 ESP: f5a81db8
[ 26.350009] DS: 007b ES: 007b FS: 00d8 GS: 0033 SS: 0068
[ 26.350009] CR0: 8005003b CR2: f8535edc CR3: 35bdb000 CR4: 000007d0
[ 26.350009] DR0: 00000000 DR1: 00000000 DR2: 00000000 DR3: 00000000
[ 26.350009] DR6: ffff0ff0 DR7: 00000400
[ 26.350009] Process modprobe (pid: 8196, ti=f5a80000 task=f5b26a90 task.ti=f5a80000)
[ 26.350009] Stack:
[ 26.350009] f8200db0 00000000 f3488400 f8200db0 f820320f 1e0e0f29 f348840c f3488400
[ 26.350009] f8200ea4 c121acf8 f348840c f8200ea4 f8200ea4 c1219adf f348840c f8200ea4
[ 26.350009] f3488440 c1219c06 00000000 f5a75640 f8200ea4 c12188cb f600a6d8 f5a756f4
[ 26.350009] Call Trace:
[ 26.350009] [<f820320f>] ? hp_wmi_bios_setup+0x20f/0x329 [hp_wmi]
[ 26.350009] [<c121acf8>] ? platform_drv_probe+0x23/0x44
[ 26.350009] [<c1219adf>] ? driver_probe_device+0x72/0x155
[ 26.350009] [<c1219c06>] ? __driver_attach+0x44/0x5f
[ 26.350009] [<c12188cb>] ? bus_for_each_dev+0x37/0x61
[ 26.350009] [<c12197be>] ? driver_attach+0x11/0x13
[ 26.350009] [<c1219bc2>] ? driver_probe_device+0x155/0x155
[ 26.350009] [<c12194c0>] ? bus_add_driver+0xae/0x1a5
[ 26.350009] [<f8203329>] ? hp_wmi_bios_setup+0x329/0x329 [hp_wmi]
[ 26.350009] [<c121a036>] ? driver_register+0x70/0xdb
[ 26.350009] [<f8203329>] ? hp_wmi_bios_setup+0x329/0x329 [hp_wmi]
[ 26.350009] [<f8203329>] ? hp_wmi_bios_setup+0x329/0x329 [hp_wmi]
[ 26.350009] [<c121a8dc>] ? platform_driver_probe+0x10/0x5f
[ 26.350009] [<f82034b2>] ? hp_wmi_init+0x189/0x1b9 [hp_wmi]
[ 26.350009] [<c1001162>] ? do_one_initcall+0x66/0x104
[ 26.350009] [<c10574e0>] ? load_module+0x1605/0x18e6
[ 26.350009] [<c101e81f>] ? vmalloc_sync_all+0xc7/0xc7
[ 26.350009] [<c1057822>] ? sys_init_module+0x61/0x75
[ 26.350009] [<c1375d70>] ? syscall_call+0x7/0xb
[ 26.350009] Code: 17 f6 42 0c 07 8d 40 20 74 04 31 d2 eb 05 ba ff 00 00 00 e9 cd b8 0f c9 c3 8b 40 78 83 e8 20 eb d8 57 85 c0 56 53 89 c3 57 75 02 <0f> 0b 89 d7 e8 99 95 18 c9 8b 73 0c 89 fa 84 d2 89 f2 74 05 83
[ 26.350009] EIP: [<f81ec4f2>] rfkill_set_hw_state+0xa/0x67 [rfkill] SS:ESP 0068:f5a81db8
[ 26.358194] ---[ end trace 8c8c1b5be6985f38 ]---
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Testing 5.5.04 k 3.9.1

#60 Post by ETP »

Hi 01micko,
Seems faster to me (or maybe I'm just slower?)

I agree on both counts! A good example is that the slight delay upon launching PupSysinfo from PupControl 2.3 has vanished with this new kernel. I have tested with f2fs partitions on both SDHC and SSD.

My only issue has been with the old included version of frisbee (frisbee-1.0-20130228).
Using a wired connection with no wireless card present, it seems slow to acquire an I/P. Disabling the service only leads to more problems as restarting X can sometimes kill it and on boot up it sometimes completely fails to acquire an address.

BK posted here about later versions:
http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00224

Edit-later (Having woken up properly)

With regard to Frisbee, I have a feeling that it is acquiring an I/P quickly, but is then releasing it only to then re-acquire it. This may well be desirable with wireless but is a PITA with a wired connection. If I am correct, it would explain the apparent slowness.
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