MouseCam Pups (V6 released 20th June 2013)

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MouseCam Pups (V6 released 20th June 2013)

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This Pup came about as a by-product of the request for a Pup operated by a “single switch
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Appreciation for your efforts

#2 Post by nancy reagan »

Hi ETP,

Although I did not try your pup yet, I want to say thank you for your efforts in helping the severely disabled to have full access to the possibilities computers can bring them.

Quite curious how well it is received by them.

Would it be an idea to submit it in Distrowatch ?

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Re: Appreciation for your efforts

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nancy reagan wrote:Hi ETP,

Although I did not try your pup yet, I want to say thank you for your efforts in helping the severely disabled to have full access to the possibilities computers can bring them.

Quite curious how well it is received by them.

Would it be an idea to submit it in Distrowatch ?

Nancy Reagan
Hi Nancy Reagan,

The Pups operated by a “single switch
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MouseCam Pup v5

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The above is now available for download from my server. The main change is the addition of an auto-hiding navigation panel on the right hand side of the screen.

It includes additional icons to simplify navigation with in particular, extra icons for minimise and restore. The panel hides if an application is run full screen. To then invoke the panel, move the cursor into the top right hand corner of the screen or the bottom right hand corner just above the taskbar. This method avoids false triggers.

It is probably best to get used to the various options for navigation using an ordinary mouse before using Eviacam. Please note also that Eviacam can, once launched, be disabled and enabled using the Scroll Lock key.

Edit 7th June 2013:
MouseCam Pup v5 is now also available for download from here:

http://www.puppylinuxstuff.meownplanet.net/ETP/
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Re: Appreciation for your efforts

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[quote="ETP"]I hope at least, that this Pup proves worthy of addition to the Accessibility list on puppylinux.org
Magoo Pups V5 & V6 together with greengeek’s “SwitchPup
ImageLxPup = Puppy + LXDE
Main version used daily: LxPupSc; Assembler of UPups, ScPup & ScPup64, LxPup, LxPupSc & LxPupSc64

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#7 Post by Ted Dog »

This is great, good timing, I will show this off to my MDA doctor at my yearly check-in next month, at the MDA clinic. Need to notify them now that I may need extra time, They generally rush me in/out since they can't do much but monitor and try different protocols, anyhow, no cure yet :(

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Is the zip file mouse_cam_pup v5 the correct one? could you split md5sum from zip?

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MouseCam Pup v5,

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Hi Ted Dog,

The ISO and md5 text file are both in the same directory. You can select the md5 file to download it if you wish, or just click on view to inspect and copy the checksum.
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#10 Post by Ted Dog »

Ah, goes Ted dog, I did know you could drill down and select the files individually. Second attempt was able to open the zip and check against the md5sum (which really had to be successful if it would unzip cleanly)
I wish I had more time to play with this, the monthly Muscular Dystrophy Meet and Eat for Adults and caregivers is only in a few hours. Would love to demonstrate this. I think for the majority of disabled persons who attend would not be extremely disabled to need a single switch. Also being encouraged to use head for mouse control would help the core support muscles.
I like many with M.D. have a limited range and duration of different muscle groups, so switching out what works for what doesn't is just a way of life, I can write with either hand just because If I over use one it stops functioning and I like to feed myself, so I switch hands, I've used wireless mouse with feet, forearms, nose, chin, cheek and tongue. It takes hours to type on some days.
So, like me, many just wait it out for days, and that is bad for most since unused muscles atrophy faster than used muscles.

Also I think these additions should never be limited or pick and choose on what to include. The single switch tied to a underused key hopefully is still in play. There will be times I would need to finish a email or a text long after I can not speak or move my head.

As you can tell today is not one of those days :lol: thankfully.

As this effort came about I think its a rare event that the hardest and most challenging goal was met, You have to think in most projects of this type good enough for most disabled people becomes mantra, and those extremely disabled are always the ones not reached.

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#11 Post by greengeek »

Only had time for a very quick trial so far, but this looks very interesting! I am blown away by how good the online dictation is. Excellent stuff ETP!

I really didn't expect the dictation to work at all (I've had so many problems with Dragon Dictate etc over the years...) but this dictator worked straight out of the box in a live CD session, without any configuration other than setting up the internet wireless connection. It takes my dictation almost at real time speed, and if I use a faux American accent there are very few errors. (Have to say "period" for a fullstop, "comma" for a comma, and "exclamation mark" for an exclamation mark)

Only issue noted so far is overlapping page up/page down icons at top right of screen (due to my 1024x768 screen I guess).
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Re: MouseCam first trial

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Hi Greengeek,

Driven on by Google, I agree that online dictation is getting better and better.

The best option with the overlap at 1024, is to remove those two icons and simply use those on the sidebar. It will also create space for the “save
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MouseCam Pup v5 – Add Voice Mail.

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After a long and frustrating search, I finally seem to have struck gold in the form of Vocaroo. You will of course, require a working microphone plus headset or speakers. The webcam mike could possibly be used. To post the email link to the recording you do need to be logged into Gmail.

Easy Setup:

1: Visit the site and add it to your bookmarks bar.

http://www.vocaroo.com

That’s it finish !!!!!!

It is worth watching the following video (With audio) that describes its use:

http://www.teachertrainingvideos.com/vocaroo1/

In actual fact it can be simplified even further.

Rather than clicking on the Email icon to the right of the Embed icon, click instead on the Gmail icon that I have circled in blue in the screenshot.
A Gmail compose window will then open with an attached hyperlink to the recording.
Select who you want to send it to and then send it. It gets better. You will note the download options but if you Cc the email to your own Gmail account or another of your mail accounts you can kill two birds with one stone.

It sure beats typing and is ideal for all the accessibility pups or indeed any pup.
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ETP keep the faith, this is too new and may be considered by many at 10,000Meter view. Also the group that would benefit the most has already invested hours learning the work-around and a big wad of funds to be able to send email via Windows ME era computers.
They may have given up looking and dreaming of the new age of internet being cheaply available to them.
I fully expect your host serving the ISO to go down, once this is well known in the handicapped circles. If Jerry Lewis does not showcase this on the 2014 MDA LaborDay telethon, I've totally misread the actual people I know... :wink:
Actually I'm concerned, that it could make it in 2013 MDA telethon, if the people I will be meeting to demo this are too gun ho about it.

I've been biting my lip online at the other mostly private disability forums I am a member, just to keep this thread and puppylinux from the in-rush of new users, until more of us learn the ends and outs of something so new, and updating at such a pace slows down.

That is why I keep talking about getting better hosting, getting to the files is and has been problematic for me. I will have a stack of pre-burned DVD's at my meeting and they will be left at the MDA clinic for anyone to try.
You have many good screen shots, showing the activity, would you be able to make clear videos, (no compressed crap like youtube)
that I could included with my pre-burnt DVD's, I'm looking for a DVD for show and tell that could fit in the miniDVD 1.4G size for easy mailing in standard sized letter and postage.

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MouseCam Pup v5

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Hi Ted Dog,
I see no reason why disabled users should be denied what 90% of able bodied people seem to use these days. The fact that this is free and runs on modest kit is a bonus. (The main components of my PC, a Pentium D with 1GB of DDR2 Ram, date from 2005.)

The voice mail “how to
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Thanks, I can hopely talk a family member that mades TV programs into helping, she has lots of nice promo videos for a few car company websites.
But she only his two modes broadcast quality and effort ( days to weeks ) OR cell phone capture.

Its the nature of the audience, Early adopters are handcapped but the usefulness would be evident to those caregivers and family. Disabled people do not know this exist nor would it be worth the time to learn.
The file downloads get corrupted on the journey across the pond, same happens if the servers are located in the Asia rim.
Their has been large scale cyber-attacks against USA, I think this could be a side effect. Switzerland host should work fine in the European market.

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#17 Post by Ted Dog »

Also could be your code is solid and there is not much to discuss.
I got angry once as a programmer for a large project at a huge software house, in the lack of feedback I was getting from my group, then unit and the testers. We had time set aside for peer review, units watching over other units code for error, and a team of testers. Two full days were set aside for this process, correction time was planned in. I was twiddling my thumbs for hours a day, waiting for some feedback.
A had enough and marched in to the QA testing group and challenged the team leader. He laughed at me, my code caused him all sorts of problems that his boss had to be the one to assign my code to a tester. Code was so clean that the testing group fought over it, for an easy day, they used automated script testing and my code would spin for about three hours without causing a blip.
Of course it backfired one cycle, The final release QA master triggered a bug, that blew-up my code. My code testing was skipped that cycle due to many reasons. I'm chilling at my desk as was my habit the final hour of week. As the firestorm of cursing mixed with my name found me! He never heard of me, never made it to his code watch list. He thought I was new and did not know the system.
I pulled up my bug list and scrolled back months of no bugs to report. To which he left to go scream at the testing leadership. They accepted blame, while I fixed the bug (code in a shared library) I called the testing group to tell them I fix it, and they where able to salvage that milestone, on just my word and backing of my reputation on clean code.

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Congradulations & Alternate Keyboard

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Hi ETP and All,
Revised: 6/29: See http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 825#710825

Congratulations on Mousecam pup. For many, hopefully most, it appears to be the best current solution to a difficult situation. Regretfully, I am currently unable to explore it for two reasons. The only webcam I have occasional access to is built into a Toshiba Satellite L775d which doesn't play well with Puppies. The Toshiba belongs to my wife, an only child, who never really became accustomed to sharing her toys.
Hopefully the attached desktop file may be of value to mousepup users on those occasions when they have to use an onscreen keyboard. As I understand it, the keyboard pet you've used is xvkbd. The attached is a keyboard layout which doesn't require –in fact currently works better without-- radar or NavBar. As indicated by the attached photo, it is designed as a spiral around a central space-key, with the most frequently used letters closest to that key and, whenever possible, letters frequently associated with those close to them. That arrangement should reduce mouse-cursor movement when typing to a minimum. Further efficiency might be achieved in two* ways, both through settings in Xvkbd's property menu. The first is Automatic Click, which provides:
“Set on/off of the automatic click feature and the delay before automatic click is activated. If this feature is set, xvkbd will work as if left mouse button is clicked when mouse pointer is moved on a button and stays long enough. You may want to set Jump Pointer? to OFF to avoid auto-repeating.
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RE: Alternate Keyboard

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Hi mikeslr,

Thanks for your alternate keyboard layout which makes a useful addition to the accessibility tools. I realise how much effort you have put into this aspect and it is good to see that you have achieved your goal. Despite the inclusion in MouseCam of Google voice search, dictation and the option for voice mail, there will inevitably still be a need to input text into fields.

When I first saw Will Best’s original post in the “Single Switch
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#20 Post by Ted Dog »

remotely nagged over nagged in person.... I know how I'd choose. :wink: That way I can do this :roll:

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