Raring Puppy 5.6.94 (5.7alpha2), released June 29, 2013

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Raring Puppy 5.6.94 (5.7alpha2), released June 29, 2013

#1 Post by BarryK »

See announcement on my blog:

http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00301

In particular, note the new IPC infrastructure.

This pup has the 3.9.5 kernel, i686, PAE-enabled.

Ray MK started a thread on the alpha1 release here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=86776

...I have fixed some bugs reported in that thread.

Feedback welcome!
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Very exciting Barry!

#2 Post by dennis-slacko531 »

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This is great! The Intel video works perfectly. I'm uploading the iso & md5 to my little mirror (right now). Thanks again...

http://www.beOk.com/lnux
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#3 Post by bigpup »

Raring Puppy 5.6.94 (5.7alpha2)
Live CD install, save to CD.

When programs are opened, the program window is not maximized.
If you select the full screen symbol (upper right of window) it gets slightly bigger but not maximized.
If you right click on title bar of window and choose maximize ,same thing, window only gets a little bigger.
Only way to make window bigger is to drag edges with mouse pointer.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
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#4 Post by bigpup »

Graphic settings were perfect on first boot.
Even the nouveau driver, seems to be working well, with my hardware.
Has been an issue in other versions of Puppy.
1680X1050 resolution.
Nvidia 560ti graphics card.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
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Raring Puppy 5.6.94 (5.7alpha2), released June 29, 2013

#5 Post by Billtoo »

I used Unetbootin to install 5694 alpha2 to a 4gb flash drive.
I installed the proprietary nvidia driver for the card in this pc.
I installed xbmc and kdegames along with a couple of other
applications using ppm.
I have the same problem that I reported in alpha 1, after doing a
reboot sound and network are broken and not fixable, that I can do at
least.
Installing certain applications from ppm breaks sound and network.
This happens on two different computers that I've tested on.

EDIT:I moved the flash drive to another pc and I got the network
working again by loading the module listed in lspci.
I plugged in a usb sound card and loaded the bootmanager, added the
snd-usb kernel module and rebooted.
Sound and wireless network are working now on this pc.
Computer
Processor 6x AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor
Memory 8309MB (152MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Raring Puppy - 5.6.94
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Sat 29 Jun 2013 07:11:42 PM EDT
Display
Resolution 3840x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer GeForce GT 430/PCIe/SSE2/3DNOW!
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
OpenGL
Vendor NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer GeForce GT 430/PCIe/SSE2/3DNOW!
Version 4.3.0 NVIDIA 319.32
Direct Rendering Yes
Audio Devices
Audio Adapter USB-Audio - Sound Blaster X-Fi Go! Pro
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Re: Raring Puppy 5.6.94 (5.7alpha2), released June 29, 2013

#6 Post by peebee »

BarryK wrote:This is looking pretty good, maybe I should have bumped it to a beta!
Hi Barry

Pristine, frugal install....

I continue to have significant problems with this Raring version of Puppy on my HP550 Laptop (which works consistently well on all other Puppies):
  • 1. lots of (udev?) error messages flash up on boot

    2. dmesg and bootkernel.log shows a process crashing - see attached

    3. I'm unable to shutdown or reboot - the process freezes and can only be recovered by a hard switch-off.
I don't have any of these problems with pemasu's upup-raring-387

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#7 Post by majorfoo »

I had full install of 5.6.92 alpha 1 on ext4 partition

Downloaded delta files for alpha2, created new iso and did upgrade to full install

Looks good - no problems to report

Thanks Barry for all your hard work in keeping puppy alive.

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#8 Post by zigbert »

pBackup is an unmaintained project, and is not looking good. I would be happy if it was removed from the iso.

Raring 5.6.94 ships pMusic-3.3.0. I recommend version 4.0.1. This requires the latest gtkdialog. pMusic-4.0.1 has grown, and now weight about 118kb, but it is loaded with goodies, so I don't think it is a waste of kb. On the other hand, the iso includes both pCD and the pMusic CD-player. pCD has not evolved in the same way that pMusic has, and the CD-player in pMusic is in better shape at the moment. pCD could leave the iso...

When it comes to pBurn, great stuff has entered with the release of version 4.0.0. BUT, this relies on cdrtools-3 which misses in your Puppies. Slacko and FatDog has moved on from the older cdrkit. If you stick to cdrkit, 3.7.18 is the right choice.


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#9 Post by tlchost »

bootable usb 16 gig system memory

Audio, Viseo, Network function, save file created, settings save.

Speed changing directories, viewing directories is very slow....clicking on a directory within /root takes up to 5 minutes to display contents...and in many instances system is non-responsive at that point.

none of these problems with pemasu's upup-raring-387

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#10 Post by gcmartin »

Thanks Barry

Initial Boot and running via Live media on a very meager laptop.

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# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       1025372       423308       602064            0        39960
-/+ buffers:             383348       642024
Swap:      4295676            0      4295676
# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       1025372       423308       602064            0        39960
-/+ buffers:             383348       642024
Swap:      4295676            0      4295676
# 
# echo "Perform request Barry makes for IPC test"
Perform request Barry makes for IPC test
# 
# pup_event_ipc "block:myapp"
cha:sr0 
# pup_event_ipc "block:myapp"
cha:sr0 
# pup_event_ipc "block:myapp"
cha:sr0 
# pup_event_ipc "block:myapp"
add:sdb add:sdb1 
# pup_event_ipc "block:myapp"
rem:sdb1 rem:sdb 
# 
# echo "Following checks for hostname results from FirstRUN utility"
Following checks for hostname results from FirstRUN utility
# 
# hostname
Raring5694Laptop4
# hosts
bash: hosts: command not found
# /etc/hosts
bash: /etc/hosts: Permission denied
# cat /etc/hosts
127.0.0.1 localhost Raring5694Laptop4
192.168.1.1 pc2
192.168.1.2 pc3
192.168.1.3 pc4
# cat /etc/hostname
Raring5694Laptop4
# 
# echo "Above results are accurate for a PC with its LAN cable plugged-in!"
Above results are accurate for a PC with its LAN cable plugged-in!
Also, just was given an 5 year old eeePC and this boots and runs, too.

Will provide eeePC specs in a subsequent post to this thread.

Here to help
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gcmartin

#11 Post by gcmartin »

@Barry
This is a request for consideration.

My router provides me the ability to designate by MAC address which can use my WiFi. As a further precaution, the router capably will match the hostname of the requesting PC with its MAC address before allowing it access to LAN services. This is an important authentication feature for devices on my LAN.

Your Firstrun Utility, unlike Shinobar's version which behaves different to yours, denies a PC the ability to set the hostname when it is booted without a "real" Ethernet cable plugged in.

I can see that you've also made a new change because the behavior in this version sets values when an ethernet cable in plugged-in where the desktop restart does not occur. I applaud your doing so for that behavior of FirstRUN.

Might you consider allowing FirstRUN to be able to set the hostname regardless whether it has a LAN cable plugged or not. I know there is much on your plate.

Thanks for any consideration as you move forward with this distro version.

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Raring Puppy 5.6.94 (5.7alpha2), released June 29, 2013

#12 Post by Billtoo »

Continued from previous message.
I plugged my usb sound card into the computer from my previous
message, sound and the wireless connection are working fine, XBMC
works fine too.
I have 5694 alpha 2 working on 2 computers at least.
Happy,happy :)
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#13 Post by James C »

Not very enthused about testing this because of the pae kernel but..........

Fresh frugal install of Raring 5.6.94 on the old P3 test box.Sound,internet and display all working and correct on initial boot.

re# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Raring Puppy, version 5.6.94

Chip description:
Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 (GMCH) Graphics Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 (CGC) Chipset Graphics Controller (rev 03)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): intel
Loaded modules: dbe ddc extmod fb glx int10 kbd mouse ramdac vbe vgahw

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1024x768 pixels (321x241 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
24 frames in 5.1 seconds = 4.737 FPS
26 frames in 5.2 seconds = 5.032 FPS
24 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4.795 FPS
25 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4.983 FPS
24 frames in 5.1 seconds = 4.715 FPS

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# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:        253032       249460         3572            0        12312
-/+ buffers:             237148        15884
Swap:      1020092         5832      1014260
#
-Computer-
Processor : Pentium III (Coppermine)
Memory : 253MB (171MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Raring Puppy - 5.6.94
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sat 29 Jun 2013 11:52:40 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on softpipe
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : ICH - Intel 82801AA-ICH

Everything works but is painfully slow...... to the point of being unusable.

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#14 Post by James C »

Frugal install on the Athlon XP box ....... much better but still seems slower than normal.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Raring Puppy, version 5.6.94

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1440x900
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
106 frames in 5.1 seconds = 20.931 FPS
102 frames in 5.0 seconds = 20.211 FPS
102 frames in 5.0 seconds = 20.347 FPS
107 frames in 5.0 seconds = 21.327 FPS
109 frames in 5.0 seconds = 21.752 FPS
102 frames in 5.0 seconds = 20.340 FPS

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# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       1033680       537448       496232            0        51476
-/+ buffers:             485972       547708
Swap:      1228936            0      1228936
# 
-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1033MB (250MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Raring Puppy - 5.6.94
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun 30 Jun 2013 12:22:26 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on softpipe
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

EDIT:
Not scientific but same hardware with Precise 5.6.1...

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1034MB (199MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Precise Puppy - 5.6.1
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun 30 Jun 2013 12:26:09 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI nv18 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

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#15 Post by gcmartin »

Running LIveCD system: Run JWM setup and scan system tools for issues. None, during the running.

Reboot with save-session to LiveCD. All goes well without issue on reboot to desktop. Systems find all as expected; namely swap and save-session. System behavior for videos and audio continues as before rebooting.

System behavior shows signs of problems after reboot

Icon Switcher effects and ROX error
During a mouse over, the Icon Switcher popped to desktop: OK, I'll bite...I change the icon to one of the more traditional sets. Minutes later, I open ROX and receive the error shown below.

Several minutes later as I navigate the mouse, the desktop's icons begin changing on their own as I mouse-over icons.

I then Menu>Desktop>Icon Switcher on several occasions and desktop icons to not return to their prior states.
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#16 Post by peebee »

Results of testing:

Broadcom wl.ko wifi driver - works

Chromium 28 - works after 1 simple link is created

LxPup by SFS - works apart from automatically detecting new devices - can be got around by using pmount

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#17 Post by peebee »

Tried Raring Puppy Alpha2 on my desktop with nvidia graphics.

Got none of the problems reported above on my laptop.....

however after the first reboot after savefile creation I was presented with a black screen and an apparently DOA pc - but in fact after experimentally pressing ctrl-alt-backspace I was returned to the console and could then run xorgwizard - selected nouveau (my screen dimensions were not displayed as an option) so chose the "let xorg decide" option - and this then chose a driver which worked as well as any other nouveau with this setup (i.e the screen is always displaced a little to the right losing part of the clock).

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#18 Post by Sage »

5694 on XP3000/1G: Serious problems booting from liveCD, worst ever experience, with spurious messages never seen before - checked d/l and burned twice - they were OK. Finally, it decided to start; fairly slow.
Dislike the font/pt. size/background and icon set. Didn't like the menus, which get increasingly convoluted to navigate. Poor browser choice remains endemic in the breed! These are personal views, though.
On the positive side, things work ootb, connection, sound, video(Radeon) and Flash.
This one is a far cry from the simplicity of the early Puppies; gives the feeling of being overly and unnecessarily complex. I won't be using this one. No-one can doubt the skill and expertise of our Dear Leader, but like other mere mortals, maybe sometimes sight of the wood can get lost for the trees?

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5.6.94 pupsave file language problem

#19 Post by FeodorF »

Booting from live CD into my pupsave file on hard disk.

Can anybody explain why Seamonkey doesn't accept my language setup.
Ah, it only happens while you start Seamonkey for the first time - as first X-application. (But on every boot!)

If you close Seamonkey and start it new then everything works well.
If you start Leafpad as first X-app and urxvt as second X-app you'll face the same problem.
Same problem with test box#2. Booting with this one from live CD into pupsave file on a usb stick.
HardInfo does not list the usb keyboard regardless to the point of connection (Motherboard or usb hub) . HardInfo file included.
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#20 Post by artsown »

Fresh frugal install of 5694 A2 on my old Dell Dimension 8200 having P4
2.0 ghz cpu and 768 meg RAM, No problems noted.

I hope the final release includes a far more up to date mplayer such as
1.0.8

Installed Firefox 22.0 and as usual it is quicker than SM.

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