Posted on 1 Jul 2013, 22:21 by BarryK
Re Raring 5.7
I've been thinking about it some more, and I don't think that I want to develop Raring Puppy to release status.
Besides, Ubuntu Raring Ringtail is one of the short-life releases, only until October.
There will probably be another official release of Precise Puppy ...sometime.
Raring Puppy 5.6.94 (5.7alpha2), released June 29, 2013
From Barry's blog:
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
lang_pack_ja-1.5-Raring_5.6.94.sfs
Please refer to this sfsdon570 wrote:Bug report...
After installing icake's Chinese pet packages
the Start menu doesn't display Chinese characters, however the icons on
the desktop do show the Chinese characters.
This occurs in alpha 1 and alpha2 of Raring. Earlier version doesn't
have this bug. Precise or Slacko doesn't have this bug.
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lang_pack_ja-1.5-Raring_5.6.94.sfs
Re: Raring Puppy 5.6.94 (5.7alpha2), released June 29, 2013
it appears that it's libudev1_198-0ubuntu11.1_i386.deb causing those problems.... it's overwriting the one already in puppy... installing libudev from the PPM and uninstalling it should fix it.Billtoo wrote:Yes I download from the Ubuntu repositories, XBMC and VLC download and install fine, the trouble begins after rebooting the system, sound and the network connection are broken.bigpup wrote:Are you downloading from one of the Ubuntu repositories?Billtoo wrote:Have any other testers installed XBMC or VLC from puppy package manager successfully?
Installing them from ppm causes problems on every pc that I've tested the raring alphas on.
If yes, are you doing the check for dependencies and downloading them?
Seems to need a lot of dependencies along with the VLC package.
I have downloaded both in Precise 5.6.1 with no problems, although the versions of XBMC and VLC are older in Precise 5.6.1 they work fine.
or deleting libudev from /initrd/pup_rw/lib
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Bionicpup64 built with bionic beaver packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114311
Xenialpup64, built with xenial xerus packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107331
Xenialpup64, built with xenial xerus packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107331
in JWM, when i move a window to the edge of the screen it stops, instead of moving to the next virtual desktop, like in other puppies
EDIT: the window does move to the next desktop after a long delay ... "The optional delay attribute sets the delay in milliseconds before moving a window to a different desktop. Setting this to 0 disables dragging between desktops. 1000 is the default."
i changed the delay by editing /root/.jwm/jwm-personal and adding the delay switch
EDIT: the window does move to the next desktop after a long delay ... "The optional delay attribute sets the delay in milliseconds before moving a window to a different desktop. Setting this to 0 disables dragging between desktops. 1000 is the default."
i changed the delay by editing /root/.jwm/jwm-personal and adding the delay switch
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<MoveMode delay="500">outline</MoveMode>
Bionicpup64 built with bionic beaver packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114311
Xenialpup64, built with xenial xerus packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107331
Xenialpup64, built with xenial xerus packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107331
Now works with Barry Kauler's Raring
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=87043
Chinese now shows in Raring Start menu.
I added the following code in pinstall.sh of icake's language pack
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=87043
Chinese now shows in Raring Start menu.
I added the following code in pinstall.sh of icake's language pack
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#120924 DejaVu font no good for non-Latin languages...
#see also similar code in /usr/local/petget/hacks-postinstall.sh.
LANGPACKLANG=zh
case $LANGPACKLANG in
zh*|ja*|ko*) #chinese, japanese, korean
sed -i -e 's%DejaVu Sans%Sans%' ./etc/xdg/templates/_root_*
if [ -d ./root/.jwm ];then
sed -i -e 's%DejaVu Sans%Sans%' ./root/.jwm/themes/*-jwmrc
sed -i -e 's%DejaVu Sans%Sans%' ./root/.jwm/jwmrc-theme
fi
[ -d ./etc/xdg/openbox ] && sed -i -e 's%DejaVu Sans%Sans%' ./etc/xdg/openbox/*.xml
[ -d ./root/.config/openbox ] && sed -i -e 's%DejaVu Sans%Sans%' ./root/.config/openbox/*.xml
GTKRCFILE="$(find ./usr/share/themes -type f -name gtkrc | tr '\n' ' ')"
for ONEGTKRC in $GTKRCFILE
do
sed -i -e 's%DejaVu Sans%Sans%' $ONEGTKRC
done
if [ -d ./root/.mozilla ];then
MOZFILE="$(find ./root/.mozilla -type f -name prefs.js -o -name '*.css' | tr '\n' ' ')"
for ONEMOZ in $MOZFILE
do
sed -i -e 's%DejaVu Sans%Sans%' $ONEMOZ
done
fi
;;
esac
Hi don570,
There might be another reason for Chinese fonts not being correctly displayed. Font configuration is seriously broken in Raring and in Woof I reckon. It misses a key ingredient: the "conf.avail" directory. See image below.
Someone on Ubuntu Forum posted an expanded set of etc/fonts directory, you might find it useful for your localization work. It has conf. files for many additional languages. I'm reposting it here.
There might be another reason for Chinese fonts not being correctly displayed. Font configuration is seriously broken in Raring and in Woof I reckon. It misses a key ingredient: the "conf.avail" directory. See image below.
Someone on Ubuntu Forum posted an expanded set of etc/fonts directory, you might find it useful for your localization work. It has conf. files for many additional languages. I'm reposting it here.
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And I'm wondering if we should even discuss puppy's speed without having any proof of it. I saw your response to aarf's comment on BK blog and have a convenient opportunity of running the test against freshly installed upup Raring-3.9.81. Running in pfix=ram mode, off of an 8GB SD card on an Intel atom n270/945GSE dual SSD eeepc. Done exactly the same way as you described it.mavrothal wrote:I was wondering if the perceived speed of Raring is hardware specific
So here's my results:
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Puppy Raring 5.6.94 upup Raring-3.98.1
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# time seamonkey # time seamonkey
real 0m50.227s real 0m19.392s
user 0m3.567s user 0m6.250s
sys 0m0.427s sys 0m0.680s
# time geany # time geany
real 0m8.837s real 0m7.431s
user 0m0.890s user 0m1.940s
sys 0m0.090s sys 0m0.163s
# time abiword # time abiword
real 0m12.224s real 0m28.997s
user 0m2.450s user 0m6.447s
sys 0m3.637s sys 0m8.623s
# time ppm # time ppm
real 0m19.819s real 0m36.362s
user 0m8.103s user 0m16.053s
sys 0m2.580s sys 0m5.367s
# time gnumeric # time gnumeric
real 0m14.066s real 0m22.827s
user 0m3.787s user 0m9.300s
sys 0m1.117s sys 0m2.290s
# time gparted # time gparted
real 0m21.217s real 1m26.260s
user 0m4.050s user 0m7.147s
sys 0m3.517s sys 0m7.157s
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Puppy Raring is faster than Upup Raring, but is it faster to Upup Precise (that's what I compared), or Racy or Slacko?anikin wrote: What you guys are seeing here?
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Here's a breakdown of real/user/sys time command:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_%28Unix%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_%28Unix%29
One more thing is that 'time' really measures the CPU time that a process and its children consume. Does not account for I/O speed of GPU/X-rendering speed that may affect performance as perceived by the real life user.anikin wrote:Here's a breakdown of real/user/sys time command:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_%28Unix%29
I basically shows how well an app and the libraries it depends on perform CPU-wise.
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...at the end of the day, it all gets a bit subjective. Personally, I have perceived Precise's latest incarnation to outstrip many Pups, especially Rarin' on a wide range of HW, albeit without your detailed measurements and analyses. Notwithstanding, Rarin' presently has so many other issues for BK to struggle with. I am not prepared to waste time (and dosh) on the industries latest 999-core monstrosities pushed at us in the inexorable cycles to trouser even more of our cash for no apparent gain. It all started when Intel couldn't get the heat out of their processors, particularly as the feature sizes dropped to 45, then 32nm. Now they're all at it. Strange when one considers what Google's Android can achieve on a little ol' ARM v6 & co. with no HSF at all !
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Problem mounting ntfs partition read/write
I get an improper error when mounting an ntfs partition that causes it to be unable to mount the partition read/write. I had the same problem with the latest precise. So rcrsn51 suggested that I replace the relevant ntfs-3g components with those from a pup that works. It worked, so I tried it with this distribution too. Deleted files ntfs-3g, libntfs-3g.so.84, and libntfs-3g.so84.0.0 and replaced them with slacko 5.5.70 files nfts-3g, libntfs-3g.so.83, and libntfs-3g.so.83.0.0 and it's mounting properly.
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