Raring Puppy 5.6.94 (5.7alpha2), released June 29, 2013

[bigpup]

From Barry's blog:

Posted on 1 Jul 2013, 22:21 by BarryK
Re Raring 5.7
I've been thinking about it some more, and I don't think that I want to develop Raring Puppy to release status.

Besides, Ubuntu Raring Ringtail is one of the short-life releases, only until October.

There will probably be another official release of Precise Puppy ...sometime.

[tomo3]

Bug report...

After installing icake's Chinese pet packages
the Start menu doesn't display Chinese characters, however the icons on
the desktop do show the Chinese characters.

This occurs in alpha 1 and alpha2 of Raring. Earlier version doesn't
have this bug. Precise or Slacko doesn't have this bug.
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Please refer to this sfs

lang_pack_ja-1.5-Raring_5.6.94.sfs

[666philb]

Have any other testers installed XBMC or VLC from puppy package manager successfully?
Installing them from ppm causes problems on every pc that I've tested the raring alphas on.

Are you downloading from one of the Ubuntu repositories?
If yes, are you doing the check for dependencies and downloading them?
Seems to need a lot of dependencies along with the VLC package.

Yes I download from the Ubuntu repositories, XBMC and VLC download and install fine, the trouble begins after rebooting the system, sound and the network connection are broken.
I have downloaded both in Precise 5.6.1 with no problems, although the versions of XBMC and VLC are older in Precise 5.6.1 they work fine.

it appears that it's libudev1_198-0ubuntu11.1_i386.deb causing those problems.... it's overwriting the one already in puppy... installing libudev from the PPM and uninstalling it should fix it.

or deleting libudev from /initrd/pup_rw/lib

[666philb]

in JWM, when i move a window to the edge of the screen it stops, instead of moving to the next virtual desktop, like in other puppies

EDIT: the window does move to the next desktop after a long delay ... "The optional delay attribute sets the delay in milliseconds before moving a window to a different desktop. Setting this to 0 disables dragging between desktops. 1000 is the default."

i changed the delay by editing /root/.jwm/jwm-personal and adding the delay switch

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<MoveMode delay="500">outline</MoveMode>

[don570]

Please refer to this sfs

lang_pack_ja-1.5-Raring_5.6.94.sfs

Thanks for the info. I would never be able to solve this problem
myself.

By the way Pemasu's version of Raring does display Chinese characters.
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[don570]

Now works with Barry Kauler's Raring
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=87043

Chinese now shows in Raring Start menu.
I added the following code in pinstall.sh of icake's language pack

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#120924 DejaVu font no good for non-Latin languages...
#see also similar code in /usr/local/petget/hacks-postinstall.sh.
LANGPACKLANG=zh
case $LANGPACKLANG in
 zh*|ja*|ko*) #chinese, japanese, korean
  sed -i -e 's%DejaVu Sans%Sans%' ./etc/xdg/templates/_root_*
  if [ -d ./root/.jwm ];then
   sed -i -e 's%DejaVu Sans%Sans%' ./root/.jwm/themes/*-jwmrc
   sed -i -e 's%DejaVu Sans%Sans%' ./root/.jwm/jwmrc-theme
  fi
  [ -d ./etc/xdg/openbox ] && sed -i -e 's%DejaVu Sans%Sans%' ./etc/xdg/openbox/*.xml
  [ -d ./root/.config/openbox ] && sed -i -e 's%DejaVu Sans%Sans%' ./root/.config/openbox/*.xml
  GTKRCFILE="$(find ./usr/share/themes -type f -name gtkrc | tr '\n' ' ')"
  for ONEGTKRC in $GTKRCFILE
  do
   sed -i -e 's%DejaVu Sans%Sans%' $ONEGTKRC
  done
  if [ -d ./root/.mozilla ];then
   MOZFILE="$(find ./root/.mozilla -type f -name prefs.js -o -name '*.css' | tr '\n' ' ')"
   for ONEMOZ in $MOZFILE
   do
    sed -i -e 's%DejaVu Sans%Sans%' $ONEMOZ
   done
  fi
 ;;
esac

[anikin]

Hi don570,

There might be another reason for Chinese fonts not being correctly displayed. Font configuration is seriously broken in Raring and in Woof I reckon. It misses a key ingredient: the "conf.avail" directory. See image below.

Someone on Ubuntu Forum posted an expanded set of etc/fonts directory, you might find it useful for your localization work. It has conf. files for many additional languages. I'm reposting it here.

[futwerk]

a few backgrounds.

[anikin]

I was wondering if the perceived speed of Raring is hardware specific

And I'm wondering if we should even discuss puppy's speed without having any proof of it. I saw your response to aarf's comment on BK blog and have a convenient opportunity of running the test against freshly installed upup Raring-3.9.81. Running in pfix=ram mode, off of an 8GB SD card on an Intel atom n270/945GSE dual SSD eeepc. Done exactly the same way as you described it.

So here's my results:

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Puppy Raring 5.6.94		upup Raring-3.98.1
-------------------				------------------
# time seamonkey				# time seamonkey
real	0m50.227s				real	0m19.392s
user	0m3.567s				user	0m6.250s
sys	0m0.427s					sys	0m0.680s

# time geany					# time geany
real	0m8.837s				real	0m7.431s
user	0m0.890s				user	0m1.940s
sys	0m0.090s					sys	0m0.163s

# time abiword					# time abiword
real	0m12.224s				real	0m28.997s
user	0m2.450s				user	0m6.447s
sys	0m3.637s					sys	0m8.623s

# time ppm						# time ppm
real	0m19.819s				real	0m36.362s
user	0m8.103s				user	0m16.053s
sys	0m2.580s					sys	0m5.367s

# time gnumeric					# time gnumeric
real	0m14.066s				real	0m22.827s
user	0m3.787s				user	0m9.300s
sys	0m1.117s					sys	0m2.290s

# time gparted					# time gparted
real	0m21.217s				real	1m26.260s
user	0m4.050s				user	0m7.147s
sys	0m3.517s					sys	0m7.157s
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What you guys are seeing here?

[mavrothal]

What you guys are seeing here?

Puppy Raring is faster than Upup Raring, but is it faster to Upup Precise (that's what I compared), or Racy or Slacko?

[simargl]

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[anikin]

Here's a breakdown of real/user/sys time command:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_%28Unix%29

[mavrothal]

Here's a breakdown of real/user/sys time command:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_%28Unix%29

One more thing is that 'time' really measures the CPU time that a process and its children consume. Does not account for I/O speed of GPU/X-rendering speed that may affect performance as perceived by the real life user.
I basically shows how well an app and the libraries it depends on perform CPU-wise.

[Sage]

...at the end of the day, it all gets a bit subjective. Personally, I have perceived Precise's latest incarnation to outstrip many Pups, especially Rarin' on a wide range of HW, albeit without your detailed measurements and analyses. Notwithstanding, Rarin' presently has so many other issues for BK to struggle with. I am not prepared to waste time (and dosh) on the industries latest 999-core monstrosities pushed at us in the inexorable cycles to trouser even more of our cash for no apparent gain. It all started when Intel couldn't get the heat out of their processors, particularly as the feature sizes dropped to 45, then 32nm. Now they're all at it. Strange when one considers what Google's Android can achieve on a little ol' ARM v6 & co. with no HSF at all !

[futwerk]

a few backgrounds.

[Jim1911]

I get an improper error when mounting an ntfs partition that causes it to be unable to mount the partition read/write. I had the same problem with the latest precise. So rcrsn51 suggested that I replace the relevant ntfs-3g components with those from a pup that works. It worked, so I tried it with this distribution too. Deleted files ntfs-3g, libntfs-3g.so.84, and libntfs-3g.so84.0.0 and replaced them with slacko 5.5.70 files nfts-3g, libntfs-3g.so.83, and libntfs-3g.so.83.0.0 and it's mounting properly.