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How to compare one browser versus another in your PUPPY
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gcmartin

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PostPosted: Tue 09 Jul 2013, 17:38    Post subject:  How to compare one browser versus another in your PUPPY  

This thread is a request for insights of a tool for Puppy Linux's browser measurement.

On far to many occasions in the past in Puppyland, there have been browser concerns raised to Puppy development and, sometimes, by development. Much of the discussion is along the lines of personal preferences.Sometimes its along the lines of download size, sometimes its about processor use, sometimes about RAM use, sometimes about memory use (yes, RAM and memory are distinct), sometimes about the time to start to the desktop when first used, sometimes ... and so on and so on.

To provide both developers and users a good manner of measurement, we need some way of looking at browsers better than the sometimes emotional methods we've used in the past.

So I ask
  • Can anyone of this community suggest or provide a recommendation of a UTILITY we can use to compare browser operations in any given PUPPY? OR,
  • is there a way to use an existing Puppy utility to get measurement information on browser impact on the system?
  • And, What should the criterion be for the decision process for an OOTB browser solution in a stock-standard PUP (in other words, does measurements weigh in the process of having a browser in PUPs)?
This could have high value in giving impartial insights to browser operations on the 32bit and 64bit distros used in Puppyland.

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PostPosted: Tue 09 Jul 2013, 22:08    Post subject:  

GCM - your posts are usually interesting, so I read this one.

Browsers are also interesting, being (or becoming) close to the meaning of life (i.e. part of the operating system, as defined).

However, your questions are straw-men. They assume problems where none exist; indeed the problems could be opportunities.

You ask: Can anyone of this community suggest or provide a recommendation of a UTILITY we can use to compare browser operations in any given PUPPY?

Probably yes; but ultimately any such utilities will be restrictive, probably give invalid results, and possibly stultify development. The magic bullet theory rarely works.


or is there a way to use an existing Puppy utility to get measurement information on browser impact on the system?

Is "impact on the system" in any way related to "browser operations" in a user-functional sense ? These terms are ambiguous, and probably my understanding of them could be quite different to others?

And, What should the criterion be for the decision process for an OOTB browser solution in a stock-standard PUP (in other words, does measurements weigh in the process of having a browser in PUPs)?

"in other words", probably not, or at least not worth bothering about (those probably invalid measurements). Life is too short to stuff a mushroom.

Surely we have OOTB solutions already for browser choices. And choices may depend on many variables, ultimately coming down to user's choice, which again depends on more variables, including why a user is using Puppy?

More seriously, when google- firefox- opera- change stuff nearly every week, why try and measure something (anything? what? why?) which may change sooner than the weather?

If we give 'em all a go, evolution will sort out the problem?

The criterion/criteria is "does it work?, for this user?, at this time?, (on whatever Puppy she is using, on whatever machine/device).

I am using Opera - it must be Thursday Laughing

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Aug 2013, 01:30    Post subject: Keep on old browsers versions !  

Keep on old browsers versions ! If your old version runs well, keep it !
I don't understand why Firefox is issuing so many updates. Firefox is used on Windows. There perhaps is the explanation, for security reasons.
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